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Hello everyone,
I got admit to NYU Stern and Berkeley Haas weekend programs. Still awaiting revert from Booth and Kellogg but wanted to check with peers at Gmatclub on recommendations based on your experience and insights on similar scenarios.
Background - I have 8 years of experience in Healthcare analytics and currently working with one of the big pharma company. I am based out of New Jersey and wont be able to move to any other area as my job is based in this location. My MBA goals are to learn new things( coursework), build connections in healthcare and analytics industry and move up the ladder in current organization.
Best school choice for my goals - NYU Stern is an easy choice due to negligible commute but healthcare roots are not that great at Stern and I am worried whether this will be a good choice. Haas is just amazing school and I don't know whether I can commute from Newark to California every week? Anyone with similar scenario? Although I wish Kellogg and Booth give their results soon so that I can go to my dream school there but meanwhile I am looking into all options.
Update June 1,2021 - Got into Kellogg weekend program and waiting on Booth’s decision. More inclined towards Kellogg due to their amazing curriculum and close knit community feeling.
I got admit to NYU Stern and Berkeley Haas weekend programs. Still awaiting revert from Booth and Kellogg but wanted to check with peers at Gmatclub on recommendations based on your experience and insights on similar scenarios.
Background - I have 8 years of experience in Healthcare analytics and currently working with one of the big pharma company. I am based out of New Jersey and wont be able to move to any other area as my job is based in this location. My MBA goals are to learn new things( coursework), build connections in healthcare and analytics industry and move up the ladder in current organization.
Best school choice for my goals - NYU Stern is an easy choice due to negligible commute but healthcare roots are not that great at Stern and I am worried whether this will be a good choice. Haas is just amazing school and I don't know whether I can commute from Newark to California every week? Anyone with similar scenario? Although I wish Kellogg and Booth give their results soon so that I can go to my dream school there but meanwhile I am looking into all options.
Update June 1,2021 - Got into Kellogg weekend program and waiting on Booth’s decision. More inclined towards Kellogg due to their amazing curriculum and close knit community feeling.
26 May 2021, 12:01
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Congrats on your admits. Haas WEMBA is a very competitive program! Probably one of the most competitive PT/WE MBA's in big part due to the bay area competition and demand so I can see how it would be a strong contender.
You definitely will have classmates who will also be traveling. I don't know about the 5.5 hour flight each way + commute time to/from. There is likely at least one redeye in there... I am not sure how you feel about it. You will have cost and hassle as well, potentially hitting $2-3K/month in extra cost, not including time.
I am not sure I could justify the time and money though if you had more reasons to be in Bay area and possibly work some weeks remotely from a friends/family place there then perhaps. I could see plane time being productive for school work and prep of being 5 hours undisturbed in the air though still wearing masks, etc. It is not like it used to be... I am not sure I would advocate it. In addition to the logistical challenge, you will also likely miss out on the network and meeting up with people during the week or simply attending the school events (e.g. speakers, dean's series, receptions, etc that are not on weekends). After graduation your local network would not be as rich and strong as if you attended a locally based Program.
I would vote for Stern despite perhaps not being the Harvard of PTMBA due to local network, opportunities, and logistics.
P.S.
Can you make other programs work? Absolutely! Nobody will fault you for going to K or B or Haas
Would you get a lot out of them? Absolutely! You may get even more as they will push you harder due to travel and logistics. They can break you in the process but you will definitely gain a lot of growth out of them.
You definitely will have classmates who will also be traveling. I don't know about the 5.5 hour flight each way + commute time to/from. There is likely at least one redeye in there... I am not sure how you feel about it. You will have cost and hassle as well, potentially hitting $2-3K/month in extra cost, not including time.
I am not sure I could justify the time and money though if you had more reasons to be in Bay area and possibly work some weeks remotely from a friends/family place there then perhaps. I could see plane time being productive for school work and prep of being 5 hours undisturbed in the air though still wearing masks, etc. It is not like it used to be... I am not sure I would advocate it. In addition to the logistical challenge, you will also likely miss out on the network and meeting up with people during the week or simply attending the school events (e.g. speakers, dean's series, receptions, etc that are not on weekends). After graduation your local network would not be as rich and strong as if you attended a locally based Program.
