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Hi stwo4841 ,

You can go through some free video lessons from the manhattan prep youtube channel:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJfvkth69Us&t=268s

''All GMAT Ninja LIVE YouTube videos by topic'' is a gift for the people aspiring verbal score improvement:
https://gmatclub.com/forum/all-gmat-nin ... l#p2396353

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Hi stwo4841,

I'm happy to help. Can you please paste in a screenshot of your TTP analytics page, so I can see your course stats as well as your course progress? Once I have that information, I can provide some advice.
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Hi stwo4841,

I'm happy to help. Can you please paste in a screenshot of your TTP analytics page, so I can see your course stats as well as your course progress? Once I have that information, I can provide some advice.

Hi Scott,

Thank you for taking the time to reply to me!

I have private messaged you the page as I can't seem to actually post it in the forum. I do want to note that I retook some of the harder chapter tests that I personally struggled with prior to going into the practice exam phase just to make sure I understood them. I think that might skew the analytics a bit.
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Hi stwo4841,

I'm sorry to hear that Test Day did not turn out better - but a 690/Q49 is still a fantastic overall performance. If you were rejected last year with a similar Score, then there might be some broader issues with your overall profile (and possibly how you 'market yourself' in your applications). As such, you would likely find it beneficial to speak with an Admissions Expert about your overall profile and plans. Those Experts should be able to answer your Admissions questions and help define the specific areas of your profile that could use some improvement. There's a Forum full of those Experts here:

https://gmatclub.com/forum/ask-admissio ... tants-124/

There's certainly no harm in retaking the GMAT, but before we discuss how you might best proceed with your studies, it would help if you could provide a bit more information on how you've been studying and your goals:

Studies:
1) On what dates did you take EACH of your Official GMATs and how did you score on EACH (including the Quant and Verbal Scaled Scores for each)?
2) How long did you study for each attempt? For this 4th attempt, how many hours did you typically study each week?
3) What study materials have you used over the course of ALL of your studies? Did you use any other CATs/mocks besides the 6 Official CATs?

Goals:
4) What is your overall goal score?
5) What Schools are you planning to apply (or reapply) to?

Before you can include attachments with your posts/PMs, you need to have at least 5 posts in the forums (right now, you have 3 posts). If you would rather not go through those extra steps at this point, then you can feel free to email me directly (at [email protected]). While the ESR doesn’t provide a lot of information, there are usually a few data points that we can use to define what went wrong on Test Day (and what you should work on to score higher). I'll be happy to analyze your ESR for you.

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Hi stwo4841,

I'm sorry to hear that Test Day did not turn out better - but a 690/Q49 is still a fantastic overall performance. If you were rejected last year with a similar Score, then there might be some broader issues with your overall profile (and possibly how you 'market yourself' in your applications). As such, you would likely find it beneficial to speak with an Admissions Expert about your overall profile and plans. Those Experts should be able to answer your Admissions questions and help define the specific areas of your profile that could use some improvement. There's a Forum full of those Experts here:

There's certainly no harm in retaking the GMAT, but before we discuss how you might best proceed with your studies, it would help if you could provide a bit more information on how you've been studying and your goals:

Studies:
1) On what dates did you take EACH of your Official GMATs and how did you score on EACH (including the Quant and Verbal Scaled Scores for each)?
2) How long did you study for each attempt? For this 4th attempt, how many hours did you typically study each week?
3) What study materials have you used over the course of ALL of your studies? Did you use any other CATs/mocks besides the 6 Official CATs?

Goals:
4) What is your overall goal score?
5) What Schools are you planning to apply (or reapply) to?

Before you can include attachments with your posts/PMs, you need to have at least 5 posts in the forums (right now, you have 3 posts). If you would rather not go through those extra steps at this point, then you can feel free to email me directly (). While the ESR doesn’t provide a lot of information, there are usually a few data points that we can use to define what went wrong on Test Day (and what you should work on to score higher). I'll be happy to analyze your ESR for you.

