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1. Which of the following best describes the relationship of the first paragraph to the passage as a whole?

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(A) The first paragraph introduces a general thesis that is elaborated on in detail elsewhere in the passage.
Introduces is mentioned as - It is now possible.. in very first sentence of passage.
General thesis - Digital recording - Elaborated in last para of passage

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(D) The first paragraph presents a dramatic example of the potential of a process that is described elsewhere in the passage.
Rejected because the phrase - dramatic example - sounded too strong to be proven true.

2. According the passage, one of the ways in which analog recording systems differ from digital recording systems is that analog systems

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(B) record the original sound as a continuous waveform

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(C) distort the original sound somewhat
This can be inferred from
In analog recording systems, the original sound is represented as a continuous waveform created by variations in the sound's amplitude over time. When analog playback systems reproduce this waveform, however, they invariably introduce distortions.
Since original sound is represented as a continuous waveform.
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How to eliminate option B from question1 ? I have understood from the above posts that D is the correct answer, but how is B wrong?
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I was confused between B and D in q1. I selected B as I could not find a reason to eliminate B.
I have understood that D is correct but how to eliminate B.
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I was confused between B and D in q1. I selected B as I could not find a reason to eliminate B.
I have understood that D is correct but how to eliminate B.
Please help.

The news in the first paragraph is WHOLLY POSITIVE: the digitization process can be used to remove the extraneous sound...introduced by the old process, so that it is now possible to hear a recording of Caruso's singing that is far superior to any made during his lifetime.

D: The first paragraph presents a concrete instance of a problem.
A problem is a harmful circumstance that has not yet been overcome.
In the first paragraph, a harmful circumstance HAS been overcome: the extraneous sound introduced by the old process has been removed with digitization.
Thus, the purpose of the first paragraph is to present not a problem but a recently discovered SOLUTION.
Eliminate D.
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How to eliminate option B from question1 ? I have understood from the above posts that D is the correct answer, but how is B wrong?
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1. Which of the following best describes the relationship of the first paragraph to the passage as a whole?
(B) The first paragraph presents a concrete instance of a problem that is discussed elsewhere in the passage.
The issue with (B) is that the first paragraph is not presenting a PROBLEM that is discussed later in the passage. Instead, it presents the recent SOLUTION that has been developed to digitize wax-cylinder recordings.

Sure, the second paragraph discusses some of the problems with analog systems. But we’re asked about the relationship of the first paragraph to the passage as a whole. And the passage as a whole is interested in the solutions presented by digital recordings, not the problems of analog recordings.

For that reason, we can eliminate (B).

I hope that helps!
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Question 3

Why (C) is incorrect?
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Dear Expert,

Question 3

Why (C) is incorrect?

Question 3 is about the numbers that represent sound in a digital system.

The only area of the passage that says anything about playback being modified from the original is the second paragraph—but that part is about analog systems, not digital systems.

Moreover, the passage says that playback in a digital system merely "reads" numbers—a wording that implies that NO modification occurs at this process. (Consider what "read-only" means for computer files in general.)
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Hi experts GMATNinja KarishmaB

In question-1, can we reject option C on the basis of reasoning that there was no comparison (favorable or unfavorable) between the traditional process (analog recording) with the newer process (digital recording) at the first place in para-1, it only talked about how the problem of "noise" introduced by analog recording was fixed by the new process, hence, option C can't be true?
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Hi experts GMATNinja KarishmaB

In question-1, can we reject option C on the basis of reasoning that there was no comparison (favorable or unfavorable) between the traditional process (analog recording) with the newer process (digital recording) at the first place in para-1, it only talked about how the problem of "noise" introduced by analog recording was fixed by the new process, hence, option C can't be true?
1. Which of the following best describes the relationship of the first paragraph to the passage as a whole?

(A) The first paragraph introduces a general thesis that is elaborated on in detail elsewhere in the passage.
(B) The first paragraph presents a concrete instance of a problem that is discussed elsewhere in the passage.
(C) The first paragraph describes a traditional process that is contrasted unfavorably with a newer process described elsewhere in the passage.
(D) The first paragraph presents a dramatic example of the potential of a process that is described elsewhere in the passage.
(E) The first paragraph describes a historic incident that served as the catalyst for developments described elsewhere in the passage.


The purpose of the first para is to give an illustration of what the author wants to discuss - the better new recording method. Hence (D) is spot on.

(C) is a problem because the first para does not "describe" the traditional process. It only introduces the traditional process and points out a problem with it.
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Tough Passage; took close to 7:45 mins for all 4 questions,

Even though Q1 was tricky in terms of the traps, Q3 was the most time-consuming, since some inference questions that are not about a specific part of the passage, i.e. 1-2 sentences, make it tough to determine the correct answer, since we do not necessarily know what part of the passage to zero in on.

Generally, for inference/detail questions about one to two lines in the passage, pthe rocess I follow is to give a quick re-read, and use POE.

