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If \(xy≠0\), is \(|x|>|y|\)?

1) \(x=-4y\)
2) \(x=y^3\)


It is worth noting that this question has inconsistent statements. A quick way to see this is statement 1 guarantees opposite signs for x and y yet statement 2 guarantees the same sign for x and y, thus the only logical solution would have been x = y = 0.

In details, we are given \(xy≠0\) but combining the statements (we don't need to for this question but the value of x and y should be consistent throughout the question) we get \(y^3 = -4y\) and \(y*(y^2+4) = 0\). The only solution for this is \(y = 0\) yet we cannot have that, so we could rewrite statement 2 as \(x = -y^3\) for consistency.
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If \(xy≠0\), is \(|x|>|y|\)?

1) \(x=-4y\)
2) \(x=y^3\)


It is worth noting that this question has inconsistent statements. A quick way to see this is statement 1 guarantees opposite signs for x and y yet statement 2 guarantees the same sign for x and y, thus the only logical solution would have been x = y = 0.

In details, we are given \(xy≠0\) but combining the statements (we don't need to for this question but the value of x and y should be consistent throughout the question) we get \(y^3 = -4y\) and \(y*(y^2+4) = 0\). The only solution for this is \(y = 0\) yet we cannot have that, so we could rewrite statement 2 as \(x = -y^3\) for consistency.
I don't think so it is necessary that both the statements should give same value of x and y unless you are joining them.
One of the statement can give different value and it is ok if it is giving unique value which may or may not match with second statement.

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Why are we considering only absolute value of y? Why not fraction? Then 1 would not be sufficient

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[GMAT math practice question]

If \(xy≠0\), is \(|x|>|y|\)?

1) \(x=-4y\)
2) \(x=y^3\)


It is worth noting that this question has inconsistent statements. A quick way to see this is statement 1 guarantees opposite signs for x and y yet statement 2 guarantees the same sign for x and y, thus the only logical solution would have been x = y = 0.

In details, we are given \(xy≠0\) but combining the statements (we don't need to for this question but the value of x and y should be consistent throughout the question) we get \(y^3 = -4y\) and \(y*(y^2+4) = 0\). The only solution for this is \(y = 0\) yet we cannot have that, so we could rewrite statement 2 as \(x = -y^3\) for consistency.
I don't think so it is necessary that both the statements should give same value of x and y unless you are joining them.
One of the statement can give different value and it is ok if it is giving unique value which may or may not match with second statement.

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No, that's not correct.

On the GMAT, two data sufficiency statements always provide TRUE information and these statements never contradict each other or the stem.

So, for example, we can not have answer 2 from statement (1) and answer 4 from statement (2), as in this case statements would contradict each other.

Or for example in YES/NO DS questions we cannot have answer YES from statement (1) and answer NO from statement (2), as in this case statements also would contradict each other.

For the question above, solution of \(x=-4y\) and \(x=y^3\) is x = y = 0, which contradicts the stem which says that xy ≠ 0.
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If \(xy≠0\), is \(|x|>|y|\)?

1) \(x=-4y\)
2) \(x=y^3\)

From 1
lxl=4lyl
Here both sides are positive, for any value >0 lxl >lyl
Sufficient
From 2
x= 1/8 ay Y=1/2
No
x=8 at Y=2
Yes
Not sufficient
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If \(xy≠0\), is \(|x|>|y|\)?

1) \(x=-4y\)
2) \(x=y^3\)

Asked: If \(xy≠0\), is \(|x|>|y|\)?

1) \(x=-4y\)
|x| = |-4y| = 4|y|
|x|>|y|
SUFFICIENT

2) \(x=y^3\)
\(|x| = |y^3|\)
If y = .5 ; y^3 = .125; |x| = .125 < .5
But if y=2; y^3 = 8; |x| = 8 >2 = |y|
NOT SUFFICIENT

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[GMAT math practice question]

If \(xy≠0\), is \(|x|>|y|\)?

1) \(x=-4y\)
2) \(x=y^3\)


It is worth noting that this question has inconsistent statements. A quick way to see this is statement 1 guarantees opposite signs for x and y yet statement 2 guarantees the same sign for x and y, thus the only logical solution would have been x = y = 0.

In details, we are given \(xy≠0\) but combining the statements (we don't need to for this question but the value of x and y should be consistent throughout the question) we get \(y^3 = -4y\) and \(y*(y^2+4) = 0\). The only solution for this is \(y = 0\) yet we cannot have that, so we could rewrite statement 2 as \(x = -y^3\) for consistency.
I don't think so it is necessary that both the statements should give same value of x and y unless you are joining them.
One of the statement can give different value and it is ok if it is giving unique value which may or may not match with second statement.

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No, that's not correct.

On the GMAT, two data sufficiency statements always provide TRUE information and these statements never contradict each other or the stem.

So, for example, we can not have answer 2 from statement (1) and answer 4 from statement (2), as in this case statements would contradict each other.

Or for example in YES/NO DS questions we cannot have answer YES from statement (1) and answer NO from statement (2), as in this case statements also would contradict each other.

For the question above, solution of \(x=-4y\) and \(x=y^3\) is x = y = 0, which contradicts the stem which says that xy ≠ 0.



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Why are we considering only integers? the question stem dosen't specify which type of number it is :roll: .
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[quote="TestPrepUnlimited"][quote="MathRevolution"][GMAT math practice question]

If \(xy≠0\), is \(|x|>|y|\)?

1) \(x=-4y\)
2) \(x=y^3\)


It is worth noting that this question has inconsistent statements. A quick way to see this is statement 1 guarantees opposite signs for x and y yet statement 2 guarantees the same sign for x and y, thus the only logical solution would have been x = y = 0.

In details, we are given \(xy≠0\) but combining the statements (we don't need to for this question but the value of x and y should be consistent throughout the question) we get \(y^3 = -4y\) and \(y*(y^2+4) = 0\). The only solution for this is \(y = 0\) yet we cannot have that, so we could rewrite statement 2 as \(x = -y^3\) for consistency.
I don't think so it is necessary that both the statements should give same value of x and y unless you are joining them.
One of the statement can give different value and it is ok if it is giving unique value which may or may not match with second statement.

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No, that's not correct.

On the GMAT, two data sufficiency statements always provide TRUE information and these statements never contradict each other or the stem.

So, for example, we can not have answer 2 from statement (1) and answer 4 from statement (2), as in this case statements would contradict each other.

Or for example in YES/NO DS questions we cannot have answer YES from statement (1) and answer NO from statement (2), as in this case statements also would contradict each other.

For the question above, solution of \(x=-4y\) and \(x=y^3\) is x = y = 0, which contradicts the stem which says that xy ≠ 0.[/quote]



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Why are we considering only integers? the question stem dosen't specify which type of number it is :roll: .[/quote]

I don't see any solution above which gets sufficiency for (1) based on number plugging, all of them get sufficiency based on algebraic manipulation. So it's not clear what you mean.

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