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In the process of trying to take my verbal up a level and wanted your opinion on the Mahatten Online Test series and which tests other than GMAT prep are representative of the GMAT itself.

Reason being that today just taken two of the verbal tests from the Manhatten online test series (2 and 3) and got 28 and 25 (scaled scores) respectively which is really poor..

Recently in PR test i got 40 and have been nailing 75% upwards on OG material.

Anyone else out there experience similar issues with Manhattten online or just me??? Or is PR and OG material easy for Verbal??? Or is it normal for your score to fluctuate so much with verbal (vis a vis maths for example)??

Appreciate any feedback thanks....
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Verbal Issues 23 Aug 2006, 18:12
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Read this https://www.gmatclub.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=33956

My experience was the same as yours.
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I have the same problem as yours
Eventhough, MGMAT is a good test but score can be inflated
by the fact that it is not adaptive test.
many incorrect answers in easy question can be offset by
just 1-2 correct in 700-800 range questions

I experienced that many times
I can easily answer "defined as hard(700-800)" questions correctly
in less than 2 minutes while struggling for more than 3 mins in
500-600 level questions and ending up answer incorrectly

Another fact is if you make many mistakes in medium-level questions
in official test , you will not have a chance to see hard-level questions.
Your score will be limited to lower range eventhough you have ability
to solve hard questions but your eligibility to see them is not offered
anymore.

I score MGMAT verbal test#3 39
My hit rate on OG11 SC-70% CR-85% RC-78%
but end up score 16 on official test

one more fact is vocabulary level in real test in higher than GMATPREP
and any other materials . If you are not native speaker or really
strong in vocabulary, you may have a hard time solving
RCs and some CRs. This is enough to lower your score by 10-15 points
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I agree with Chen completely.. I had a similar feeling doing Gmat Verbal.
Somehow I cannot answer Medium level difficult questions.. So I never got to see the hard level... I knew I could answer hard level Verbal questions.. but never got them...

I guess its really hard to say whats medium level and hard level questions in the real gmat?
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Thanks guys for all your input.

Just did a GMAT 800 verbal and scored 36 (which is an 11 point difference with the last Manhatten test).

My understanding is that (might be completely wrong here because i am a very long way off cracking this baby!!!) with the verbal section, specifically the harder RC and CR questions, there seems to be two possible answers...one of which according to GMAT logic is more correct than the other. If you have a bad day and select the "partially correct but the other answer is better" choice all the time then this will bring your score down quite considerably.

Anyway, gotta keep plugging away and we will all get there i guess...let me know your progress guys...
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IF you are getting 35 or 36 in verbal. Then you are living on the edge. It's just like my case. You dont know what will happen on the final day. SO why leave it on luck factor. Study well for verbal.
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Ruby you seem to make sense here..

I was on that edge.. But how do you get off from that edge??

thats the question
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I hope you might have read my experience of GMAT.

After scoring V27 and Q49 (630). The first thing I did was join this club and realized that there is a lot of ground to be covered. Most of the people are helpful on this board.

For Verbal.
1) Again brush up ur verbal skills.
2) Download 1000CR,SC and RC practice them.
3) In SC : Know why the options are wrong and in case you get a new concept note it down. Instead of remebering.
4) In CR : Try not to solve it mentally use the paper and pencil and solve it like a quants problem. After solving 1000 CR you will be good enough at speed.
5) In RC : Practice the 100 RC and learn how to make the jist of the passage by skimming. Train your self to not to come to conslusions rather than see why the answer is wrong.

My score is not good enough to give you a lecture but in case you want to do like this. you will excell.

MBA doesnot want independent thinking entrpreneurs they want people who can work in the set of rules. So your call. Lets train oursleves otherwise we are neither like independent entrepreneurs nor like an MBA.

MOTIVATE AND TRAIN YOURSELF. No pain no gain.
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MBA doesnot want independent thinking entrpreneurs they want people who can work in the set of rules. So your call. Lets train oursleves otherwise we are neither like independent entrepreneurs nor like an MBA.
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About the no pain, no gain rule, absolutely. This apply's to all aspects of life: work, hobbies, family, self-enhancement....

Regarding the entrepreneur mindset, I disagree. Based on the accounts of many colleagues who have completed, are about to complete, or (like myself) are preparing to enter, a competitive MBA program, many schools actually do look for independent entrepreneurs, especially successful ones who can add diversity to classroom discussion and cohort projects. This is not to say that a fully self-centered personality is best suited for B-school, but rather that a dynamic person who wants to start and run their own enterprise can equally contribute and benefit from the overall experience and connections attained during b-school life as can an aspiring corporate ladder climber. It's all a matter of perspective. Different strokes for different folks.
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