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If x > 1, what is the value of integer x ?

(1) There are x unique factors of x
(2) The sum of x and any prime number larger than x is odd.

Please explain with the help of examples.

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Thanks Bunuel.

In statement (1), I understand that "x to have x distinct positive factors it must be divisible by EVERY integer from 1 to x, inclusive", but what confuses me is the next line that mentions "x-1." I have understood other numbers that are not divisible. But what is the logic behind "x-1." Well i do understand that in x>1 i can take 1 to the other side which makes x-1. But i am not able to understand this method clearly.

Can you please elaborate more on it.
Statement (2) is fine. I was able to get it.

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Not sure I understand your question here, but we use the fact that x cannot be divisible by x-1 unless x=2 to proof that x can only be 2.
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If x>1, what is the value of integer x?

1) There are x unique factors of x.
2) The sum of x and any prime number larger than x is odd

1) x can be 1 or 2 but as x>1 so x=2 --S

2) according to me statement is saying x is even prime number so x=2-- S


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If x>1, what is the value of integer x?

(1) There are x unique factors of x --> x to have x distinct positive factors it must be divisible by EVERY integer from 1 to x, inclusive but x can not be divisible by x-1 unless x=2, for example 3 is not divisible by 2, 4 is not divisible by 3, etc, but 2 is divisible by 1 (other value of x which has x distinct positive factors (1) is excluded by the stem as x>1). So this statement implies that x=2. Sufficient.

(2) The sum of x and any prime number larger than x is odd --> x+prime=odd, now as x itself is more than 1 then prime more than x cannot be 2 thus it's odd and we have x+odd prime=odd --> x=even, so x could be ANY even number. Not sufficient.

Answer: A.


Need an explanation for statement 2.... the number to be added to x has to be a odd prime...for the result to be odd...but then why cannot x be 2 here.... I agree with the OA...it will be A...but I don't understand why can't x = 2 be one of the possible values....
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GMATD11 wrote:
If x>1, what is the value of integer x?

1) There are x unique factors of x.
2) The sum of x and any prime number larger than x is odd

1) x can be 1 or 2 but as x>1 so x=2 --S

2) according to me statement is saying x is even prime number so x=2-- S


But OA is different


If x>1, what is the value of integer x?

(1) There are x unique factors of x --> x to have x distinct positive factors it must be divisible by EVERY integer from 1 to x, inclusive but x can not be divisible by x-1 unless x=2, for example 3 is not divisible by 2, 4 is not divisible by 3, etc, but 2 is divisible by 1 (other value of x which has x distinct positive factors (1) is excluded by the stem as x>1). So this statement implies that x=2. Sufficient.

(2) The sum of x and any prime number larger than x is odd --> x+prime=odd, now as x itself is more than 1 then prime more than x cannot be 2 thus it's odd and we have x+odd prime=odd --> x=even, so x could be ANY even number. Not sufficient.

Answer: A.


Need an explanation for statement 2.... the number to be added to x has to be a odd prime...for the result to be odd...but then why cannot x be 2 here.... I agree with the OA...it will be A...but I don't understand why can't x = 2 be one of the possible values....


From (2) x can be 2, but it can also be any other even number, for example 4: 4+5=9=odd.

Hope it's clear.
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Thanks Bunuel... I think I might have got confused by the language of the earlier post......Thank you for the clarification
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X > 1, what is x?

(1) if x=2, unique factor is 2
If x=3, unique factor is 2
Moving up the unqie factor count minimum is 2 and only 2 qualifies for the condition
X=2, SUFFICIENT

(2) x + odd = odd
We don't know x yet excep it is x>1.
so if prime is even, x should be odd
If prime is odd, x should be even.
INSUFFICIENT

Answer: A
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Pls answer below points:
1) x to have x distinct positive factors it must be divisible by EVERY integer from 1 to x- Not clear about this statement. As per my understanding factors are those which completely divide the number.So how can factors will be divisible and that too why from all the number b/w 1 to x.
2) What do you understand by 'unique factors'.

Please explain me the strategy to adopt while attempting to comprehend the concepts.

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Hi,
Pls answer below points:
1) x to have x distinct positive factors it must be divisible by EVERY integer from 1 to x- Not clear about this statement. As per my understanding factors are those which completely divide the number.So how can factors will be divisible and that too why from all the number b/w 1 to x.
2) What do you understand by 'unique factors'.

Please explain me the strategy to adopt while attempting to comprehend the concepts.

Regards
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Factor of x is a positive integer which divides x evenly (without a remainder). Notice that each factor of x must be less than or equal to x: the smallest factor of a positive integer is 1 and the greatest factor is that integer itself. For example, the smallest factor of 12 is 1 and the greatest factor of 12 is 12 itself.

Now, x to have x distinct positive factors it must be divisible by EVERY integer from 1 to x: 1, 2, 3, ..., x-1, x --> total of x factors.

As for your second question: unique factors are distinct factors. For example 12 has 6 unique (distinct) factors: 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, and 12.

