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Re: 710 to 770 in 2 weeks [#permalink]
You have given me hope. I also had a nightmarish Quant experience and am planning to rewrite in two weeks. I realized that I'm terrible at the basics but good at 700 level questions (I overcomplicate the easy questions and end up with "variable soup", as I call it :) Studying with Empower GMAT now and hoping for a miracle! Congrats on the amazing score.

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Re: 710 to 770 in 2 weeks [#permalink]
NathalieMathalie wrote:
You have given me hope. I also had a nightmarish Quant experience and am planning to rewrite in two weeks. I realized that I'm terrible at the basics but good at 700 level questions (I overcomplicate the easy questions and end up with "variable soup", as I call it :) Studying with Empower GMAT now and hoping for a miracle! Congrats on the amazing score.

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Yeah, you need to be good at the basics to get to the 700 level questions!

Try not to let your first experience cloud the second. It's very easy to get stressed in the GMAT. Can't comment on Empower but GMATclub quant questions are excellent
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Are you sure you got a 9 on the IR the first time? The maximum score is an 8. I wouldn't worry about the 6 on the second try--the IR section isn't super-important.

The ESR will provide plenty of test data: timing information, number of questions completed, where you got your questions wrong, percent correct (from which we can infer the precise number of incorrect questions) and how you performed on each type of question (SC, CR, RC, DS, and PS), along with sub-scores for each sub-section. For the IR section, it will show you the percent you answered correctly.

I will definitely agree that there is a healthy dose of luck involved every time you take the GMAT. I find that my own scores (and those of my students) tend to range about 30-40 points in either direction from the average composite score, and that Quant and Verbal scores tend to vary about 3 points in either direction. This is especially true when the experimental ("pretest") questions are taken into account.

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Originally posted by mcelroytutoring on 15 Mar 2018, 09:52.
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Re: 710 to 770 in 2 weeks [#permalink]
mcelroytutoring wrote:
Are you sure you got a 9 on the IR the first time? The maximum score is an 8.

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oh yeah, 8 indeed :lol: I think I got lucky with that mark, in total honesty - I was so spaced out by the IR section and seriously flagging

Today's score breakdown is exactly the same as my last official mock, for which I got 11 quant incorrect, and 3 verbal. However I did complete the mock, and I didn't complete the last quant question of the exam, so i could have done a bit better overall and then got dinged for the missed last question, as I think incomplete penalises you more than incorrect. Guess I could order it to see how much skipping the final question "costs" you.

I think 3 OR 4 wrong in verbal can result in a v47, depending on if you get 4 hard wrong or 2 hard 1 easier. Either way, if you want to score high in verbal there is very little margin for error, and one extra incorrect verbal question will impact the overall score far more than quant. No room for careless mistakes on verbal.

I am generally pretty consistent across SC, CR and RC. My 3 wrong in the mock were one of each and I'd expect similar results today - if I got a 4th wrong it was probably SC
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Right. Keep in mind that on the actual test 1 out of 4 questions don't count (25.6% pretest questions), as opposed to the GMATPrep tests, where every question counts, so you probably got closer to 2 wrong on Verbal and around 4-7 wrong on Quant, out of the 58 counted questions. V47 is an amazing score that few test-takers are ever able to reach, which is a big part of what helped propel you to that 770!

We won't know for sure unless you order the ESR, but V47 lines up relatively consistently with 2 counted questions wrong, albeit with a small sample size given how high/rare the score is: https://gmatclub.com/forum/from-v46-to-v47-to-v40-to-v42-my-gmat-verbal-journey-with-esrs-254776.html
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Re: 710 to 770 in 2 weeks [#permalink]
If v47 is two wrong and v51 is none wrong then how do people score 48, 49 and 50? Quite a spread of scores for the same number of wrong questions (ie. 1)? I suspect the "test" questions do count...! I'll order the ESR I guess since v47 is so rare

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tinyinthedesert wrote:
If v47 is two wrong and v51 is none wrong then how do people score 48, 49 and 50? Quite a spread of scores for the same number of wrong questions (ie. 1)? I suspect the "test" questions do count...! I'll order the ESR I guess since v47 is so rare

Typically, 0 wrong is a 51, 1 wrong is a 48 and 2 wrong is a 47, but it's certainly possible that you could also score a 47 with 3 wrong. I don't think that scores of V49 and V50 are (currently) possible. I know--it's a steep drop off!
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