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What is the probability that a 4 person committee chosen at random from a group consisting of 6 men, 7 women, and 5 children contains exactly 1 woman?

A. 77/204
B. 77/832
C. 11/77
D. 308/1411
E. 22/832

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What is the probability that a 4 person committee chosen at random from a group consisting of 6 men, 7 women, and 5 children contains exactly 1 woman?

A. 77/204
B. 77/832
C. 11/77
D. 308/1411
E. 22/832


Total possible selections = 4 out of 18 group members = 18C4

Favorable selections = 1 out of 7 women and 3 out of 11 (= 6 men + 5 children) = 7C1 * 11C3

Thus the required probability = 7C1*11C3 / 18C4 = 77/204. Thus A is the correct answer.
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What is the probability that a 4 person committee chosen at random from a group consisting of 6 men, 7 women, and 5 children contains exactly 1 woman?

A. 77/204
B. 77/832
C. 11/77
D. 308/1411
E. 22/832


Total possible selections = 4 out of 18 group members = 18C4

Favorable selections = 1 out of 7 women and 3 out of 11 (= 6 men + 5 children) = 7C1 * 11C3

Thus the required probability = 7C1*11C3 / 18C4 = 77/204. Thus A is the correct answer.


Thanks, thats a nice aproach too!

Could you elaborate on how you get to the final answer of 77/204 (from here: 7C1*11C3 / 18C4 = 77/204)?

Official Solution: 4 * 11/18 * 7/17 * 10/16 *9/15
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What is the probability that a 4 person committee chosen at random from a group consisting of 6 men, 7 women, and 5 children contains exactly 1 woman?

A. 77/204
B. 77/832
C. 11/77
D. 308/1411
E. 22/832


Total possible selections = 4 out of 18 group members = 18C4

Favorable selections = 1 out of 7 women and 3 out of 11 (= 6 men + 5 children) = 7C1 * 11C3

Thus the required probability = 7C1*11C3 / 18C4 = 77/204. Thus A is the correct answer.


Thanks, thats a nice aproach too!

Could you elaborate on how you get to the final answer of 77/204 (from here: 7C1*11C3 / 18C4 = 77/204)?

Official Solution: 4 * 11/18 * 7/17 * 10/16 *9/15


Sure.

18C4 = 18! / (4!*14!) .... as nCr = n!/(r!*(n-r)!) = 17*15*4*3

*and the numerator = 7C1*11C3 = 7*11*5*3

Thus, the final answer = (7*11*5*3) / (17*15*4*3) = 77/204.
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What is the probability that a 4 person committee chosen at random from a group consisting of 6 men, 7 women, and 5 children contains exactly 1 woman?

A. 77/204
B. 77/832
C. 11/77
D. 308/1411
E. 22/832


Total possible selections = 4 out of 18 group members = 18C4

Favorable selections = 1 out of 7 women and 3 out of 11 (= 6 men + 5 children) = 7C1 * 11C3

Thus the required probability = 7C1*11C3 / 18C4 = 77/204. Thus A is the correct answer.


Thanks, thats a nice aproach too!

Could you elaborate on how you get to the final answer of 77/204 (from here: 7C1*11C3 / 18C4 = 77/204)?

Official Solution: 4 * 11/18 * 7/17 * 10/16 *9/15



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\(\frac{7C1*11C3}{18C4} = 7*\frac{11!}{8!3!}*\frac{4!14!}{18!}=7*\frac{11*10*9}{3!}*\frac{4!}{18*17*16*15}\)........

\(\frac{7*4*11*10*9}{18*17*16*15}\)
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Sample space = 18C4 = (18*17*16*14)/(1*2*3*4) = 3060.

Favourable events = (7C1) * (11C3) = 1155.

Probability = 1155/3060 = 231/612 = 77/204. Ans (A).
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Can someone explain the reasoning behind 11C3 is it to choose the remaining members from the men and children. If so, why is that important if we just want to determine the probability of choosing exactly 1 woman from the group?
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Can someone explain the reasoning behind 11C3 is it to choose the remaining members from the men and children. If so, why is that important if we just want to determine the probability of choosing exactly 1 woman from the group?


