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Hi,
Need advice from experts/great scorers.
I took gmat prep practice test 1 yesterday after about 3 months of self study and scored abysmal 580.
I have completed MH verbal (verbal thrice) and quant books, Kaplan Gmat prep plus, Powerscore CR bible nd few downloaded questions from gmat club
Verbal
During the end of my preparation i was able to solve SC and CR question bank of 700-800 level questions (from gmat club download section) with accuracy between 70-80% with timing between 2-3 mins for CR and between 1.5-2 mins for SC. I only practiced RC questions from MH RC book i.e. 9-10 passages in total with accuracy of about 65%
Quant
I was able to solve MH and Kaplan questions with about 80% accuracy and felt comfortable in quant but never timed quant
Following are the facts from my practice test result :
1. 580, Q 42, V 27
2. Verbal - had to guess 10-12 questions at the end reading hastily as timing left per questions was almost 1 min or less
3. Quant - had to guess 10 questions at the end as time left per question was 1 or less than 1 min
My analysis
1. On verbal i got 3 consecutive passages in the beginning itself i.e 11 questions and i got 10 right out of 11 but i dint check the time and by the time i got on to SC questions time left was less and i was hastily marking choices. SC in which i tght i m getting strong in practice were worst performed
2. Quant : may be lack of practice and lack of timed practice due to overconfidence
3. Changeover from 1 question to another was taking so long as i could read the whole question (without options) again
Above was my analysis. I may be wrong
Request an analysis from experts and advise for changes in study strategy from here on
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Need advice from experts/great scorers.
I took gmat prep practice test 1 yesterday after about 3 months of self study and scored abysmal 580.
I have completed MH verbal (verbal thrice) and quant books, Kaplan Gmat prep plus, Powerscore CR bible nd few downloaded questions from gmat club
Verbal
During the end of my preparation i was able to solve SC and CR question bank of 700-800 level questions (from gmat club download section) with accuracy between 70-80% with timing between 2-3 mins for CR and between 1.5-2 mins for SC. I only practiced RC questions from MH RC book i.e. 9-10 passages in total with accuracy of about 65%
Quant
I was able to solve MH and Kaplan questions with about 80% accuracy and felt comfortable in quant but never timed quant
Following are the facts from my practice test result :
1. 580, Q 42, V 27
2. Verbal - had to guess 10-12 questions at the end reading hastily as timing left per questions was almost 1 min or less
3. Quant - had to guess 10 questions at the end as time left per question was 1 or less than 1 min
My analysis
1. On verbal i got 3 consecutive passages in the beginning itself i.e 11 questions and i got 10 right out of 11 but i dint check the time and by the time i got on to SC questions time left was less and i was hastily marking choices. SC in which i tght i m getting strong in practice were worst performed
2. Quant : may be lack of practice and lack of timed practice due to overconfidence
3. Changeover from 1 question to another was taking so long as i could read the whole question (without options) again
Above was my analysis. I may be wrong
Request an analysis from experts and advise for changes in study strategy from here on
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27 Sep 2021, 05:57
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On verbal i got 3 consecutive passages in the beginning itself i.e 11 questions and i got 10 right out of 11 but i dint check the time and by the time i got on to SC questions time left was less and i was hastily marking choices. SC in which i tght i m getting strong in practice were worst performed
If your fundamentals are solid working on Solving Approach can be helpful. There's a short course I tutor based on it which is one of my most popular but you can also work on it by yourself, too. If you really like taking notes during RC, learning some shorthand (even if it only makes sense to you) may be helpful on a time front.
5 Verbal tips - https://www.gmatknight.com/post/5-verbal-tips-from-a-gmat-tutor
If your fundamentals are solid working on Solving Approach can be helpful. There's a short course I tutor based on it which is one of my most popular but you can also work on it by yourself, too. If you really like taking notes during RC, learning some shorthand (even if it only makes sense to you) may be helpful on a time front.
