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request your inputs on my queries wrt AWA :
Analysis of argument:
1) Can we mention point 1 , point 2 and so on. giving a clear differentiation for different points
2) Can we appreciate plausibility of the feeling opposite to what we are justifying in one or two sentences
3) how off the mark can we go in word count, how much does it matter.
4) should we mention corrective actions for assumptions and premise along with respective flaws or in the end with conclusion
5)wat if we want to agree to the argument. how do we write in that case.
6) can some of our examples be factually wrong.
issue:
1) word count
2) can we have a mixed view, wat do we say in the end in this case
3) do we take stand in beginning or end.
request your inputs on my queries wrt AWA :
Analysis of argument:
1) Can we mention point 1 , point 2 and so on. giving a clear differentiation for different points
2) Can we appreciate plausibility of the feeling opposite to what we are justifying in one or two sentences
3) how off the mark can we go in word count, how much does it matter.
4) should we mention corrective actions for assumptions and premise along with respective flaws or in the end with conclusion
5)wat if we want to agree to the argument. how do we write in that case.
6) can some of our examples be factually wrong.
issue:
1) word count
2) can we have a mixed view, wat do we say in the end in this case
3) do we take stand in beginning or end.
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24 Jun 2010, 00:10
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Hi Meghash. I've copied your questions below and responded in blue.
Analysis of argument:
1) Can we mention point 1 , point 2 and so on. giving a clear differentiation for different points
Do you mean using the phrases "Point 1" and "Point 2" to serve as markers for your identification of flaws in your body paragraphs? This would technically be ok but you would probably be better served by using a variety of markers--one of the criteria that the scoring algorithm uses is diction variety, so using different types of words for these "signpost" functions is a good idea. You can even memorize a set to use as a template before the exam: "First....Furthermore....Finally" etc.
2) Can we appreciate plausibility of the feeling opposite to what we are justifying in one or two sentences
You can do this, but I wouldn't go much beyond a quick phrase in the beginning of your essay acknowledging that the argument has merit. For the Issue essay, it's not a bad idea to acknowledge the other side in both the intro and conclusion (and even then don't spend a ton of time doing this)-- but your primary task in the argument essay is to identify the flaws in the given argument and suggest how to correct them.
3) how off the mark can we go in word count, how much does it matter.
I wouldn't worry about word count at all. Take a look at the sample essays provided by GMAT for a range of acceptable lengths. After that, focus on accomplishing the task of each of the essays with clear structure and specific examples-- the length will take care of itself.
4) should we mention corrective actions for assumptions and premise along with respective flaws or in the end with conclusion
Absolutely. You can and should mention ways to strength the argument by addressing its flaws. Do this after identifying each flaw in a given body paragraph. Then you can reinforce those recommendations in the conclusion. And to give the essay a little extra polish, try to use slightly different wording when you repeat your recommendation. You may find yourself saying the same thing multiple times in these essays, so make the graders think you're sophisticated by using different terminology when you do so.
5)wat if we want to agree to the argument. how do we write in that case.
Beyond a (very brief) initial acknowledgement that the argument has some merits, I wouldn't spend a lot of time doing this. The test writers purposely build quite a few substantial flaws into the argument-- if they didn't, you wouldn't have anything to write about! It is much easier to specifically pick apart why the argument is wrong than to prove why it is right-- especially since the arguments are written with holes in them.
6) can some of our examples be factually wrong.
Do you mean making stuff up? I've never heard of someone being penalized for having made a factual error, and as far as I know the computer algorithm does not do any fact checking, but it certainly wouldn't impress the human grader if you say something blatantly untrue that is against common knowledge..."When the Allies lost World War II," for example. That said, if you want to cite a story you "read" in a local newspaper or tell an anecdote about your "boss" or "grandfather" you'd probably be safe.
issue:
1) word count
see answer to #3 above
2) can we have a mixed view, wat do we say in the end in this case
It is much clearer to come down strongly in favor of one side. You can acknowledge the complexity of the issue by giving the opposite side some credit in the intro and conclusion, but the bulk of your essay should be devoted to one side-- the side you have the most to write about!
3) do we take stand in beginning or end.
Take a stand at the beginning, reinforce it throughout the body paragraphs, and repeat it (using different words) at the end. It should be crystal clear to the reader that while you are a sophisticated writer who can see both sides of the issue, you have specific examples to back up why you think one side is stronger than the other.
Analysis of argument:
1) Can we mention point 1 , point 2 and so on. giving a clear differentiation for different points
Do you mean using the phrases "Point 1" and "Point 2" to serve as markers for your identification of flaws in your body paragraphs? This would technically be ok but you would probably be better served by using a variety of markers--one of the criteria that the scoring algorithm uses is diction variety, so using different types of words for these "signpost" functions is a good idea. You can even memorize a set to use as a template before the exam: "First....Furthermore....Finally" etc.
2) Can we appreciate plausibility of the feeling opposite to what we are justifying in one or two sentences
You can do this, but I wouldn't go much beyond a quick phrase in the beginning of your essay acknowledging that the argument has merit. For the Issue essay, it's not a bad idea to acknowledge the other side in both the intro and conclusion (and even then don't spend a ton of time doing this)-- but your primary task in the argument essay is to identify the flaws in the given argument and suggest how to correct them.
3) how off the mark can we go in word count, how much does it matter.
I wouldn't worry about word count at all. Take a look at the sample essays provided by GMAT for a range of acceptable lengths. After that, focus on accomplishing the task of each of the essays with clear structure and specific examples-- the length will take care of itself.
4) should we mention corrective actions for assumptions and premise along with respective flaws or in the end with conclusion
Absolutely. You can and should mention ways to strength the argument by addressing its flaws. Do this after identifying each flaw in a given body paragraph. Then you can reinforce those recommendations in the conclusion. And to give the essay a little extra polish, try to use slightly different wording when you repeat your recommendation. You may find yourself saying the same thing multiple times in these essays, so make the graders think you're sophisticated by using different terminology when you do so.
5)wat if we want to agree to the argument. how do we write in that case.
Beyond a (very brief) initial acknowledgement that the argument has some merits, I wouldn't spend a lot of time doing this. The test writers purposely build quite a few substantial flaws into the argument-- if they didn't, you wouldn't have anything to write about! It is much easier to specifically pick apart why the argument is wrong than to prove why it is right-- especially since the arguments are written with holes in them.
6) can some of our examples be factually wrong.
Do you mean making stuff up? I've never heard of someone being penalized for having made a factual error, and as far as I know the computer algorithm does not do any fact checking, but it certainly wouldn't impress the human grader if you say something blatantly untrue that is against common knowledge..."When the Allies lost World War II," for example. That said, if you want to cite a story you "read" in a local newspaper or tell an anecdote about your "boss" or "grandfather" you'd probably be safe.
issue:
1) word count
see answer to #3 above
2) can we have a mixed view, wat do we say in the end in this case
It is much clearer to come down strongly in favor of one side. You can acknowledge the complexity of the issue by giving the opposite side some credit in the intro and conclusion, but the bulk of your essay should be devoted to one side-- the side you have the most to write about!
3) do we take stand in beginning or end.
Take a stand at the beginning, reinforce it throughout the body paragraphs, and repeat it (using different words) at the end. It should be crystal clear to the reader that while you are a sophisticated writer who can see both sides of the issue, you have specific examples to back up why you think one side is stronger than the other.
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Hi there,
This topic has been closed and archived due to inactivity or violation of community quality standards. No more replies are possible here.
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