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\(x^2 + bx – c = 0\); b and c are positive integers. u and v are roots of the quadratic equation . If |u| > |v|, then which of the following is true?

A. u>0 and v>0
B. u>0 and v<0
C. u<0 and v>0
D. u<0 and v<0
E. u=0 and v<0

(u,v) = roots; |u|>|v|;
b and c = positive integers;

vietas formula sum roots: u+v = -b/a = -b/1 = -b
u+v=-b: one must be more negative than the other, or both negative.

vietas formula product roots: uv = c/a = (-c)/1 = -c
uv=-c: (u,v) are not 0 and they have different signs.

(u,v) have different signs and one is larger than the other so that their sum is a negative.

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\(x^2 + bx – c = 0\); b and c are positive integers. u and v are roots of the quadratic equation . If |u| > |v|, then which of the following is true?

A. u>0 and v>0
B. u>0 and v<0
C. u<0 and v>0
D. u<0 and v<0
E. u=0 and v<0


Bunuel VeritasKarishma

Could you please elaborate on this question.
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Standard quadratic equation is: \({ax}^2\) + bx + c = 0

Given equation: \(x^2\) + bx - c = 0 [a = 1 ; b = b ; c = -c]

Roots: 'u' and 'v'

Sum of roots: \(\frac{- b }{ a }\)

=> u + v = \(\frac{-b }{ 1}\) = - b

=> Some of the two numbers are negative when [both are negative or anyone is more negative than others.]


Product of roots: \(\frac{c }{ a}\)

=> u * v = \(\frac{-c }{ a}\) = -c

=> Product of two numbers is negative when [both have opposite sign]


Since, lul > lvl, it is only possible when u is more negative than v.

Therefore, u < 0 and v > 0.

Answer C
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Standard quadratic equation is: \({ax}^2\) + bx + c = 0

Given equation: \(x^2\) + bx - c = 0 [a = 1 ; b = b ; c = -c]

Roots: 'u' and 'v'

Sum of roots: \(\frac{- b }{ a }\)

=> u + v = \(\frac{-b }{ 1}\) = - b

=> Some of the two numbers are negative when [both are negative or anyone is more negative than others.]


Product of roots: \(\frac{c }{ a}\)

=> u * v = \(\frac{-c }{ a}\) = -c

=> Product of two numbers is negative when [both have opposite sign]


Since, lul > lvl, it is only possible when u is more negative than v.

Therefore, u < 0 and v > 0.

Answer C

Why can't v be a small positive and u be a big negative number? That way, u+v= -ve; u*v=-ve; |u|>|v|. All three conditions met, and u and v are opposite signed too.
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\(x^2 + bx – c = 0\); b and c are positive integers. u and v are roots of the quadratic equation . If |u| > |v|, then which of the following is true?

A. u>0 and v>0
B. u>0 and v<0
C. u<0 and v>0
D. u<0 and v<0
E. u=0 and v<0


\(x^2 + bx – c = 0\)

Sum of the roots = -b (a negative number since b is positive)

Product of the roots = -c (a negative number since c is positive. Not 0 so either root cannot be 0)
This means one root is positive and the other negative.

Since sum is negative too, it means the negative number has a greater absolute value. Since absolute value of u is greater than absolute value of v, u is negative and v is positive.

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Standard quadratic equation is: \({ax}^2\) + bx + c = 0

Given equation: \(x^2\) + bx - c = 0 [a = 1 ; b = b ; c = -c]

Roots: 'u' and 'v'

Sum of roots: \(\frac{- b }{ a }\)

=> u + v = \(\frac{-b }{ 1}\) = - b

=> Some of the two numbers are negative when [both are negative or anyone is more negative than others.]


Product of roots: \(\frac{c }{ a}\)

=> u * v = \(\frac{-c }{ a}\) = -c

=> Product of two numbers is negative when [both have opposite sign]


Since, lul > lvl, it is only possible when u is more negative than v.

Therefore, u < 0 and v > 0.

Answer C

I get the logic behind using Viete's theorem, but what I don't get is the signs of b and c.

As far as I can tell you only care about "b" and "c" and not the sign that is in front in the quadratic equation.
Even if that is not the case, we see here that b is positive and c is negative so why make b negative like above?

Can someone clarify the signs that we should focus on from the quadratic?
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can someone explain why i'm wrong?

here's how i approached:

since U & V are roots of the equation:

substituting U in the equation

U^2 + U . B - C = 0

taking C on the right hand side

U^2 + U . B = (positive C)

Since U^2 can't be negative and given that B > 0

Only case for positive U > 0
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\(x^2 + bx – c = 0\); b and c are positive integers. u and v are roots of the quadratic equation . If |u| > |v|, then which of the following is true?

A. u>0 and v>0
B. u>0 and v<0
C. u<0 and v>0
D. u<0 and v<0
E. u=0 and v<0


Formula: For the quadratic equation, ax^2 + bx + c = 0.
Sum of the roots = -b/a
Product of the roots = c/a

For the given equation, x^2 + bx- c = 0

Sum of the roots, u + v = -b/1 = -b
—> Both are negative or at least 1 is negative

Product of the roots, u*v = -c/1 = -c
—> u and v are of opposite signs and
since lul > lvl,
—> u is more negative and v is positive {Eg: (u, v) = (-3, 1), (-10, 8) etc}
—> u < 0 and v > 0

Hence, OA C
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