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Hello,

I have received admits from both of these programs as well, so I am in a similar dilemma.

Programs - MSc Management program at UCD's Smurfit Business School ( this program is not ranked in the FT or the QS rankings. Both the rankings rank the 'MSC International Management' program by UCD Smurfit ) and the MSc Management at Warwick Business School.

I have 1.5 years of experience in operations/manufacturing and wish to enter management consulting.

Warwick's MSc Management program is ranked 27th in the FT MIM rankings, offers electives and UK offers higher average salaries than Ireland. But, upon doing research on linkdin, I noticed that many international graduates from Warwick's MSc Management program end up returning to their home countries.

On the other hand, UCD's MSc Management program is unranked by the FT, doesn't offer any electives but has a better rank for careers service. Also, higher proportion of international MSc graduates get jobs in Ireland than Warwick
graduates.

I wish to work in the country I study in, for a few years.

Could you please advice me on which program should I go for?

Thanks and apologies for the long post.
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Hello,

I have received admits from both of these programs as well, so I am in a similar dilemma.

Programs - MSc Management program at UCD's Smurfit Business School ( this program is not ranked in the FT or the QS rankings. Both the rankings rank the 'MSC International Management' program by UCD Smurfit ) and the MSc Management at Warwick Business School.

I have 1.5 years of experience in operations/manufacturing and wish to enter management consulting.

Warwick's MSc Management program is ranked 27th in the FT MIM rankings, offers electives and UK offers higher average salaries than Ireland. But, upon doing research on linkdin, I noticed that many international graduates from Warwick's MSc Management program end up returning to their home countries.

On the other hand, UCD's MSc Management program is unranked by the FT, doesn't offer any electives but has a better rank for careers service. Also, higher proportion of international MSc graduates get jobs in Ireland than Warwick
graduates.

I wish to work in the country I study in, for a few years.

Could you please advise me on which program should I go for?

Thanks and apologies for the long post.
Honestly, I talked to students from both MSc Management courses. And the advice I received as an international student was to "be prepared". There is no placement thing abroad like we all are used to in India, so most students end up getting disappointed and return home country. No matter where you end up, you have to be in game from day 1. In terms of Management Consulting I believe UK market is stronger, but Ireland is rising up as a tech giant (country wise) so the options for getting a job in both country are the same and depends upon you.
Both schools are brilliant and the class profile for both school's msc management are almost the same.

I believe MSc Management is way general like you will be having broader scope to get job anywhere at the same time with no specialization. My friend is studying MSc management so I know that you will get only 1 optional module for MSc management. Try to talk to existing student at UCD. They might have more module options.

Nevertheless, you won't be trading off much in either case. Both schools are equally good.

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There is probably a difference in Job opportunities as well as visa options in Ireland (EU) vs. England (UK)?
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There is probably a difference in Job opportunities as well as visa options in Ireland (EU) vs. England (UK)?
Both UK and Ireland have 2 years post grad work visa. And I think UK has more industry wise options given its a bigger country. But it's not like you won't find the companies in Ireland, its just options become broader in UK.

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One thing is for sure, you can visit other EU countries freely (as in without restriction, not free of cost) if you choose UCD. You still have to apply for a proper work visa to work in any EU country.

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Also, is there a difference in ease/difficulty of landing a job in both the countries ? I understand that getting a job completely depends upon the skillset and efforts of the individual, but I have also heard that employers are reluctant to give visa sponsored jobs to foreigners, to what extent is this true and is this situation different in Ireland compared to that in UK ?
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Also, is there a difference in ease/difficulty of landing a job in both the countries ? I understand that getting a job completely depends upon the skillset and efforts of the individual, but I have also heard that employers are reluctant to give visa sponsored jobs to foreigners, to what extent is this true and is this situation different in Ireland compared to that in UK ?
It's not easy in either country or even in India. With a boom in the digital sector, you might have to keep up with the tech trend to land a good job amidst the chaos/uncertainties. You will have to give and get extra to prove your chances amidst the mass of people fighting for same role. And when I say mass. It really exists. There is no right or wrong. It solely depends on your long-term goal. I am sure you will end up doing great in either case.

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Hello,

I have received admits from both of these programs as well, so I am in a similar dilemma.

Programs - MSc Management program at UCD's Smurfit Business School ( this program is not ranked in the FT or the QS rankings. Both the rankings rank the 'MSC International Management' program by UCD Smurfit ) and the MSc Management at Warwick Business School.

I have 1.5 years of experience in operations/manufacturing and wish to enter management consulting.

Warwick's MSc Management program is ranked 27th in the FT MIM rankings, offers electives and UK offers higher average salaries than Ireland. But, upon doing research on linkdin, I noticed that many international graduates from Warwick's MSc Management program end up returning to their home countries.

On the other hand, UCD's MSc Management program is unranked by the FT, doesn't offer any electives but has a better rank for careers service. Also, higher proportion of international MSc graduates get jobs in Ireland than Warwick
graduates.

I wish to work in the country I study in, for a few years.

Could you please advice me on which program should I go for?

Thanks and apologies for the long post.

Hey AdityaAwasthi,

Given your goals and career aspirations, it seems like Warwick's MSc Management program would be a better fit for you, as it is ranked 27th in the FT MIM rankings and offers electives. However, it is important to consider that a higher proportion of international graduates from UCD's MSc Management program stay in Ireland, which may be a factor if you wish to work in the country where you study. Ultimately, it would be best to weigh both factors and consider which program aligns better with your career goals and personal preferences.

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