Yes, you are correct that the logic behind 11C3 is to choose 3 out of the remaining 11 'people'.

You need to know this number to calculate the number of ways you can select 'remaining' 3 people to make up the 4 member committee. When you just take the probability of selecting 1 women , you are still missing the probability of remaining 3 people. Total probability will be affected by both, probability of selecting 1 out of 7 women and probability of selecting 3 out of remaining 11 men+children.

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Here is how I solved the problem:

Step 1) Write out all of the possibilities for the four slots
(W= Women, NW= Not a Women).
- W, NW, NW, NW
- NW, W, NW, NW
- NW, NW, W, NW
- NW, NW, NW, W

There are 4 different arrangements.

Step 2) Calculate the probability of each arrangement separately combining them with "and" (meaning multiply). And remember that with each selection, the amount available becomes one smaller.

Chance of W, NW, NW, NW = (7/18)(11/17)(10/16)(9/15)
Chance of NW, W, NW, NW = (11/18)(7/17)(10/16)(9/15)
Now stop.. Realize that no matter the arrangement, the numerators and denominators will remain the same.

Step 3) Simplify and calculate 4*[(7/18)(11/17)(10/16)(9/15)] = 77/204

*With practice you should be able to quickly determine that there are four ways of arrangement and that they will all yield the same results, which puts you straight to step 3!
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What is the probability that a 4 person committee chosen at random from a group consisting of 6 men, 7 women, and 5 children contains exactly 1 woman?

A. 77/204
B. 77/832
C. 11/77
D. 308/1411
E. 22/832



Hi

Can someone please tell why are we not calculating probability separately for Men and Children instead of taking them together? The way i tried was,
7C1x6C3 + 7C1X6C2X5C1 + 7C1X6C1X5C2 but i am not able to arrive at the answer.

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Can someone please tell why are we not calculating probability separately for Men and Children instead of taking them together? The way i tried was,
7C1x6C3 + 7C1X6C2X5C1 + 7C1X6C1X5C2 but i am not able to arrive at the answer.

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Hey @s ,

You need to understand that the condition is given only on the women. So, whenever that is the case, you should not put conditions on the remaining categories.

Here, I need to make sure that out of 4 people, I must have exactly one women. This means I will choose one women out of the 7 and then choose 3 more people out of the remaining 11 (No matter whether all are males or children).

Does that make sense?
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Can someone please tell why are we not calculating probability separately for Men and Children instead of taking them together? The way i tried was,
7C1x6C3 + 7C1X6C2X5C1 + 7C1X6C1X5C2 but i am not able to arrive at the answer.

Thanks


Hey @s ,

You need to understand that the condition is given only on the women. So, whenever that is the case, you should not put conditions on the remaining categories.

Here, I need to make sure that out of 4 people, I must have exactly one women. This means I will choose one women out of the 7 and then choose 3 more people out of the remaining 11 (No matter whether all are males or children).

Does that make sense?



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What is the probability that a 4 person committee chosen at random from a group consisting of 6 men, 7 women, and 5 children contains exactly 1 woman?

A. 77/204
B. 77/832
C. 11/77
D. 308/1411
E. 22/832


The number of ways to select one woman is 7C1 = 7.

The number of ways to select 3 men and/or children is 11C3 = (11 x 10 x 9)/3! = (11 x 10 x 9)/(3 x 2) = 11 x 5 x 3

The number of ways to select 4 people from 18 is 18C4:

18C4 = (18 x 17 x 16 x 15)/4! = (18 x 17 x 16 x 15)/(4 x 3 x 2) = 3 x 17 x 4 x 15

So the probability is:

(7 x 11 x 5 x 3)/(3 x 17 x 4 x 15) = (7 x 11)/(3 x 17 x 4) = 77/204

Answer: A
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