Last visit was: 23 Apr 2024, 10:19 It is currently 23 Apr 2024, 10:19

Close
GMAT Club Daily Prep
Thank you for using the timer - this advanced tool can estimate your performance and suggest more practice questions. We have subscribed you to Daily Prep Questions via email.

Customized
for You

we will pick new questions that match your level based on your Timer History

Track
Your Progress

every week, we’ll send you an estimated GMAT score based on your performance

Practice
Pays

we will pick new questions that match your level based on your Timer History
Not interested in getting valuable practice questions and articles delivered to your email? No problem, unsubscribe here.
Close
Request Expert Reply
Confirm Cancel
User avatar
Manager
Manager
Joined: 14 Jul 2006
Posts: 175
Own Kudos [?]: 13 [0]
Given Kudos: 0
Send PM
User avatar
Manager
Manager
Joined: 15 Aug 2004
Posts: 152
Own Kudos [?]: 14 [0]
Given Kudos: 0
Send PM
User avatar
Intern
Intern
Joined: 17 Jul 2006
Posts: 18
Own Kudos [?]: 4 [0]
Given Kudos: 0
Send PM
User avatar
Director
Director
Joined: 02 Jun 2006
Posts: 664
Own Kudos [?]: 213 [0]
Given Kudos: 0
Send PM
Re: Probability question [#permalink]
# of ways of selecting 4 from a group of 28 = 28x27x26x25/4x3x2 = 28C4

# of ways of selecting a man from 10 = 10

# of ways of selecting 2 women from 8 = 8x7/2 = 28

# of ways of selecting a child from 10 = 10

Prob = 10x28x10/28C4 = 32/351
User avatar
Manager
Manager
Joined: 15 Aug 2004
Posts: 152
Own Kudos [?]: 14 [0]
Given Kudos: 0
Send PM
Re: Probability question [#permalink]
gmatmathguru wrote:
Yes, without restrictions, total # of outcomes = 28C4.

With restrictions, 1 man to be chosen from 10 men = 10C1

2 women from 8 = 8C2

1 child from 10 = 10C1

The probability = (10C1 * 8C2 * 10C1)/28C4

The problem assumes that you are selecting four and only four from 28.

The problem could have stated that "When selecting 4 people from a group of 10 men, 8 women and 10 children, what is the probability that ..."
this is probably implied from the statement.


-mathguru


Can you please tell me why my method is wrong....

(10/28) * (8/27 * 7/26) * (10/25)
User avatar
Director
Director
Joined: 30 Mar 2006
Posts: 896
Own Kudos [?]: 593 [0]
Given Kudos: 0
Send PM
Re: Probability question [#permalink]
sumitsarkar82 wrote:
gmatmathguru wrote:
Yes, without restrictions, total # of outcomes = 28C4.

With restrictions, 1 man to be chosen from 10 men = 10C1

2 women from 8 = 8C2

1 child from 10 = 10C1

The probability = (10C1 * 8C2 * 10C1)/28C4

The problem assumes that you are selecting four and only four from 28.

The problem could have stated that "When selecting 4 people from a group of 10 men, 8 women and 10 children, what is the probability that ..."
this is probably implied from the statement.


-mathguru


Can you please tell me why my method is wrong....

(10/28) * (8/27 * 7/26) * (10/25)


Use the above method when selecting in order.
User avatar
Intern
Intern
Joined: 17 Jul 2006
Posts: 18
Own Kudos [?]: 4 [0]
Given Kudos: 0
Send PM
Re: Probability question [#permalink]
sumitsarkar82 wrote:
Can you please tell me why my method is wrong....

(10/28) * (8/27 * 7/26) * (10/25)


This answer assumes that you are selecting a Man, two Women and a Child in that order. i.e. MWWC. In other words, you are introducing a restriction that is not in the original problem.

Your answer does not account for additional selections which are possible arrangements of "MWWC" itself. Note that "MWWC" can be arranged in 4!/2! ways = 4*3 = 12 ways.

Note that the difference between the original answer and your answer is just this - 4*3 = 12.

Just by rearranging the terms, your answer can also be expressed as (10C1 * 8C2 * 10C1 / 28C4) * (4*3).

When the order is not important, you just select 1 man from 10, 2 women from 8 and 1 children from 10 and multiply.

Even though it really depends on the problem, a general rule of thumb, the approach you have taken is more appropriate for problems involving a deck of cards or problems involving picking blue/red/black marbles from a bag/box or problems involving picking a blue/red/black sox from a bag/box etc.

-mathguru
User avatar
Manager
Manager
Joined: 15 Aug 2004
Posts: 152
Own Kudos [?]: 14 [0]
Given Kudos: 0
Send PM
Re: Probability question [#permalink]
gmatmathguru wrote:

Even though it really depends on the problem, a general rule of thumb, the approach you have taken is more appropriate for problems involving a deck of cards or problems involving picking blue/red/black marbles from a bag/box or problems involving picking a blue/red/black sox from a bag/box etc.

-mathguru


https://www.gmatclub.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=32488

I framed this question to understand the same... I have a question there, if you could answer that...
User avatar
Intern
Intern
Joined: 23 Jul 2006
Posts: 40
Own Kudos [?]: 4 [0]
Given Kudos: 0
Send PM
Re: Probability question [#permalink]
sumitsarkar82 wrote:
gmatmathguru wrote:
Yes, without restrictions, total # of outcomes = 28C4.

With restrictions, 1 man to be chosen from 10 men = 10C1

2 women from 8 = 8C2

1 child from 10 = 10C1

The probability = (10C1 * 8C2 * 10C1)/28C4

The problem assumes that you are selecting four and only four from 28.

The problem could have stated that "When selecting 4 people from a group of 10 men, 8 women and 10 children, what is the probability that ..."
this is probably implied from the statement.


-mathguru


Can you please tell me why my method is wrong....

(10/28) * (8/27 * 7/26) * (10/25)


I think you are right.....because the question is NOT for the number of combinations that we can get 1 man, 2 women and 1 children from 28 people.....THe question is only the probability of choosing 1 man, 2 women y 1 child from 10 men, 8 women and 10 children....

On the other hand Mathguru is really good....but I think the question is not more than that it is....




.



Archived Topic
Hi there,
This topic has been closed and archived due to inactivity or violation of community quality standards. No more replies are possible here.
Where to now? Join ongoing discussions on thousands of quality questions in our Quantitative Questions Forum
Still interested in this question? Check out the "Best Topics" block above for a better discussion on this exact question, as well as several more related questions.
Thank you for understanding, and happy exploring!
GMAT Club Bot
Re: Probability question [#permalink]
Moderator:
Senior Moderator - Masters Forum
3137 posts

Powered by phpBB © phpBB Group | Emoji artwork provided by EmojiOne