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Rich,

Thank you very much for taking the time to reply to me.

To answer your questions:
1) I took them either on Wednesday or Saturday starting at 8:30 AM or 9:00 AM. The actual was on a Saturday at 3:00 PM. The benchmarks in chronological order were:
710 (Q48, V40, IR8)
710 (Q47, V41, IR8)
Took some time after these two to really work on stronger critical thinking approaches to both Q and V.
750 (Q49, V44, IR8)
730 (Q49, V41, IR7)
770 (Q50, V47, IR7)
750 (Q49, V42, IR8)
2) For the three attempts, all back in 2020, my study was I think 7 months but very poorly structured. I didn't know how to study back then in retrospect. For this fourth attempt, started in October using TTP, start at around 5:00 AM or 5:30 AM every morning until about 8:00 PM, go to work, come back and maybe do an hour or two more in the evening/afternoon. Weekends start at around 7:00AM-7:30AM and go to around 12:00 PM. Once I finished my learning phase I kind of started winding it down a little to not exhaust myself/reserved a particular weekday and a single weekend day for a practice exam unless I felt I needed more time between practice exams to work on some issues. All were conducted just like a real exam. I did take breaks but didn't have food in between.
3) First time around, just the OG guide and GMAT Ninja's youtube videos. This time around, went through the entire TTP program including Quant and Verbal as suggested by their study guide to the letter along with notecards and the error logged derived from those studies. I did not use any other practice exams but prior to my next exam, I think I'll try the manhatten prep one for free (see the new information section below as to why I chose this one).

Goals:
4) 730-750.
5) Probably the ones I applied to last year (Sloan, Kellogg, HBS). I have tried to focus a little less on this and more on just goal #4 and take it as more of a "think about this as your reward for hitting goal #4 ie. you get to think about your school after you get the score."

Some new information I've started to notice since writing this post.
1) In situations where I am facing brand new questions, I sometimes have a sort of weird anxiety that causes me to forget my process (some sort of fear of the unknown unfamiliarity type situation). This has happened a couple of times on GMAT question of the day so I've spent the past couple days deliberately psyching myself out so I'm in a state of discomfort and then practice brand new problems from a different source so that I can get a little bit more used to focusing/still applying my process while in a state of less clarity/with that anxiety. Also since the manhatten preps are known to be a little bit more challenging, I was going to use them for identifying weak spots and more importantly, to knowingly put myself in a state of anxiety to ensure I still use the process I have developed/practice recentering myself when I'm in a state of discomfort/anxious.
2) I crash energy wise at around 2:00 PM-3:00 PM (I completely forgot about this when I booked my test). That might honestly have seriously affected me for verbal since it felt so off.
3) During Quant, I had a bit of a misread on how many problems I had left. I still answered them all and I did tell myself after "don't worry about Quant. It's verbal time. Focus on that." That may have still affected me though for Verbal.
4) I completely forgot to mention I got food poisoning the Wednesday before my exam. I was fully recovered by Friday (I think). Don't think that would really cause that much of an issue but I thought I would mention it.

I have also emailed you the ESR. Thank you very much for your willingness to review it.
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Hi stwo4841,

I've sent you a PM with an analysis of your ESR and some additional questions.

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I've sent you a PM with an analysis of your ESR and some additional questions.

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Rich,

I appreciate the feedback! Thank you so much!
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Hi stwo4841,

I'm happy to help. Can you please paste in a screenshot of your TTP analytics page, so I can see your course stats as well as your course progress? Once I have that information, I can provide some advice.

Hi Scott,

Thank you for taking the time to reply to me!

I have private messaged you the page as I can't seem to actually post it in the forum. I do want to note that I retook some of the harder chapter tests that I personally struggled with prior to going into the practice exam phase just to make sure I understood them. I think that might skew the analytics a bit.

Got it. We can discuss that further.