What, if any, process can be used for questions like Q3? (Other than reading better duh:/) Since the information about the focus of the question is spread throughout the paragraph, and it is not possible to reread it to compare with the answer choices to get the correct answer?

For eg, I struggled to eliminate B, even though I chose the correct one since it matched what I recollected and could see in the passage

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What, if any, process can be used for questions like Q3? (Other than reading better duh:/) Since the information about the focus of the question is spread throughout the paragraph, and it is not possible to reread it to compare with the answer choices to get the correct answer?

For eg, I struggled to eliminate B, even though I chose the correct one since it matched what I recollected and could see in the passage
Great question about the process for detail in general - how do we orient ourselves based on how the question is presented? Although you didn't say it explicitly, I'm sure you've noticed that some detail questions point you towards a very narrow fact, sentence, or even word. However, some detail questions can be exceedingly broad; for example, "Which of the following is mentioned in the passage?" points to the entire thing! This is somewhere in the middle. Yes, the concept of "numbers" is discussed a few times in paragraph 3, but at least it's confined to a single paragraph!

I would go back and skim quickly to see where "numbers" was mentioned (and check my initial 1-bullet blurb about what I thought the point of this paragraph was). My initial blurb was something like "digital converts waveform to #s which reduces storage distortion, but other distortion can still be there - 2 types." And thankfully, numbers is only mentioned in the first half of the paragraph - I absolutely will re-read 3 sentences to help me predict an answer!

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Which of the following statements about the numbers by which sound is represented in a digital system can be inferred from the passage?

What does the passage say about "numbers"
- original sound is reduced to them (discrete) to represent the waveform
- system only reads "numbers" so storage/manipulation distortion has little/no effect (as long as #s remain recognizable!)
- this happens with little loss in quality
- waveform is continuous but numbers are discrete (possible mismatch that leads to other distortion?)

Now we compare these to the answer choices and see what we cannot prove!

(A) They describe the time interval between successive sounds in a passage of music.
- I have literally no clue about this - I just know that they're discrete and represent the waveform generally

(B) They model large changes in the amplitude of the initial sound with relatively poor precision.
- again, no clue! this is all discussion of sampling error but not specifically of the numbers themselves

(C) They are slightly altered each time they are read by the playback apparatus.
- don't see this in the bits about numbers either!

(D) They are not readily altered by distortion and noise accumulated as the digital signal is stored and manipulated.
- THIS is something I read! "Any noise and distortion that may accumulate during storage and manipulate will have little effect."

(E) They are stored in the recording medium in small groups that can be read simultaneously by the playback apparatus.
- again, no clue!

So here's the thing, you're right that the concept of numbers isn't just in one sentence, the correct answer to an inference about them will have to come from the text that talks about them. And it is 100% worth the effort to go back and see where that text is and re-familiarize yourself with it. A re-read of 2-4 sentences is something I'm often doing for all detail and inference problems! If you don't read back and get a clear picture of the context you're allowed to cite, it's very very easy to get turned around in the answer choices!

Hope this helps!
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Thanks for the reply! This makes sense, although for questions where the information is spread even more than this question, since it is not possible to re-read and locate all info and still make time - I believe we might have to rely on our read + trying to find info based on specific answer choices (which would still be very time consuming). Seems to me that science passages with dense detail about some phenomenon use this question type quite frequently, since it is so easy to get lost within the fine print.

Also, when we're reading a passage for the first time, since we are not trying to memorise details, while trying to identify the "big picture" of the sentence/paragraph/passage - this seems to slip through
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What, if any, process can be used for questions like Q3? (Other than reading better duh:/) Since the information about the focus of the question is spread throughout the paragraph, and it is not possible to reread it to compare with the answer choices to get the correct answer?

For eg, I struggled to eliminate B, even though I chose the correct one since it matched what I recollected and could see in the passage
Great question about the process for detail in general - how do we orient ourselves based on how the question is presented? Although you didn't say it explicitly, I'm sure you've noticed that some detail questions point you towards a very narrow fact, sentence, or even word. However, some detail questions can be exceedingly broad; for example, "Which of the following is mentioned in the passage?" points to the entire thing! This is somewhere in the middle. Yes, the concept of "numbers" is discussed a few times in paragraph 3, but at least it's confined to a single paragraph!

I would go back and skim quickly to see where "numbers" was mentioned (and check my initial 1-bullet blurb about what I thought the point of this paragraph was). My initial blurb was something like "digital converts waveform to #s which reduces storage distortion, but other distortion can still be there - 2 types." And thankfully, numbers is only mentioned in the first half of the paragraph - I absolutely will re-read 3 sentences to help me predict an answer!

Q3
Which of the following statements about the numbers by which sound is represented in a digital system can be inferred from the passage?

What does the passage say about "numbers"
- original sound is reduced to them (discrete) to represent the waveform
- system only reads "numbers" so storage/manipulation distortion has little/no effect (as long as #s remain recognizable!)
- this happens with little loss in quality
- waveform is continuous but numbers are discrete (possible mismatch that leads to other distortion?)

