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"A carved flint object depicting a stylized human head with an open mouth was found in a Stone Age tomb in Ireland. Some archaeologists believe that the object was a weapon-the head of a warrior's mace-but it is too small for that purpose. Because of its size and the fact that an open mouth symbolizes speaking, the object was probably the head of a speaking staff, a communal object passed around a small assembly to indicate who has the right to speak.

Which one of the following, if true, would most weaken the argument?

(A) The tomb in which the object was found did not contain any other objects that might have been weapons.

(B) Communal objects were normally passed from one generation to the next in Stone Age Ireland."

(C) The object was carved with an artistry that was rare in Stone Age Ireland.

(D) The tomb in which the object was found was that of a politically prominent person.

(E) A speaking staff with a stone head is thought to symbolize a warrior's mace.

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Premise - A carved flint object depicting a stylized human head with an open mouth was found in a Stone Age tomb in Ireland.
Some archaeologists believe that the object was a weapon-the head of a warrior's mace-but it is too small for that purpose.

Conclusion - the object was probably the head of a speaking staff, a communal object passed around a small assembly to indicate who has the right to speak.


(A) The tomb in which the object was found did not contain any other objects that might have been weapons. - Strengthens.

(B) Communal objects were normally passed from one generation to the next in Stone Age Ireland." - HOLD.

(C) The object was carved with an artistry that was rare in Stone Age Ireland. - Irrelevant.

(D) The tomb in which the object was found was that of a politically prominent person. - Irrelevant.

(E) A speaking staff with a stone head is thought to symbolize a warrior's mace. - Strengthens.


Although B is the best of the lot by POE, but it doesn't weaken, since even though Communal objects were normally passed from one generation to the next, it can still be found in a tomb.
GMATNinja, GMATNinjaTwo, VeritasKarishma, broall, nightblade354, Can you please throw some light into this.

If we're asked which answer choice would most weaken the argument, the correct choice does NOT have to disprove the argument. It simply has to create more doubt about the argument than every other answer choice.

You've identified the conclusion properly, including a key detail: the speaking staff is a communal object.

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(B) Communal objects were normally passed from one generation to the next in Stone Age Ireland.

If (B) is true, then we normally wouldn't expect to see communal objects inside a tomb. Even if we expect to find a communal object in a tomb every now and then, this new information still weakens the conclusion, because it reduces the overall likelihood that this object was a communal object. That's is why we keep (B) around.

It seems like there's still a bit of doubt about choice (E), too. So let's take a look there, too:
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(E) A speaking staff with a stone head is thought to symbolize a warrior's mace.

Remember, the conclusion is that this object is the head of a speaking staff. We're concerned with what the object is, not what it symbolizes.

For instance, what if I told you that a speaking staff with a stone head is thought to symbolize a puppy's tail? Does this mean that the object is actually the tail of a young dog? If I revealed that a speaking staff with a stone head is thought to symbolize everlasting joy, this does not mean that the object is joy.

Absolutely no information about what this object symbolizes changes the fact that it remains the head of a speaking staff. That's why we eliminate (E).

(B) is definitely the best answer choice available. I hope this helps!
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Can anyone explain why b. I got the answer as E.

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Premise - A carved flint object depicting a stylized human head with an open mouth was found in a Stone Age tomb in Ireland.
Some archaeologists believe that the object was a weapon-the head of a warrior's mace-but it is too small for that purpose.

Conclusion - the object was probably the head of a speaking staff, a communal object passed around a small assembly to indicate who has the right to speak.


(A) The tomb in which the object was found did not contain any other objects that might have been weapons. - Strengthens.

(B) Communal objects were normally passed from one generation to the next in Stone Age Ireland." - HOLD.

(C) The object was carved with an artistry that was rare in Stone Age Ireland. - Irrelevant.

(D) The tomb in which the object was found was that of a politically prominent person. - Irrelevant.

(E) A speaking staff with a stone head is thought to symbolize a warrior's mace. - Strengthens.


Although B is the best of the lot by POE, but it doesn't weaken, since even though Communal objects were normally passed from one generation to the next, it can still be found in a tomb.
GMATNinja, GMATNinjaTwo, VeritasKarishma, broall, nightblade354, Can you please throw some light into this.
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I think E actaully weakens it.

Object found --> could be warrior mace but small.

Conclusion: not warrior mace.So probably head of speaking staff.

E.Stone head --> a symbol of warrior mace .

Conclusion fails.

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souvonik2k wrote:
Premise - A carved flint object depicting a stylized human head with an open mouth was found in a Stone Age tomb in Ireland.
Some archaeologists believe that the object was a weapon-the head of a warrior's mace-but it is too small for that purpose.

Conclusion - the object was probably the head of a speaking staff, a communal object passed around a small assembly to indicate who has the right to speak.


(A) The tomb in which the object was found did not contain any other objects that might have been weapons. - Strengthens.

(B) Communal objects were normally passed from one generation to the next in Stone Age Ireland." - HOLD.

(C) The object was carved with an artistry that was rare in Stone Age Ireland. - Irrelevant.

(D) The tomb in which the object was found was that of a politically prominent person. - Irrelevant.

(E) A speaking staff with a stone head is thought to symbolize a warrior's mace. - Strengthens.


Although B is the best of the lot by POE, but it doesn't weaken, since even though Communal objects were normally passed from one generation to the next, it can still be found in a tomb.
GMATNinja, broall, nightblade354, Can you please throw some light into this.


Hi, I've one doubt that we have already been told that "communal object passed around a small assembly to indicate who has the right to speak" and option B just changing its definition, What I understood from " assembly" is an ongoing meeting or like parliament assembly, anything whose scope is limited to present time

But, if we think of a communal object as a something which passes from one generation to other , then Option B is right, as we have been told at the start of a premise that object is found in Tomb and our Conclusion is " Flint is a communal object, which passes from one generation or person to other" then what was the fun of kepting it in tomb that's how it weakens the conclusion ( Flint is a communal object)
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In my opinion:

The conclusion is that the object found indicates the right to speak of speaking staff. If (B) "these objects were normally passed from one generation to the next in Stone Age Ireland" then the object should not be found there. So, this choice undermines the author conclusion.

As far as concerned to alternative (E), "a speaking staff with a stone head is thought to symbolize a warrior's mace": it is not the same to say "symbolize" than "identify", "is", or "signalized that it is". A speaking staff with a stone head could symbolize a warrior's mace, but IS NOT/DOES NOT IDENTIFY/DOES NOT SIGNALIZED THAT IT IS a warrior's mace.
Also, do not forget that wakeners make the conclusion more likely to follow from the evidence. Letter (E) does not attack the conclusion, it attacks the premise.
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A carved flint object depicting a stylized human head with an open mouth was found in a Stone Age tomb in Ireland. Some archaeologists believe that the object was a weapon-the head of a warrior's mace-but it is too small for that purpose. Because of its size and the fact that an open mouth symbolizes speaking, the object was probably the head of a speaking staff, a communal object passed around a small assembly to indicate who has the right to speak.

Premise: the object is a communal object.
Weaken: If Communal objects were normally passed from one generation to the next in Stone Age Ireland, then the flint object would not have been kept in the tomb.


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nightblade354, could you help out with this question? Thanks.
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Here is the OE: https://forum.powerscore.com/lsat/viewtopic.php?t=6827
and: https://www.manhattanprep.com/lsat/foru ... t9166.html

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If this is still insufficient, I will take a crack at solving it.
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