5 Verbal tips - https://www.gmatknight.com/post/5-verbal-tips-from-a-gmat-tutor
27 Sep 2021, 06:47
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It's hard to tell from the test score what your "true level" is in either V or Q, because your pacing will have had a dramatic effect on your score. It's good to discover that early, and the good news is you can improve pacing a lot, especially in Quant. You might be experiencing pacing issues for one of two reasons (or a combination of the two) --
• you might be investing far too much time in certain individual questions during the test, leaving you too little time to finish
• you might generally be using slow methods to solve GMAT questions
The first issue above is one you can improve at with test-taking practice. Almost no matter what your level, adaptive tests will get harder and harder until the questions are too hard for you. You're not even supposed to get those extremely hard questions right, and if you get them wrong, that barely hurts your score. What will hurt, however, is investing a lot of time in those questions. So if this might be the issue, on your next diagnostic, I'd suggest you try to move on much more quickly from Quant questions when you don't quickly see a path to a solution. If after about a minute, you aren't sure how to get to an answer, quickly evaluate any fallback strategies (estimation, say), and then move on, saving your time for situations where you can tell a time investment will be rewarded.
If instead you think the second issue might be relevant, then you may need to learn different ways to approach GMAT math questions. My higher-level GMAT math books teach faster methods than any prep company materials teach, and if you might be interested in buying any of those, feel free to contact me at the email address in my signature.
But for now, I wouldn't suggest taking another diagnostic test immediately. Instead, I'd move on to timed practice, using official questions, so you can diagnose your timing issues. If you find you're solving most questions reasonably quickly, then you're probably experiencing pacing issues only because you need to be more disciplined about moving on from difficult questions mid-test. If instead you're spending 3+ minutes to solve many questions, then you probably need to find ways to speed up in general. Keep in mind that a 4+ minute solution to a GMAT question isn't really a solution at all, because you're actually hurting your score if you spend that long on a question, unless you know you can spare the time.
Verbal pacing is a trickier issue, and it would be best to seek advice from a Verbal specialist about it (I'm a high-level Quant specialist). Good luck!
• you might be investing far too much time in certain individual questions during the test, leaving you too little time to finish
• you might generally be using slow methods to solve GMAT questions
The first issue above is one you can improve at with test-taking practice. Almost no matter what your level, adaptive tests will get harder and harder until the questions are too hard for you. You're not even supposed to get those extremely hard questions right, and if you get them wrong, that barely hurts your score. What will hurt, however, is investing a lot of time in those questions. So if this might be the issue, on your next diagnostic, I'd suggest you try to move on much more quickly from Quant questions when you don't quickly see a path to a solution. If after about a minute, you aren't sure how to get to an answer, quickly evaluate any fallback strategies (estimation, say), and then move on, saving your time for situations where you can tell a time investment will be rewarded.
If instead you think the second issue might be relevant, then you may need to learn different ways to approach GMAT math questions. My higher-level GMAT math books teach faster methods than any prep company materials teach, and if you might be interested in buying any of those, feel free to contact me at the email address in my signature.
But for now, I wouldn't suggest taking another diagnostic test immediately. Instead, I'd move on to timed practice, using official questions, so you can diagnose your timing issues. If you find you're solving most questions reasonably quickly, then you're probably experiencing pacing issues only because you need to be more disciplined about moving on from difficult questions mid-test. If instead you're spending 3+ minutes to solve many questions, then you probably need to find ways to speed up in general. Keep in mind that a 4+ minute solution to a GMAT question isn't really a solution at all, because you're actually hurting your score if you spend that long on a question, unless you know you can spare the time.
Verbal pacing is a trickier issue, and it would be best to seek advice from a Verbal specialist about it (I'm a high-level Quant specialist). Good luck!
27 Sep 2021, 08:33
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Thanks a lot for the insight...i will gauge my progress for a week and let you know in case i am facing timing issue due to slower methods.
In that case i would connect wih you for the book.
In case i am facing pacing issue due to 1st reason mentioned by you. Should i go for 2nd diagnostic test after a week or still i should wait for more time and practice again
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In that case i would connect wih you for the book.
In case i am facing pacing issue due to 1st reason mentioned by you. Should i go for 2nd diagnostic test after a week or still i should wait for more time and practice again
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