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Thank you, yashbabu! So glad to hear that it's helpful!
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Great post (like always :)) GMAT Ninja.
Your posts always clear doubts.

I need your help though. I have been trying to get answers to some specific SC rules and searched various sites and videos on youtube but still I am confused and lack understanding on those rules.

Is it possible, if I pm you the doubts and you provide your understanding on them. Please let me know.

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Great post (like always ) GMAT Ninja.
Your posts always clear doubts.

I need your help though. I have been trying to get answers to some specific SC rules and searched various sites and videos on youtube but still I am confused and lack understanding on those rules.

Is it possible, if I pm you the doubts and you provide your understanding on them. Please let me know.

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Thank you for the kind words, Shiv2016! I'll be honest: I get absolutely buried in PMs and have zero hope of responding to all of them -- and in the spirit of the GMAT Club community, public discussions are always better. So could I trouble you to start a thread (or multiple threads) with your questions? And then tag me in it, and I'll do my best to respond there.

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If you’re applying the most basic form of the “which” rule, you’d conclude that “which” is trying to modify “Susan Huntington Dickinson”, right? And you’d say that this sentence is incorrect – but it turns out that it isn’t. Check out the full discussion here: https://gmatclub.com/forum/emily-dickin ... 10142.html
The inmates of Arizona state prison who are selected by the state forest department to work as wilderness firefighters eat in the same cafeterias, sleep in the same campsites, and wear the same uniforms as their professional counterparts do, defying the rigid relationship barriers enforced inside prison walls.
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Do we need the pronoun "who" in the above sentence.
I believe that without the pronoun "who" the sentence "The inmates of Arizona state prison are selected by the state forest department" works fine, since "of Arizona state prison" is a prep. phrase.
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GMATNinja, the oversimplification of SC in three broad categories is incredible
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Thank you so much GMATNinja.

This post comes in very handy even for people who have already spent some time studying SC.

I think you are the Bunuel of the verbal section! :)
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I think you are the Bunuel of the verbal section! :)
I have a really, really long way to go! :)
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Thank you! Found this very helpful, SC is my biggest area to improve :)
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This is really helpful. Although mine is not a 760 to 780 aspiration, it is about 700ish in mocks to 750ish on the GMAT. Such info shall really help. Thank you once more!
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If any of you have favorite examples of really tough, meaning-based OFFICIAL SC questions, post ‘em below. Would love to hear which ones have helped you get inside the GMAT’s head. :-D

I liked this question and your explanation as well. Thanks for all your efforts, means a lot :)

https://gmatclub.com/forum/heirloom-tom ... 75868.html
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GMATNinja GMATNinjaTwo, have you noticed the change in the SC questions, after the recent site upgrade, i feel i see the difficulty level of question has gone up drastically -- i started with V33 (i used to skip all RCs n get most of SC /CR correct) -- n now i dont understand what i see [panicking a l'll :cry: ]
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GMATNinja GMATNinjaTwo, have you noticed the change in the SC questions, after the recent site upgrade, i feel i see the difficulty level of question has gone up drastically -- i started with V33 (i used to skip all RCs n get most of SC /CR correct) -- n now i dont understand what i see [panicking a l'll :cry: ]
Sorry, but the SC questions definitely haven’t undergone any major changes at all lately. I can criticize the GMAT in all sorts of ways, but it’s a very carefully standardized test, and scores from this month need to be directly comparable to scores from, say, four years ago. So the test’s creators definitely do NOT make major changes to the structure of SC questions – or any other type of question – without very clearly warning us first.

So if you’re saying that the actual GMAT exam is getting harder, I’m afraid that the perceived change has something to do with your own mindset (maybe some anxiety?), and not any changes to the exam itself. Sorry for the bad news!

And for whatever it’s worth, skipping all of the RCs does not sound like a good strategy at all, unless you’re going to be happy with something like a 30V. Inevitably, you’ll miss some very easy RC questions with that approach, and on an adaptive test, if you miss easy questions, you’ll have a hard time getting even a slightly above-average score. There’s no magic bullet for improving speed and accuracy on RC, but you might want to start with this article or maybe this video.