Hope it's clear.
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I have got your point completely.Thanks for giving your time!
one thing i need to get clarify is Why we are taking X-1 always instead for any series X+1 for consecutive integers is also possible or not?
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I have got your point completely.Thanks for giving your time!
one thing i need to get clarify is Why we are taking X-1 always instead for any series X+1 for consecutive integers is also possible or not?


Not sure understand your question: where are we taking x-1 consecutive integers? Can you please elaborate?
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The unique factors part tricked me.. :(
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kanusha wrote:
If x > 1, what is the value ofinteger x?

(1) There are x unique factors of x
(2) The sum of x and any prime number larger than x is odd.

What i Understood was If an Integer x >1 Should have x unique factors
Ex if the integer is 12 its Unique factors are 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 12

Can any One pls Explain What the statment 1 Mean??

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Hey,

When they say there are x unique factors of x try substituting values for x.
As x> 1 , suppose x= 5 There ARE NOT 5 unique factors of 5. (There are just 2:- 1,5) .Try substituting different numbers, u will realize that the only possible case is when
x=1 and x =2 .[1 has 1 unique factor(1), 2 has 2 unique factors (1,2)]
Question stem says that x > 1 , thus x= 2. Sufficient.

Statement 2 is insufficient as x could be 2/4/6 etc.

Answer :-A
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anu1706 wrote:
I have got your point completely.Thanks for giving your time!
one thing i need to get clarify is Why we are taking X-1 always instead for any series X+1 for consecutive integers is also possible or not?


Not sure understand your question: where are we taking x-1 consecutive integers? Can you please elaborate?



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Can someone please check my approach here?

The approach I tried this one is as follows -

Since it is given that x>1 and value of x has to be an integer.

St. A - the least possible unique number (between 0 to 9) from 2 unique factors will be 6 - (2,3)
Sufficient

St. B - (x + prime no.) > odd no. x
It can be (3+2) > 3
or can be (5+2) > 5.
Thus Insufficient.

Answer - A
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kanusha wrote:
If x > 1, what is the value ofinteger x?

(1) There are x unique factors of x
(2) The sum of x and any prime number larger than x is odd.

What i Understood was If an Integer x >1 Should have x unique factors
Ex if the integer is 12 its Unique factors are 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 12

Can any One pls Explain What the statment 1 Mean??

Pls reply



Hey,

When they say there are x unique factors of x try substituting values for x.
As x> 1 , suppose x= 5 There ARE NOT 5 unique factors of 5. (There are just 2:- 1,5) .Try substituting different numbers, u will realize that the only possible case is when
x=1 and x =2 .[1 has 1 unique factor(1), 2 has 2 unique factors (1,2)]
Question stem says that x > 1 , thus x= 2. Sufficient.

Statement 2 is insufficient as x could be 2/4/6 etc.

Answer :-A
Hope it helps.



Hello everyone/ Bunuel

Can anyone please explain statement 1 and correct my understanding here: when I try substituting values of x say 9 then x = (1,3,9), since the questions stem says that x>1, thus unique factor is 2. But when we have larger numbers say x=20 then x= (1,2,4,5,10,20) here the unique factors are 5 (when x>1). Hence how can x be 2 as per the above answers. Kindly explain, if I have any gap in my understanding.

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If x is an integer greater than 1, what is the value of x?

I) there are x unique factors of x
II) the sum of x and all prime factors greater than x is Odd

Please explain the answer to me.

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Statement 1

I) there are x unique factors of x

Only the prime number '2' has two factors 1, and 2. Hence, the statement is sufficient to answer the question. We can eliminate B, C, and E.

Statement 2

II) the sum of x and all prime factors greater than x is Odd

All prime numbers except 2 are odd and hence the sum of all prime factors greater than 2 should be even.

From the question premise, we know that x is an integer greater than 1, so the minimum value of x can be 2.

Let's assume x = 2, so 2 + even = even. Therefore x cannot be 2, or for that matter any even integer. It can however be any odd integer.

Say
x = 3 → 3 + (sum of all prime factors greater than 3) = 3 + even = odd
x = 5 → 5 + (sum of all prime factors greater than 5) = 5 + even = odd

As we do not have a unique value for x, the statement alone is not sufficient.

Option A


P.S. = IMO the verbiage of the question (esp St2) isn't great. We could have referred to them as prime integers instead of prime factors.

Edit: I see Statement 2 has been edited. A revised analysis of the Statement is below -


Statement 2

(2) The sum of x and any prime number larger than x is odd

All prime numbers except 2 are odd.

From the question premise, we know that x is an integer greater than 1, so the minimum value of x can be 2.

Let's assume x = 2, so 2 + (any prime number larger than 2) = 2 + odd = odd. Hence, x = 2 satisfies the criteria. However, x can be any even integer.

Say
x = 4 → 4 + (any prime number larger than 4) = 4 + odd = odd

As we do not have a unique value for x, the statement alone is not sufficient.
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