I would vote for Stern despite perhaps not being the Harvard of PTMBA due to local network, opportunities, and logistics.
P.S.
Can you make other programs work? Absolutely! Nobody will fault you for going to K or B or Haas
Would you get a lot out of them? Absolutely! You may get even more as they will push you harder due to travel and logistics. They can break you in the process but you will definitely gain a lot of growth out of them.
26 May 2021, 12:17
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Something else I just thought about. Is rank important for part-time or executive MBA? Or rather how much weight should you give to the rankings?
I feel that rankings are very important for full-time programs because that tends to be an indicator of the student body, the professors, and also the recruiters and companies that come on campus.
However, for part-time programs, because they tend to be geographically local and mobility of students tends to be restricted, they form local mini bubbles appealing to local candidates. This means that often regardless of the rank but primarily based on the location, these programs attract a diverse student body. That means a highly ranked and the medium ranked part time programs likely will have similar students. A number of applicants does commute and travel for their weekend or especially once a month executive programs but the majority of students are local. I feel this lack of mobility negates the ranking play and significantly diminishes rankings importance.
For example, for every single person who decides to commute and fly multiple hours each weekend, there is four or five students who choose not to do that for family or work commitments. I said number of people who said they couldn’t take enough time off to be able to make it to school on Friday. As a result you have a good quality and diversity of a class at many of the part-time programs and as long as it’s not a University of Phoenix or something sketchy, I feel most top 20 programs would provide you with a great student and classmate base. And frankly that is the key. That is the foundational part of a business school program is your classmates. Iron sharpens iron. If you are surrounded by talented and amazing individuals who are working hard to improve themselves, they will motivate you and you will motivate them. Doesn’t matter how exciting a boring your classes are or how cool the building is or what speakers the dean brings to campus, The student body will be able to create opportunities for itself. You can start clubs, you can network together, you can share job leads and help each other interview. You can also commiserate together and find understanding. You can find people in exactly the same life situation as you are….
I think in the long run, I wouldn’t be too concerned about the rankings and more looking out for the student body quality.
PS. Also here’s potentially someone to connect with. One of your potential classmates at Stern: https://gmatclub.com/forum/weekend-mba- ... 45524.html
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I feel that rankings are very important for full-time programs because that tends to be an indicator of the student body, the professors, and also the recruiters and companies that come on campus.
However, for part-time programs, because they tend to be geographically local and mobility of students tends to be restricted, they form local mini bubbles appealing to local candidates. This means that often regardless of the rank but primarily based on the location, these programs attract a diverse student body. That means a highly ranked and the medium ranked part time programs likely will have similar students. A number of applicants does commute and travel for their weekend or especially once a month executive programs but the majority of students are local. I feel this lack of mobility negates the ranking play and significantly diminishes rankings importance.
For example, for every single person who decides to commute and fly multiple hours each weekend, there is four or five students who choose not to do that for family or work commitments. I said number of people who said they couldn’t take enough time off to be able to make it to school on Friday. As a result you have a good quality and diversity of a class at many of the part-time programs and as long as it’s not a University of Phoenix or something sketchy, I feel most top 20 programs would provide you with a great student and classmate base. And frankly that is the key. That is the foundational part of a business school program is your classmates. Iron sharpens iron. If you are surrounded by talented and amazing individuals who are working hard to improve themselves, they will motivate you and you will motivate them. Doesn’t matter how exciting a boring your classes are or how cool the building is or what speakers the dean brings to campus, The student body will be able to create opportunities for itself. You can start clubs, you can network together, you can share job leads and help each other interview. You can also commiserate together and find understanding. You can find people in exactly the same life situation as you are….
I think in the long run, I wouldn’t be too concerned about the rankings and more looking out for the student body quality.
PS. Also here’s potentially someone to connect with. One of your potential classmates at Stern: https://gmatclub.com/forum/weekend-mba- ... 45524.html
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