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31 Jul 2012, 04:47
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Need help with the answers to the below questions. also need someone to explain why the alternate options that i mention are incorrect.
1. I have a large stamp collection. The stamps in this section are from the United States. Others are from other places in the world.
1. I have a large stamp collection. The stamps in this section are from the United States. The others are from the other places in the world.
- Here, if we consider that the stamps belong to a specific collection, then can't we say that the stamps are specifically arranged in sections as per their place of origin? Wouldn't this make them specific and thus the use of "the other" in the 1st blank.
Also, aren't the places specific since they belong to a single world?
2. You can buy this shirt and another one. Which other would you like?
2. You can buy this shirt and the other one. Which others would you like?
- Here, the speaker tells the person in question that he can buy 2 shirts that he might have selected(say from a particular type) to buy. Wouldn't this make "The other" a candidate for the 1st blank.
Also, giving him options to select more shirts (of other types), doesn't "others" qualify for 2nd blank?
1. I have a large stamp collection. The stamps in this section are from the United States. Others are from other places in the world.
1. I have a large stamp collection. The stamps in this section are from the United States. The others are from the other places in the world.
- Here, if we consider that the stamps belong to a specific collection, then can't we say that the stamps are specifically arranged in sections as per their place of origin? Wouldn't this make them specific and thus the use of "the other" in the 1st blank.
Also, aren't the places specific since they belong to a single world?
2. You can buy this shirt and another one. Which other would you like?
2. You can buy this shirt and the other one. Which others would you like?
- Here, the speaker tells the person in question that he can buy 2 shirts that he might have selected(say from a particular type) to buy. Wouldn't this make "The other" a candidate for the 1st blank.
Also, giving him options to select more shirts (of other types), doesn't "others" qualify for 2nd blank?
19 Aug 2012, 00:40
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When you use the phrase "the others," you are basically saying "all the other things." For instance, if I say "Two of the apples were good; the others were rotten," that means that of the apples I had, *all* but two were rotten.
So let's look at your first alternate:
"The stamps in this section are from the United States. The others are from the other places in the world."
This would mean two things: 1) All the stamps outside of that section are not from the United States; 2) The other stamps are from all the other places in the world. Here, using "other" without "the" is much better. Now it just means that some of the stamps are from some other places in the world.
Now for the next one:
"You can buy this shirt and the other one. Which others would you like?"
These two sentences are contradictory. By saying "the other one," the first sentence tells me that there is one specific shirt that I may buy in addition to "this shirt." "Another" means "one more," while "the other" refers to one specific other thing (with the implication that I know what that one other is).
Now, if you follow this with "Which others would you like?" you are asking which shirts (plural) I would like. Since you have just told me I may only have two specific shirts ("this one" and "the other one"), this question doesn't make sense. If you ask me "Which others do you like?" I might surmise that you are asking my opinion on several shirts, even though I might only get one. But if you ask "Which others would you like?" it sounds like you are letting me pick several shirts.
By the way, I wouldn't say "Which other would you like?" In a new sentence, I'd prefer to see a noun or pronoun after "other," so I'd say "Which other one would you like?" However, I don't think that kind of small distinction would be tested on the GMAT.
So let's look at your first alternate:
"The stamps in this section are from the United States. The others are from the other places in the world."
This would mean two things: 1) All the stamps outside of that section are not from the United States; 2) The other stamps are from all the other places in the world. Here, using "other" without "the" is much better. Now it just means that some of the stamps are from some other places in the world.
Now for the next one:
"You can buy this shirt and the other one. Which others would you like?"
These two sentences are contradictory. By saying "the other one," the first sentence tells me that there is one specific shirt that I may buy in addition to "this shirt." "Another" means "one more," while "the other" refers to one specific other thing (with the implication that I know what that one other is).
Now, if you follow this with "Which others would you like?" you are asking which shirts (plural) I would like. Since you have just told me I may only have two specific shirts ("this one" and "the other one"), this question doesn't make sense. If you ask me "Which others do you like?" I might surmise that you are asking my opinion on several shirts, even though I might only get one. But if you ask "Which others would you like?" it sounds like you are letting me pick several shirts.
By the way, I wouldn't say "Which other would you like?" In a new sentence, I'd prefer to see a noun or pronoun after "other," so I'd say "Which other one would you like?" However, I don't think that kind of small distinction would be tested on the GMAT.
