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Hey guys, I would like to take the GMAT by the end of this year (around October / Mid November). The problem is that I am just overwhelmed by all the materials and don't really know how to approach it. My English is solid but still struggle to understand some of the texts since they are pretty long and often about unknown topics (universe or whatever). My math skills are bad to be quite honest. Having studied finance, I was expecting a good score, but I hardly remember the algebra and geometry stuff from High School. I need at least 650 to get into the university that I am aiming for. My preparation period will start at the end of June and would last as long as it takes me to get there. Has anybody any recommendations how to start and where? What books, online prep courses or tutors can you recommend me? Has anybody ever felt lost and still managed to get over 650 (without being a genius)? I won't quit that’s for sure, but I want to make sure to invest my time wisely. I am currently in my last semester and busy until June, therefore I am going to read novels, the economist and watch here and there some YouTube videos about math (while taking notes in the train). I just want to make sure that I can get there and other people managed to get there, despite all the obstacles. I highly appreciate your help!
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Hello PizzaParker ... welcome to the community.

For RC I would use of the link below to make a habbit to do atleast 2 RC each day and going through the discussions therein.
https://gmatclub.com/forum/project-rc-b ... l#p2110839
https://gmatclub.com/forum/new-project- ... 87783.html
**Donot forget to thank workout & SajjadAhmad. :)

For Quant :
1. Use GMAT Club pdf (free !! :) )to refresh and/or learn the concepts tested in the exam.
2. Start practicing 500 level Qs at the links below, and once I reach 90% accuracy I would move to 600 level.
3. Similarly at 600 level I would strive for 80-85% accuracy and then move to 700 level.
4. And then continue with 700 level ..... more the merrier !!
5. Finally use GMAT Club Q-Tests if you are targetting Q48++ :)


DS : https://gmatclub.com/forum/ds-question- ... 28728.html
PS : https://gmatclub.com/forum/gmat-ps-ques ... 27957.html

According to your target timeline ...... you have time at your side.

All the best !!
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Hey guys, I would like to take the GMAT by the end of this year (around October / Mid November). The problem is that I am just overwhelmed by all the materials and don't really know how to approach it. My English is solid but still struggle to understand some of the texts since they are pretty long and often about unknown topics (universe or whatever). My math skills are bad to be quite honest. Having studied finance, I was expecting a good score, but I hardly remember the algebra and geometry stuff from High School. I need at least 650 to get into the university that I am aiming for. My preparation period will start at the end of June and would last as long as it takes me to get there. Has anybody any recommendations how to start and where? What books, online prep courses or tutors can you recommend me? Has anybody ever felt lost and still managed to get over 650 (without being a genius)? I won't quit that’s for sure, but I want to make sure to invest my time wisely. I am currently in my last semester and busy until June, therefore I am going to read novels, the economist and watch here and there some YouTube videos about math (while taking notes in the train). I just want to make sure that I can get there and other people managed to get there, despite all the obstacles. I highly appreciate your help!


You do have enough time to prepare for the GMAT. Until June, which is when you intend to start your GMAT preparation, spend 30-60 minutes everyday on https://www.khanacademy.org/ . By the time you're ready to begin your GMAT preparation you'd have spent close to 100 hours strengthening your Math fundamentals. Remember, there is no magic pill to do well in the GMAT Quant section - your comfort level with numbers and the various ways in which they can be represented/manipulated will determine your quant score. And for that you'll have to put your head down and practice, practice and practice. No expensive online course will be able to help you if you're unwilling to put in the effort.

As far as the study material for the GMAT is concerned, there is a ton of information on those on this very forum. A good online course along with the OG should be enough to reach your target score.
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Hi PizzaParker,

Planning now - far in advance of when you plan to begin studying - is a smart choice. Since the GMAT is a big 'critical thinking test', you do NOT need to be a genius to score at a high level. However, you do need to commit to learning the content, Tactics and patterns of the Exam - and then you have to train to properly do the necessary work required to answer the various question types.

For free math practice and help, I recommend that you set up an account at Khan Academy (www.khanacademy.org). The site is completely free and makes the learning a bit more fun and 'game-like' (as opposed to the dry academic approach taken by most books). While the site is vast, you should limit your studies to basic Arithmetic, Algebra and Geometry. If you can spend a little time over the next few months re-building those skills, then you'll be in better shape to start your GMAT studies.

When you formally begin your GMAT studies, it would be a good idea to take an initial FULL-LENGTH practice CAT Test; you can take 2 for free at www.mba.com (and they come with some additional practice materials). If you want to do a little studying first, so that you can familiarize yourself with the basic content and question types, then that's okay - but you shouldn't wait too long to take that initial CAT. That score will give us a good sense of your natural strengths and weaknesses and will help provide a basis for comparison as you continue to study. A FULL CAT takes about 3.5 hours to complete, so make sure that you've set aside enough time to take it in one sitting. Once you have those scores, you should report back here (or you can PM or email me directly) and we can come up with a study plan.

