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11 Dec 2023, 06:24
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Hello everyone!
I was approved both at Cornell and Tuck and I'm struggling to take a decision here.
It seems that the Tuck community is really close-knit, people seems really nice and I think I would love the Hanover lifestyle.
Also it seems that Tuck has a much greater prestige than Cornell.
However, seems that Cornell is much more inclined to an Investment Banking career than Tuck (attachment).
1) Does this means that recruiting to IB would be impossible/really hard?
2) Prestige: can you guys give me your opinion regarding this subject? I'm an international prospect so I wanted to confirm how this prestige looks from an inside point of view.
Thank you all in advance!
I was approved both at Cornell and Tuck and I'm struggling to take a decision here.
It seems that the Tuck community is really close-knit, people seems really nice and I think I would love the Hanover lifestyle.
Also it seems that Tuck has a much greater prestige than Cornell.
However, seems that Cornell is much more inclined to an Investment Banking career than Tuck (attachment).
1) Does this means that recruiting to IB would be impossible/really hard?
2) Prestige: can you guys give me your opinion regarding this subject? I'm an international prospect so I wanted to confirm how this prestige looks from an inside point of view.
Thank you all in advance!
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11 Dec 2023, 16:10
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Congratulations on your admits!
I would fully agree with your evaluation of the two programs. I’ve heard some very impressive stories about Tuck alumni being very helpful. However, Tuck is a consulting school first. There is some investment banking but not at the level of Johnson which focuses on finance quite a bit.
Within investment banking, I think you will be better off with referrals and opportunities that Johnson will offer. There are a number of New York recruiting trips. I’ve heard that people drive to New York multiple weeks for recruiting tracks. More of your classmates will be focusing on finance and investment banking. Not all of you will get it however
In terms of prestige you will not impress an investment banking company/firm when NBA degree. Maybe they’ll talk to you if you are from Harvard but you have to offer them something more than just I took the GMAT and got into an MBA program and I want to be an investment banker. I think this is a good critical reasoning exercise to make sure we separate prestige from getting a job no prestige will get your job, only a conversation. I feel there is a lot of talk about prestige on forums and social media but usually that’s wrong people have never gotten an MBA. Those who have an NBA or are getting one, realize how hard it is to get a job or an internship and that a school name is a tool to connect to a network, it’s not an advantage really.
Sorry for way too long of a message. I would consider your plan A and Plan B. Long times people choose the school for PA but if it’s not very realistic you end up recruiting for Plan B.
I would say that Tuck is an absolutely amazing program with an amazing community and is absolutely worth going to. Being fairly new with investment banking, so my suggestion would be to start reaching out to tuck alumni in investment banking today and talk to them about your choice and your opportunities. Start building your investment banking network because that network will help you get a job in two years. What they would’ve done if they had the choice. Ask both Tuck and Johnson alumni.
PS. Quick tip about reaching out to Tuck alumni, they reply so don’t message 15 people because you may end up stuck talking to all of them. That happens to one other admit who had to have 14 phone calls. 14 out of 15 people responded to him and he didn’t want to seem like a loser who doesn’t follow up. That’s the strength of Tuck’s net work
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I would fully agree with your evaluation of the two programs. I’ve heard some very impressive stories about Tuck alumni being very helpful. However, Tuck is a consulting school first. There is some investment banking but not at the level of Johnson which focuses on finance quite a bit.
Within investment banking, I think you will be better off with referrals and opportunities that Johnson will offer. There are a number of New York recruiting trips. I’ve heard that people drive to New York multiple weeks for recruiting tracks. More of your classmates will be focusing on finance and investment banking. Not all of you will get it however
In terms of prestige you will not impress an investment banking company/firm when NBA degree. Maybe they’ll talk to you if you are from Harvard but you have to offer them something more than just I took the GMAT and got into an MBA program and I want to be an investment banker. I think this is a good critical reasoning exercise to make sure we separate prestige from getting a job no prestige will get your job, only a conversation. I feel there is a lot of talk about prestige on forums and social media but usually that’s wrong people have never gotten an MBA. Those who have an NBA or are getting one, realize how hard it is to get a job or an internship and that a school name is a tool to connect to a network, it’s not an advantage really.
Sorry for way too long of a message. I would consider your plan A and Plan B. Long times people choose the school for PA but if it’s not very realistic you end up recruiting for Plan B.
I would say that Tuck is an absolutely amazing program with an amazing community and is absolutely worth going to. Being fairly new with investment banking, so my suggestion would be to start reaching out to tuck alumni in investment banking today and talk to them about your choice and your opportunities. Start building your investment banking network because that network will help you get a job in two years. What they would’ve done if they had the choice. Ask both Tuck and Johnson alumni.
PS. Quick tip about reaching out to Tuck alumni, they reply so don’t message 15 people because you may end up stuck talking to all of them. That happens to one other admit who had to have 14 phone calls. 14 out of 15 people responded to him and he didn’t want to seem like a loser who doesn’t follow up. That’s the strength of Tuck’s net work
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12 Dec 2023, 11:31
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Bb, thank you for your prompt response!
In relation to the prestige question I asked, thank you so much for sharing your point of view. Other students/alumni from both Tuck and Cornell confirmed this very point of view that schools are much more viewed aggrouped in tiers, and that Tuck and Cornell belong to the same tier - i.e. they are both great and awesome schools.
In relation to the IB career, talking to students/alumni I understood that Cornell has a very well structured pathway with clear step-by-steps that you need to do. They told me that Cornell hired a former-IB to design this process, create their technicals/behaviorals guidance and etc. Some even referred this process as "a streamlined one", not in the pejorative sense of the word.
On the other hand, as of Tuck, it seems that the 1st years learn from the 2nd years in a very "community-driven" way. It doesn't have a structured pathway with clear step-by-steps, but it have the community-closeness characteristic of Tuck. Students/alumni told me that they go to New York weekly, just as Cornell's students do.
Also, ~80 students are hired for IB from Cornell yearly, whilst on Tuck it is ~40 (yearly).
Still working on my conclusion. If anyone has thoughts on all this I would be glad to hear.
In relation to the prestige question I asked, thank you so much for sharing your point of view. Other students/alumni from both Tuck and Cornell confirmed this very point of view that schools are much more viewed aggrouped in tiers, and that Tuck and Cornell belong to the same tier - i.e. they are both great and awesome schools.
In relation to the IB career, talking to students/alumni I understood that Cornell has a very well structured pathway with clear step-by-steps that you need to do. They told me that Cornell hired a former-IB to design this process, create their technicals/behaviorals guidance and etc. Some even referred this process as "a streamlined one", not in the pejorative sense of the word.
On the other hand, as of Tuck, it seems that the 1st years learn from the 2nd years in a very "community-driven" way. It doesn't have a structured pathway with clear step-by-steps, but it have the community-closeness characteristic of Tuck. Students/alumni told me that they go to New York weekly, just as Cornell's students do.
Also, ~80 students are hired for IB from Cornell yearly, whilst on Tuck it is ~40 (yearly).
Still working on my conclusion. If anyone has thoughts on all this I would be glad to hear.