Now we compare these to the answer choices and see what we cannot prove!

(A) They describe the time interval between successive sounds in a passage of music.
- I have literally no clue about this - I just know that they're discrete and represent the waveform generally

(B) They model large changes in the amplitude of the initial sound with relatively poor precision.
- again, no clue! this is all discussion of sampling error but not specifically of the numbers themselves

(C) They are slightly altered each time they are read by the playback apparatus.
- don't see this in the bits about numbers either!

(D) They are not readily altered by distortion and noise accumulated as the digital signal is stored and manipulated.
- THIS is something I read! "Any noise and distortion that may accumulate during storage and manipulate will have little effect."

(E) They are stored in the recording medium in small groups that can be read simultaneously by the playback apparatus.
- again, no clue!

So here's the thing, you're right that the concept of numbers isn't just in one sentence, the correct answer to an inference about them will have to come from the text that talks about them. And it is 100% worth the effort to go back and see where that text is and re-familiarize yourself with it. A re-read of 2-4 sentences is something I'm often doing for all detail and inference problems! If you don't read back and get a clear picture of the context you're allowed to cite, it's very very easy to get turned around in the answer choices!

Hope this helps!
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Tough Passage; took close to 7:45 mins for all 4 questions,

Even though Q1 was tricky in terms of the traps, Q3 was the most time-consuming, since some inference questions that are not about a specific part of the passage, i.e. 1-2 sentences, make it tough to determine the correct answer, since we do not necessarily know what part of the passage to zero in on.

Generally, for inference/detail questions about one to two lines in the passage, pthe rocess I follow is to give a quick re-read, and use POE.

What, if any, process can be used for questions like Q3? (Other than reading better duh:/) Since the information about the focus of the question is spread throughout the paragraph, and it is not possible to reread it to compare with the answer choices to get the correct answer?

For eg, I struggled to eliminate B, even though I chose the correct one since it matched what I recollected and could see in the passage

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For one, learn to visualize while reading.

For example, when I was reading this part:
Digital recordings, by contrast, reduce the original sound to a series of discrete numbers that represent the sound's waveform. Because the digital playback system “reads” only numbers, any noise and distortion that may accumulate during storage and manipulation of the digitized signal will have little effect: as long as the numbers remain recognizable, the original waveform will be reconstructed with little loss in quality.


I was imagining converting a wave to 2-3-5-4-1-3- based on the waveform (perhaps higher the altitude higher the number - whatever). So while reading back, the device is reading the numbers and if they are recognizable (say dust has not spoiled them) the device only needs to recognize the numbers to recreate the waveforms. In an analog form, the wave shape would change with very little dust also. I don't understand how recording music works but this is what I could gather from the passage.

Hence in question 3, when I read the options, option (D) made perfect sense. Yes, you can go and confirm in 3rd para since the digital process of numbers is discussed there so data is in a limited range here.

Bigger problems arise when the options are found all over the passage. In those, all you have time for is go back to confirm one or two options that you think make sense. Typically when you visualize the passage, you do have an idea of what could work. If pressed for time, such RC questions are perfect for review and edit option in the Verbal section.
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Thanks for the reply! This makes sense, although for questions where the information is spread even more than this question, since it is not possible to re-read and locate all info and still make time - I believe we might have to rely on our read + trying to find info based on specific answer choices (which would still be very time consuming). Seems to me that science passages with dense detail about some phenomenon use this question type quite frequently, since it is so easy to get lost within the fine print.

Also, when we're reading a passage for the first time, since we are not trying to memorise details, while trying to identify the "big picture" of the sentence/paragraph/passage - this seems to slip through
Just to caution about two things you said:
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when we're reading a passage for the first time, since we are not trying to memorise details, while trying to identify the "big picture" of the sentence/paragraph/passage - this seems to slip through
- I don't think you should be pulling ANY of the details that I provided in your first read. You're 100% right that we are trying to get the big picture only (and maybe have some light memory of where we saw things when we are pointed back. So you're right, these SHOULD slip through on the first read. However, you 100% SHOULD be going back once a passage gives you any direction at all (even a loose one), to find proof before working with the answer choices!
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although for questions where the information is spread even more than this question, since it is not possible to re-read and locate all info and still make time - I believe we might have to rely on our read + trying to find info based on specific answer choices (which would still be very time consuming).
This is exactly the point I was making about "Which of the following is mentioned in the passage?" questions. For those, know going in that they are going to be TIME CONSUMING and be ready to eliminate what you can remember and then verify quickly. Anything you're unsure of, leave it as a possibility. And then be ready for 2 answer choices to be left - the correct one, and one that is going to be much harder to find/prove. So here, I often say guess! But just because the uber-rare "zero direction" detail question exists, don't let that sway you from absolutely researching proof for any other question you'll see. Honestly, I haven't seen a "zero direction" detail question in ages in official tested material (it's honestly a tiny bit more common on the GRE since you can skip questions, but even there they seem to be phasing these out)!

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