From your post, it's not clear whether you are applying to just one School or multiple Programs:

1) When are you planning to apply to Business School?
2) What Schools are you planning to apply to?

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Hello guys, thank you for replying in such a short time and giving me all those valuable inputs. I am really determined to get there and have no problem to stand through several months of continuing learning. This is kind of my last chance to get into a good university since my GPA is not extremely good. I am planning on applying at the end of December 2019 or worst-case March 2020. So far, those universities seem interesting to me: LMU, WU Wien, ESADE/IE/EADA, St Andrews, Manchester, Glasgow, Strathclyde, Bocconi University or SSE. Everything stands or falls with my GMAT. I get back to you in June. Thank you so much for everything it’s very encouraging to see that kind of support!
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Start off studying sort of "on-the-side" -- then once you commit to kicking things into high-gear -- then it's nothing but studying. Live, breath, and sleep the GMAT for full entire days. And then rest -- and then go at it again - then rest. Then review - and kickass on the exam.

http://www.gmatpill.com/gmat-practice-t ... study-plan

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We also recommend a "Divide and Conquer" approach first.

That is - focus on specific sections - like Sentence Correction. Dedicate an entire day - heck, dedicate multiple consecutive days dedicated ONLY to sentence correction.

For example: tomorrow is "Sentence Correction Day" - and don't move on until you feel you've made a significant improvement and have results to show.

If you operate with that kind of work ethic - and apply that process to RC, RC, PS, DS, etc. -- then you will have individually made good progress in each section.

Then from there, it's about mixing and matching different verbal and quant questions - just as you would see them on the actual test. So take practice tests to simulate this mental switch between different question types under time pressure.

For practice, we recommend the practice tests from mba.com as was from supplemental resources such as this one from GMAT Pill:
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New post 22 Feb 2019, 10:15
Hi PizzaParker,

Welcome to gmatclub!

You can learn more about GMAT study plan here:
The Definitive GMAT Study Plan
Video FAQ's in 2 mins or less

You can read the overview of different textbooks here:
Best GMAT Math Books 2019
Best GMAT Verbal Books

Manhattanprep guides are pretty solid for self prep. They cover the whole syllabus and describe different approaches to solving the problems.

Hope this helps!
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First off, don’t worry that the content on the GMAT currently seems unfamiliar or foreign to you. Trust me, my friend, TONS of GMAT test-takers start out in your shoes and eventually kick the pants off the GMAT. That said, here is some advice you can follow once you get started in June.

Since you’ll be just starting out with the GMAT, you should first familiarize yourself with the GMAT and then take an official GMAT practice exam. Once you take that practice exam, you will get a better sense of your starting point as well as the finish line.

After completing an initial practice test and determining how far you are from your score goal, you will need to devise a solid preparation plan that allows you to learn linearly, such that you can slowly build mastery of one GMAT topic prior to moving on to the next. Within each topic, begin with the foundations and progress toward more advanced concepts. For example, if you are learning about Number Properties, you should develop as much conceptual knowledge about Number Properties as possible. In other words, your goal will be to completely understand properties of factorials, perfect squares, quadratic patterns, LCM, GCF, units digit patterns, divisibility, and remainders, to name a few concepts. After carefully reviewing the conceptual underpinnings of how to answer Number Properties questions, practice by answering 50 or more questions just from Number Properties. When you do dozens of questions of the same type one after the other, you learn just what it takes to get questions of that type correct consistently. If you aren't getting close to 90 percent of questions of a certain type correct, go back and seek to better understand how that type of question works, and then do more questions of that type until you get to around at least 90 percent accuracy in your training. If you get 100 percent of some sets correct, even better. Number Properties is just one example; follow this process for all quant topics.

When you are working on learning to answer questions of a particular type, start off taking your time, and then seek to speed up as you get more comfortable answering questions of that type. As you do such practice, do a thorough analysis of each question that you don't get right. If you got a remainder question wrong, ask yourself why. Did you make a careless mistake? Did you not properly apply the remainder formula? Was there a concept you did not understand in the question? By carefully analyzing your mistakes, you will be able to efficiently fix your weaknesses and in turn improve your GMAT quant skills.

Follow a similar routine for verbal. For example, let’s say you start by learning about Critical Reasoning. Your first goal is to fully master the individual Critical Reasoning topics: Strengthen the Argument, Weaken the Argument, Resolve the Paradox, etc. As you learn about each question type, do focused practice so that you can track your skill in answering each type. If, for example, you get a weakening question wrong, ask yourself why. Did you make a careless mistake? Did you not recognize the specific question type? Were you doing too much analysis in your head? Did you skip over a keyword in an answer choice? You must thoroughly analyze your mistakes and seek to turn weaknesses into strengths by focusing on the question types you dread seeing and the questions you take a long time to answer correctly.

