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Hi again,

Thanks for emphasizing all that you have accomplished and achieved. That will all certainly benefit your application.

To come back to the GMAT however... is it possible to apply with a 610 and add some statements in the 'optional essay' about why you weren't able to devote sufficient time to it, and/or why that does not reflect your actual ability to handle business school, and get accepted at top programs?? Sure, it is POSSIBLE. However the chances are very slim.

Both HBS & GSB have a middle 80% GMAT range that STARTS at 680 (and Sloan, at 670). So that means that only 20% of their admitted class had scores below 680.... they do not post more detail than that, but you can imagine the % with a 610 or less is very small. Do they accept them? A few, yes..... but they accept a LOT of people who score 680, 700, 720, etc...... so one way to look at it is, there are a LOT more places or better chances with higher scores!! If you score very low, you are competing for maybe a couple of rare spots that they will accept someone at that score level, and everything else on the application must be OUTSTANDING compared to all other applicants (and these schools get amazingly qualified applicants!).

Stanford GSB in particular has a much smaller class size!! So those numbers are even SMALLER..... less than half the class size of HBS! Good to keep in mind. They truly are the most competitive and selective program out there, given the # of spots, the # of applications, and the average GMAT scores.

Schools make admissions decisions by looking at your entire profile and making a decision. There is no 'weight' or percentage to any component, including GMAT. BUT-- the GMAT is designed to be a 'predictor of your academic success' in business school.... therefore, schools use it to confirm that you CAN handle the academic rigor of the program. If you do well on the GMAT, it does NOT guarantee you'll get in, but you could think of it as 'checking the box' that you CAN handle b-school, and then the admissions officers will look at the rest of your application to assess who you are, what you'll bring to the program, what you'll do with their MBA, etc. However with a score much much LOWER than their average.... that can be reason enough for them to reject you, compared with so many other strong candidates. So you don't want the GMAT to be the thing that keeps you out!!

Schools take the highest score, and it is very common to take it more than once. I have heard several admissions officers state that they would rather someone try again if needed, then 'give up' on one low score...

Final interesting tidbit, a Kaplan study from 2011 surveyed 265 admissions officers and asked 'what is the biggest application killer?', and 58% said GMAT scores.... again doesn't mean a high GMAT is SUFFICIENT to get in, but it can more easily be sufficient to keep you out so to speak.

ALL THAT SAID... if someone has an outstanding application, and they have taken the test more than once and not done as they'd hoped and/or are not able to re-take, ideally for specific reasons (family/personal challenges; they are working overseas in an undeveloped country where they can't get to a test-center, other specific reasons), I have counseled clients to explain this in the optional essay and still apply just in case. Even in this scenario, it is more likely to schools outside the top 8-10 though, for example Duke, Darden, Ross, etc, for better odds.

Lots to think about, good luck to you!
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Thanks a ton for the deep insights.. :)

Can you please tell me which schools ( both ivys and others ) give more weightage to start up experience.


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Hi Sunil,

There's no specific 'weight' given to any aspect of your application, in that the admissions decisions truly are made holistically. Start-up experience can be a plus at ANY business school if presented in the right way, and you can demonstrated what you learned from it, what you achieved, how it has affected your future goals/career plans, etc. Certainly if entrepreneurship is your primary goal, it can help to discuss what you gained from that past experience, and some schools are particularly known for strength in entrepreneurship, such as Babson, HBS, Stanford, Haas, Sloan, Wharton, Ross, Marshall, etc, but entrepreneurship is an important component of all top b-schools.
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Thanks for the Feedback.

Cheers,
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You're more than welcome!