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29 Feb 2016, 17:05
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Hi all,
I have recently begun studying for the GMAT and was wondering how effective online courses are in studying. I am aiming for as high a score on the GMAT as possible - definitely 700+ and ideally 750+. I am planning on taking the GMAT in May, which gives me roughly two months on top of the studying that I have already done.
I was looking at both Veritas' and Manhattan GMAT's online / on-demand courses, and both of these cost $950-$999. This seems like a lot of money to drop on an online course! The in-person courses are even more expensive. However, I would be willing to pay for these courses if, say, they could take me from a 720 to a 760+. Is it common to take these types of courses if you want a high score? Could anyone who has taken these courses weigh in on how valuable they feel the courses were? Do they add value above and beyond what I could get through practice books and self-study?
A little more about me for background info:
- Started studying two weeks ago
- Have access to the OG 2016 as well as the Manhattan strategy guide set, and plan to get some more books on top of this (I hear princeton and kaplan are the other common ones?)
- Taken two of the Veritas practice tests. I took the first test completely cold and got a 650. The second test I took after a week of studying and got a 680 (quant improved, verbal stayed the same). I got a deal for $20 for 7 tests, so I have 5 more Veritas tests available to me. Have not taken any of the official gmat practice tests yet.
- Historically I feel like I have done well by self-studying for tests in general, however I am not used to creating / sticking to a structured study plan. I'm 100% willing to try to create a structured plan for the GMAT, and once I have this I believe I can stick to it, but I may need some help on how best to structure this. My previous two weeks of study have mainly consisted of me reviewing my practice tests as well as working through the OG for problems I feel like I had the most trouble on.
I have recently begun studying for the GMAT and was wondering how effective online courses are in studying. I am aiming for as high a score on the GMAT as possible - definitely 700+ and ideally 750+. I am planning on taking the GMAT in May, which gives me roughly two months on top of the studying that I have already done.
I was looking at both Veritas' and Manhattan GMAT's online / on-demand courses, and both of these cost $950-$999. This seems like a lot of money to drop on an online course! The in-person courses are even more expensive. However, I would be willing to pay for these courses if, say, they could take me from a 720 to a 760+. Is it common to take these types of courses if you want a high score? Could anyone who has taken these courses weigh in on how valuable they feel the courses were? Do they add value above and beyond what I could get through practice books and self-study?
A little more about me for background info:
- Started studying two weeks ago
- Have access to the OG 2016 as well as the Manhattan strategy guide set, and plan to get some more books on top of this (I hear princeton and kaplan are the other common ones?)
- Taken two of the Veritas practice tests. I took the first test completely cold and got a 650. The second test I took after a week of studying and got a 680 (quant improved, verbal stayed the same). I got a deal for $20 for 7 tests, so I have 5 more Veritas tests available to me. Have not taken any of the official gmat practice tests yet.
- Historically I feel like I have done well by self-studying for tests in general, however I am not used to creating / sticking to a structured study plan. I'm 100% willing to try to create a structured plan for the GMAT, and once I have this I believe I can stick to it, but I may need some help on how best to structure this. My previous two weeks of study have mainly consisted of me reviewing my practice tests as well as working through the OG for problems I feel like I had the most trouble on.
29 Feb 2016, 17:18
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Welcome to GMAT Club. In person courses tend to be the most effective. A GMAT Club study about a yer ago found that a camera he improvement for an in-person course was 110 points whereas it only 50-60 for on demand. I believe the main reason for that differential is effort put in and the value of a scheduled class.
However these courses are designed to take a predominantly scoring sub 600 or mid-600 and take them 110 points up. I think you can definitely get to mid 700s with any of the courses you are looking at and likely even on demand ones since you have a higher base but numbers are numbers.
You can try doing self study using the MGMAT guides you have. That and OG 2016 all you need. Has been done many times.
BB
However these courses are designed to take a predominantly scoring sub 600 or mid-600 and take them 110 points up. I think you can definitely get to mid 700s with any of the courses you are looking at and likely even on demand ones since you have a higher base but numbers are numbers.
You can try doing self study using the MGMAT guides you have. That and OG 2016 all you need. Has been done many times.
BB
29 Feb 2016, 17:46
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Hi Sent,
Assuming that you took this first CAT in a realistic fashion and scored 650, then you're likely a naturally strong Test Taker (the average score on the Official GMAT hovers around 540-550 most years). GMAC has publicly stated that a Test Taker's Official Score is within +/- 30 points of actual ability - assuming your CATs function in the same ways, that 680 is essentially the same overall performance (+- a few correct answers on specific questions).
Have you had a chance to review both of these CATs in detail? How many questions did you get wrong because...
1) of a silly/little mistake?
2) the question was too hard?
3) you narrowed the answers down to 2 choices and 'guessed wrong'?
4) you were low on time and had to blindly guess?
The above issues are likely what you have to 'fix' to pick up the missing points that you're after. Thankfully, the GMAT is a predictable, standardized Test, so you CAN train to score at a higher level. Whether you need an expensive Course or not is debatable. With a May Test Date, you still have plenty of time to study and improve. I suggest that you study as you see fit for the next 2 weeks, then take one of the Official GMAC CATs (make sure to take the FULL CAT - including the Essay and IR sections). That score result will provide some important information about how well you're studying on you're own.
GMAT assassins aren't born, they're made,
Rich
Assuming that you took this first CAT in a realistic fashion and scored 650, then you're likely a naturally strong Test Taker (the average score on the Official GMAT hovers around 540-550 most years). GMAC has publicly stated that a Test Taker's Official Score is within +/- 30 points of actual ability - assuming your CATs function in the same ways, that 680 is essentially the same overall performance (+- a few correct answers on specific questions).
Have you had a chance to review both of these CATs in detail? How many questions did you get wrong because...
1) of a silly/little mistake?
2) the question was too hard?
3) you narrowed the answers down to 2 choices and 'guessed wrong'?
4) you were low on time and had to blindly guess?
The above issues are likely what you have to 'fix' to pick up the missing points that you're after. Thankfully, the GMAT is a predictable, standardized Test, so you CAN train to score at a higher level. Whether you need an expensive Course or not is debatable. With a May Test Date, you still have plenty of time to study and improve. I suggest that you study as you see fit for the next 2 weeks, then take one of the Official GMAC CATs (make sure to take the FULL CAT - including the Essay and IR sections). That score result will provide some important information about how well you're studying on you're own.
GMAT assassins aren't born, they're made,
Rich
