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With total sales of less than three hundred thousand dollars and fewer new subscribers than last year, the New England Theater Company is in danger of losing its building.

(A) of less than three hundred thousand dollars and fewer
(B) lower than three hundred thousand dollars and less
(C) lesser than three hundred thousand dollars and fewer
(D) fewer than three hundred thousand dollars and less
(E) of fewer than three hundred thousand dollars and of fewer
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31 Mar 2009, 03:21
IMO E
countable-->few

both are countable nouns

less patience
less joy
but few cricketers
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31 Mar 2009, 04:03
A?

sales refers to an amount of money (e.g. i have less money than you do)

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Should be A

Both 'Less than' and 'fewer' is rightly used.

Less than is used to show decrease in value and lower than in physical level. For example water level is lower than

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31 Mar 2009, 05:17
A is OA.
But why not C? C looks okay to me.

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31 Mar 2009, 05:53
Not sure whether lesser than is apt term here. Lesser is used an adj. For ex: Lesser quantity.

Again, there may be better explanation for your question.

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A is OA.
But why not C? C looks okay to me.

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Economist wrote:
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With total sales of less than three hundred thousand dollars and fewer new subscribers than last year, the New England Theater Company is in danger of losing its building.

(A) of less than three hundred thousand dollars and fewer
(B) lower than three hundred thousand dollars and less
(C) lesser than three hundred thousand dollars and fewer
(D) fewer than three hundred thousand dollars and less
(E) of fewer than three hundred thousand dollars and of fewer

IMO A).
Have you gone through Manhattan SC (Odds and Ends) book? - It is clearly mentioned in this book about this trap.

Be careful with unit nouns.......such as dollars or gallons....By their nature they are countable (example: one dollar, two dollar etc) and so they work with most of the countable modifiers. However, unit nous represents the uncountable quantities: money, volume (one money, two money etc).

As a result we use "less" with unit nouns when we really want to indicate something about underlying quantity.

We have less than twenty dollars.........ex.

If we write we have fewer than twenty dollars that means (20 piece of papers)....so whenever underlying quantity is uncountable then use less than (especially in case of money and volume).

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Thanks for the info . My question was more regarding 'less' vs 'lesser'
But I think lesser should be followed by a noun...makes sense.

patedhav wrote:
Economist wrote:
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With total sales of less than three hundred thousand dollars and fewer new subscribers than last year, the New England Theater Company is in danger of losing its building.

(A) of less than three hundred thousand dollars and fewer
(B) lower than three hundred thousand dollars and less
(C) lesser than three hundred thousand dollars and fewer
(D) fewer than three hundred thousand dollars and less
(E) of fewer than three hundred thousand dollars and of fewer

IMO A).
Have you gone through Manhattan SC (Odds and Ends) book? - It is clearly mentioned in this book about this trap.

Be careful with unit nouns.......such as dollars or gallons....By their nature they are countable (example: one dollar, two dollar etc) and so they work with most of the countable modifiers. However, unit nous represents the uncountable quantities: money, volume (one money, two money etc).

As a result we use "less" with unit nouns when we really want to indicate something about underlying quantity.

We have less than twenty dollars.........ex.

If we write we have fewer than twenty dollars that means (20 piece of papers)....so whenever underlying quantity is uncountable then use less than (especially in case of money and volume).

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01 Apr 2009, 14:26
Just want to clarify you cannot use "lesser" I think even you have noun after that...it is not idiomatic. For comparision between two items we still use "less" (less than).....lesser than is not valid as per my understanding.

Please discuss if you have read from good sources.

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With total sales of less than three hundred thousand dollars and fewer new subscribers than last year, the New England Theatre Company is in danger of losing its building.

A. of less than three hundred thousand dollars and fewer

B. lower than three hundred thousand dollars and less

C. lesser than three hundred thousand dollars and fewer

D. fewer than three hundred thousand dollars and less

E. of fewer than three hundred thousand dollars and of fewer
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25 May 2009, 02:11
I think the original sentence is correct in all aspects. My choice for answer is A.

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25 May 2009, 04:11
straight A. Read up on differences between few / less / more / many. All other choices use these forms incorrectly.

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With total sales of less than three hundred thousand dollars and fewer new subscribers than last year, the New England Theatre Company is in danger of losing its building.

