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Mountain County and Sunrise County are two comparable counties, with similar numbers of registered voters. Both are in the same region of the state. In both counties, about 60% of the registered voters are registered Republicans, and almost all others are registered Democrats. In 2005, Republican candidate Alf Landon ran for supervisor of Mountain County, and Republican candidate Thomas Dewey ran for supervisor of Sunrise County. Both took similar stands on issues, and both ran against conservative Democratic candidates in the general county-wide election, and none of these four candidates was an incumbent at the time of this election. The Republican Congressman representing Sunrise County endorsed Mr. Dewey, but the Republican Congressman representing Mountain County refrained from endorsing Mr. Landon. Mr. Dewey won his election, but Mr. Landon lost his election. Clearly, the endorsement positions of the respective Congressmen were the deciding factors in these elections.

In evaluating the argument, it would be most useful to know which of the following?
(A) How these two counties have voted in US Congressional and US Presidential elections over the past decade
(B) What stands Mr. Landon and Mr. Dewey took on issues considered most important by registered Democrat voters
(C) How well Congressmen, involved primarily in national politics, are informed of the details of local politics within a single county.
(D) How typical it has been throughout the state, in the past decade, for a Congressman to endorse a county supervisor candidate running in his Congressional district.
(E) How many voters in each of these two counties were aware of their respective Congressman's endorsement positions.

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06 Dec 2012, 16:50
Clearly E

This time I do not like too much the question: unrealistic for the gmat, too long and full of filler in my opinion.

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06 Dec 2012, 17:14
E is clearly the right answer. Too long passage. Just quickly go through the words to save time.
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24 Aug 2014, 19:19
great question! very suitable for LSAT
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12 Dec 2015, 11:11
How can number of informed voters can help to evalute argument without any info about total number of voters?
Let's say we know that number of informed voters is 100. If total number of voters is also 100 then, yeah, it makes sense, endorsement positions affect votes. But if the total number is 1 million, we hardly can say that endosments affect anything.
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How can number of informed voters can help to evalute argument without any info about total number of voters?
Let's say we know that number of informed voters is 100. If total number of voters is also 100 then, yeah, it makes sense, endorsement positions affect votes. But if the total number is 1 million, we hardly can say that endosments affect anything.

Dear alexeykaplin,
I'm happy to respond. What you are asking is something extremely subtle, and hard to address. On the one hand, it is very important to read the text of the GMAT CR extremely carefully, because each word matters. On the other hand, there is such a thing as being too literal---that will get you in BIG trouble, both on the GMAT and in the real business world. BTW, being too literal is also a total trainwreck in friendships and romantic relationships! It's a big problem!

Here is the OA.
(E) How many voters in each of these two counties were aware of their respective Congressman's endorsement positions.
Suppose we asked someone that as a question. If the person we asked gave the hyper-literal answer, "86 in Mountain County and 154 in Sunrise county," that would be a grossly incomplete answer. The person who gave that answer would either be not particularly bright or would be trolling us. That would not be an intelligent answer in all good faith. A good faith answer would give us a sense of the proportions or percents in each county, because that's truly informative, whereas it's patently obvious that the numbers in the incomplete answer, by themselves, are meaningless.

When we have these "evaluation the argument" problems, the five answer choices are questions. For the purposes of evaluating the argument, we have to assume that if we were to ask any of these answer choices as questions, we would get intelligent answers in good faith. In other words, we would assume that we would be asking well informed people who would be disposed to help us understand that particular point. We are not asking people who jesuitically try to keep us in the dark by answering us with a meaningless half-truth.

This is as much an emotional distinction as a cognitive distinction. Does this make sense?
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28 Nov 2017, 16:31
In summary, the passage about 2 candidates running for a position; the two of them have everything same except that one has endorsement and one does not.

A and B are out of scope for sure.
C is about how Congressmen are aware of local political, so C is out of scope.
D is about how typical it is for Congressmen to make an endorsement to a candidate. D looks like a strengthener.
E is the connection between voters and endorsement of the Congressmen.

mikemcgarry,
Nevertheless, E still has one concept that the result of the election is based on voters. This is why I still doubt E is the correct answer. In my country, elections are just a controlled by one party.
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In summary, the passage about 2 candidates running for a position; the two of them have everything same except that one has endorsement and one does not.

A and B are out of scope for sure.
C is about how Congressmen are aware of local political, so C is out of scope.
D is about how typical it is for Congressmen to make an endorsement to a candidate. D looks like a strengthener.
E is the connection between voters and endorsement of the Congressmen.

mikemcgarry,
Nevertheless, E still has one concept that the result of the election is based on voters. This is why I still doubt E is the correct answer. In my country, elections are just a controlled by one party.

Dear chesstitans,

I'm happy to respond.

I would say, insofar as the prompt discusses the actions of voters, it implies that voters are determining this election. The fact that two parties are explicitly mentioned indicates that it's not a one-party situation, and I'm not aware of any system with 2+ major parties that is not democratically determined. I don't know how likely elections might be as a GMAT CR topic. I don't know where you live, my friend, but I would say that it's good to be familiar with the basics of party politics in the US and Western Europe, as the vagaries of these have global ramifications.

Does all this make sense?
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