When practicing Reading Comprehension, you need to develop a reading strategy that is both efficient and thorough. Reading too fast and not understanding what you have read are equally as harmful as reading too slow and using up too much time. When attacking Reading Comprehension passages, you must have one clear goal in mind: to understand the context of what you are reading. However, you must do so efficiently, so you need to avoid getting bogged down in the details of each paragraph and instead focus on understanding the main point of each paragraph. That being said, do not fall into the trap of thinking that you can just read the intro and the conclusion and thereby comprehend the main idea of a paragraph. As you read a paragraph, consider how the context of the paragraph relates to previous paragraphs, so you can continue developing your overall understanding of the passage. Furthermore, as you practice, focus on the exact types of questions with which you struggle: Find the Main Idea, Inference, Author’s Tone, etc. As with Critical Reasoning, analyze your incorrect Reading Comprehension answers to better determine why you tend to get a particular question type wrong, and then improve upon your weaknesses. Keep in mind that GMAT Reading Comprehension passages are not meant to be easy to read. So, to better prepare yourself to analyze such passages, read magazines with similar content and style, such as the Economist, Scientific American, and Smithsonian.

Sentence Correction is a bit of a different animal compared to Reading Comprehension and Critical Reasoning. There are three aspects to getting correct answers to GMAT Sentence Correction questions: what you know, such as grammar rules, what you see, such as violations of grammar rules and the logic of sentence structure, and what you do, such as carefully considering each answer choice in the context of the non-underlined portion of the sentence. To drive up your Sentence Correction score, you likely will have to work on all three of those aspects.

Regarding what you know, first and foremost, you MUST know your grammar rules. Let's be clear, though: GMAT Sentence Correction is not just a test of knowledge of grammar rules. The reason for learning grammar rules is so that you can determine what sentences convey and whether sentences are well-constructed. In fact, in many cases, incorrect answers to Sentence Correction questions are grammatically flawless. Thus, often your task is to use your knowledge of grammar rules to determine which answer choice creates the most logical sentence meaning and structure.

This determination of whether sentences are well-constructed and logical is the second aspect of finding correct answers to Sentence Correction questions, what you see. To develop this skill, you probably have to slow way down. You won't develop this skill by spending under two minutes per question. For a while, anyway, you have to spend time with each question, maybe even ten or fifteen minutes on one question sometimes, analyzing every answer choice until you see the details that you have to see in order to choose the correct answer. As you go through the answer choices, consider the meaning conveyed by each version of the sentence. Does the meaning make sense? Even if you can tell what the version is SUPPOSED to convey, does the version really convey that meaning? Is there a verb to go with the subject? Do all pronouns clearly refer to nouns? By slowing way down and looking for these details, you learn to see what you have to see in order to clearly understand which answer to a Sentence Correction question is correct.

There is only one correct answer to any Sentence Correction question, there are clear reasons why that choice is correct and the others are not, and those reasons are not that the correct version simply "sounds right." In fact, the correct version often sounds a little off at first. That correct answers may sound a little off is not surprising. If the correct answer were always the one that sounded right, then most people most of the time would get Sentence Correction questions correct, without really knowing why the wrong answers were wrong and the correct answers were correct. So, you have to go beyond choosing what "sounds right" and learn to clearly see the logical reasons why one choice is better than all of the others.

As for the third aspect of getting Sentence Correction questions correct, what you do, the main thing you have to do is be very careful. You have to make sure that you are truly considering the structures of sentences and the meanings conveyed rather than allowing yourself to be tricked into choosing trap answers that sound right but don't convey logical meanings. You also have to make sure that you put some real energy into finding the correct answers. Finding the correct answer to a Sentence Correction question may take bouncing from choice to choice repeatedly until you start to see the differences between the choices that make all choices wrong except for one. Often, when you first look at the choices, only one or two seem obviously incorrect. Getting the right answers takes a certain work ethic. You have to be determined to see the differences and figure out the precise reasons that one choice is correct.

To improve what you do when you answer Sentence Correction questions, seek to become aware of how you are going about answering them. Are you being careful and looking for logic and details, or are you quickly eliminating choices that sound a little off and then choosing the best of the rest? If you choose an incorrect answer, consider what you did that resulted in your arriving at that answer and what you could do differently in order to arrive at correct answers more consistently. Furthermore, see how many questions you can get correct in a row as you practice. If you break your streak by missing one, consider what you could have done differently to extend your streak.

As with your Critical Reasoning and Reading Comprehension regimens, after learning a particular Sentence Correction topic, engage in focused practice with 30 questions or more that involve that topic. As your skills improve, you will then want to practice with questions that test you on skills from multiple Sentence Correction topics.

In order to follow the path described above, you may consider using an online self-study course, so take a look at the GMAT Club reviews for the best quant and verbal courses. You also may find it helpful to read this article about
how to score a 700+ on the GMAT.

Feel free to reach out with any further questions. Good luck!
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