A. of less than three hundred thousand dollars and fewer

B. lower than three hundred thousand dollars and less

C. lesser than three hundred thousand dollars and fewer

D. fewer than three hundred thousand dollars and less

E. of fewer than three hundred thousand dollars and of fewer

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25 May 2009, 08:55
nightwing79 wrote:
With total sales of less than three hundred thousand dollars and fewer new subscribers than last year, the New England Theatre Company is in danger of losing its building.

A. of less than three hundred thousand dollars and fewer

B. lower than three hundred thousand dollars and less

C. lesser than three hundred thousand dollars and fewer

D. fewer than three hundred thousand dollars and less

E. of fewer than three hundred thousand dollars and of fewer

Using the comparision rules, only options A and C stand as contendors. Both A and C use the correct comparitive forms 'Less' and 'Lesser' respectively. However, if parallelism has to be taken into account then option C stands as the right choice as it uses LESSER.....FEWER construction.

Is my reasoning correct? please suggest.

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25 May 2009, 09:25
hasham222 wrote:
nightwing79 wrote:
With total sales of less than three hundred thousand dollars and fewer new subscribers than last year, the New England Theatre Company is in danger of losing its building.

A. of less than three hundred thousand dollars and fewer

B. lower than three hundred thousand dollars and less

C. lesser than three hundred thousand dollars and fewer

D. fewer than three hundred thousand dollars and less

E. of fewer than three hundred thousand dollars and of fewer

Using the comparision rules, only options A and C stand as contendors. Both A and C use the correct comparitive forms 'Less' and 'Lesser' respectively. However, if parallelism has to be taken into account then option C stands as the right choice as it uses LESSER.....FEWER construction.

Is my reasoning correct? please suggest.

A straight. total sales of + less, few usage will get us the answer
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25 May 2009, 20:32
hasham222 wrote:
nightwing79 wrote:
With total sales of less than three hundred thousand dollars and fewer new subscribers than last year, the New England Theatre Company is in danger of losing its building.

A. of less than three hundred thousand dollars and fewer

B. lower than three hundred thousand dollars and less

C. lesser than three hundred thousand dollars and fewer

D. fewer than three hundred thousand dollars and less

E. of fewer than three hundred thousand dollars and of fewer

Using the comparision rules, only options A and C stand as contendors. Both A and C use the correct comparitive forms 'Less' and 'Lesser' respectively. However, if parallelism has to be taken into account then option C stands as the right choice as it uses LESSER.....FEWER construction.

Is my reasoning correct? please suggest.

I a bit of quick research lesser is used in context of degrees (kinda like portion-like) otherwise - less is preferable...

For example ....it is "lesser evil"

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22 Apr 2010, 15:14
A is correct
sale is uncountable so less than is okay and subscriber is fewer as they are countable

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22 Apr 2010, 17:36
A straight forward one. OA is A: less for non- count (water, air etc)
fewer for counts: people; knives, plates etc
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Economist wrote:
With total sales of less than three hundred thousand dollars and fewer new subscribers than last year, the New England Theater Company is in danger of losing its building.

(A) of less than three hundred thousand dollars and fewer
(B) lower than three hundred thousand dollars and less
(C) lesser than three hundred thousand dollars and fewer
(D) fewer than three hundred thousand dollars and less
(E) of fewer than three hundred thousand dollars and of fewer

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A

IMO A

this is a "less than" and fewer problem
Ofcourse we cannot use lesser as this is not idiomatic

As per GMAT rules- it is mentioned in OG

"Less than" refers to continuous quantity => sales/revenues less than three hundred dollars - it is a continuous thing
"Fewer" refers to a specific number which is countable => fewer new subscribers => they are countable

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23 Apr 2010, 05:12
In addition to it.. we are comparing total sales with a number which is 300 thousand dollars.. its not right to say 2 is lesser than 3.. similarly total sales is less than 300, not lesser than 300 or even fewer than 300 (countable quantity)

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23 Apr 2010, 06:57
@nilesh376
You gave a valid reason why A is having correct usage.
Even I fall for trap and selected C.

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In addition to it.. we are comparing total sales with a number which is 300 thousand dollars.. its not right to say 2 is lesser than 3.. similarly total sales is less than 300, not lesser than 300 or even fewer than 300 (countable quantity)

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