I hope this helps a bit!
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I wrote this for somebody on our SC "ask me anything" thread, and thought that I should repost it here, in case it's of interest to anybody who passes through this thread:

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Around 10% of the GMAT test takers score V40+ and about 1% score V45+. That could be a major boost for someone's total GMAT score. For Quant we can practice and practice until we eventually see so many problems that on the exam we immediately recognize what is being asked. The Verbal Reasoning is a different animal, with less practice questions available (Gmatninja recommends only OG questions). What are some key things that you notice candidates that score above V45 do? What are V40-42 candidates are not doing enough of?

Personally, I know that for SC I have been not reading for meaning enough. This is something that I have been working on.

Appreciate your insights.

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Your question is a really good one, and also a really tricky one.

On one hand, there isn't necessarily a huge difference between a V42 and a V45 -- that's just a few questions, so there's some luck involved once you're already that high on the score scale. It's actually one of the things that drives me nuts about MBA admissions: the difference between a 42V and a 45V is very often the difference between rejection and admission to top MBA programs, but those three points don't mean much in terms of your actual skill. Somebody with 45V-level skills could score a 42V just because of bad luck, and somebody with 42V-level skills might score a 45V because of good luck. :idontknow:

So that's a long-winded way of saying that the GMAT arms race is out of control, and nobody should care AT ALL about the difference between a 40-42V and a 45V. But in reality... yeah, a lot of test-takers need a 45V to accomplish their MBA goals. It stinks, but that's the world we live in now.

Rant over. On to your question, finally!

I do think that 45V scorers are fundamentally different from 40-42V scorers in one key way: the high-scorers are generally more precise readers. That's not a sexy answer, but it's definitely the dominant factor.

When I use the term "precise reader", I mean the difference between getting the general meaning of a passage (or paragraph, or sentence, or phrase), and grasping the EXACT meaning. Somebody who is in the 40-42V range will pretty much always understand the essence of an RC/CR passage or an SC sentence, but they won't always pick up on EVERY little nuance of the passage or sentence.

For example, on a really hard SC question, the difference between the right and wrong answer is usually just some subtle distinction of meaning (more on that in this article and this video). The same is true on RC and CR: once you're above a 40V, you probably always understand the essence of the passage, but missing or misinterpreting a tiny tweak of language can cause you to miss a few of the tougher questions.

I know: that's not exciting. And there's no real formula for improvement from 40-42V to 45V, other than getting exposure to good, hard questions, and trying to focus more intensely on those differences in meaning. LSATs are a nice tool if you're trying to break through to a super-elite score, but they aren't magical, either.

I hope this helps a bit!
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GMATNinja. CAn you also share similar strategies for CR?
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GMATNinja. CAn you also share similar strategies for CR?
You're looking for strategies for going from "great" to "incredible" on CR? Unfortunately, there's no particular test-prep method that will increase your CR skills from, say, the 90th percentile to the 99th percentile.

That's exactly the point I was making in my most recent post: to make that type of leap on CR and RC, you basically need to learn to be incredibly precise in your reading, and that's not something that a test-prep instructor can really teach you to do. Sure, there are basic principles that always apply (these, for example), but if you're able to get your CR to the 90th percentile, you've probably mastered those basic principles, and you've probably mastered the fundamental logic of CR. Those last ~10 percentile points mostly just come from mind-blowingly precise reading skills, and there's no shortcut or gimmick that can help somebody develop those.

It's not sexy, but that's the reality for the vast majority of test-takers.

I hope this helps a bit!
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Thanks GMATNinja for this amazing post!

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Thanks GMATNinja for this amazing post!

P.S special Kudos for the Uzbek horse meat salad! ;)
Thank you so much! And I'm glad that somebody else here can appreciate a delicious naryn salad with kazy. Most people think I'm just making things up. :)
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