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A cricketer trying to predict the outcome of the one day world cup match in 1996 between the experienced Pakistan and the upstart Bangladesh, probably would have chosen the then invincible Pakistan by an odds of 10/1 and been quite wrong

A.have chosen the then invincible Pakistan by an odds of 10/1 and been quite wrong

B. have chosen that it would be the then invincible Pakistan by an odds of 10/1 and be quite wrong

C. choose the then invincible Pakistan by an odds of 10/1 and been quite wrong

D.choose the then invincible Pakistan by an odds of 10/1 and be quite wrong

E. choose in favor of the then invincible Pakistan by an odds of 10/1 and been quite wrong


Plz explain more about usage b/w would choose vs would have choosen ? meaning & when to use which usage

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A cricketer trying to predict the outcome of the one day world cup match in 1996 between the experienced Pakistan and the upstart Bangladesh, probably would have chosen the then invincible Pakistan by an odds of 10/1 and been quite wrong

A.have chosen the then invincible Pakistan by an odds of 10/1 and been quite wrong

B. have chosen that it would be the then invincible Pakistan by an odds of 10/1 and be quite wrong

C. choose the then invincible Pakistan by an odds of 10/1 and been quite wrong

D.choose the then invincible Pakistan by an odds of 10/1 and be quite wrong

E. choose in favor of the then invincible Pakistan by an odds of 10/1 and been quite wrong


Plz explain more about usage b/w would choose vs would have choosen ? meaning & when to use which usage


Hi aimkp, Request you to please follow verbal form rules while posting questions (My signature has the link to the rules)

Would is used when we are sure about a certain outcome
Would have is used for past events where a element of doubt/speculation exists : He would have completed his home work --> It is likely that he would have done his homework but we are NOT sure about the possibility.
Similar to the situation in this sentence where the author is trying to guess/guage which country the cricketer might have picked . Hence C,D ,E can be eliminated
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New post 17 Nov 2015, 16:08
IMO
very awkward sentence
In short, the subject "A cricketer" would have chosen that it would be the then invincible Pakistan by an odds of 10/1 and be quite wrong..
sounds very bad. one must ignore all the jazz after cricketer because its a noun modifier and if one does, the above sentence is what we end up with.
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Are you sure B is the correct answer? Would have chosen and would be cannot be right.
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A cricketer trying to predict the outcome of the one day world cup match in 1996 between the experienced Pakistan and the upstart Bangladesh, probably would have chosen the then invincible Pakistan by an odds of 10/1 and been quite wrong

A. have chosen the then invincible Pakistan by an odds of 10/1 and been quite wrong

B. have chosen that it would be the then invincible Pakistan by an odds of 10/1 and be quite wrong

C. choose the then invincible Pakistan by an odds of 10/1 and been quite wrong

D. choose the then invincible Pakistan by an odds of 10/1 and be quite wrong

E. choose in favor of the then invincible Pakistan by an odds of 10/1 and been quite wrong
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A cricketer trying to predict the outcome of the one day world cup match in 1996 between the experienced Pakistan and the upstart Bangladesh, probably would have chosen the then invincible Pakistan by an odds of 10/1 and been quite wrong

A. have chosen the then invincible Pakistan by an odds of 10/1 and been quite wrong

B. have chosen that it would be the then invincible Pakistan by an odds of 10/1 and be quite wrong

C. choose the then invincible Pakistan by an odds of 10/1 and been quite wrong

D. choose the then invincible Pakistan by an odds of 10/1 and be quite wrong

E. choose in favor of the then invincible Pakistan by an odds of 10/1 and been quite wrong


Hi,

would Vs would have...
Here 'would have ' is appropriate...
'would have' is a past modal verbs used hypothetically, to talk about things that didn't really happen in the past...
the cricketer would have done the act of thinking of future/outcome of the game prior to start of the game..

so A and B are left..
Both do not seem to be perfect or even very close to being correct..

A. have chosen the then invincible Pakistan by an odds of 10/1 and been quite wrong...
here the flaw..
i) been is parallel to chosen...
so the sentence reads.. a cricketer would have chosen.... and been quite wrong......
I think the cricketer would be wrong only after he has chosen but the sentence shows the simultaenous and independent activities..

A. have chosen the then invincible Pakistan by an odds of 10/1 and been quite wrong
i) use of ambiguous 'it'
ii) same as in A..

the main flaw is .. "probabily he would have chosen..... but he cannot "probabily be quite wrong" because the event is up and we know he is wrong...."

the sentence could have been better if written...
A cricketer.............................., would have probabily chosen ..... and would have quite wrong by doing so.
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A seems to be the correct one

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A cricketer trying to predict the outcome of the one day world cup match in 1996 between the experienced Pakistan and the upstart Bangladesh, probably would have chosen the then invincible Pakistan by an odds of 10/1 and been quite wrong

A. have chosen the then invincible Pakistan by an odds of 10/1 and been quite wrong

B. have chosen that it would be the then invincible Pakistan by an odds of 10/1 and be quite wrong

C. choose the then invincible Pakistan by an odds of 10/1 and been quite wrong

D. choose the then invincible Pakistan by an odds of 10/1 and be quite wrong

E. choose in favor of the then invincible Pakistan by an odds of 10/1 and been quite wrong


Hi souvik101990

Since 'would have' already implies a hypothetical situation, is 'probably' really needed? It seems to be redundant.

Also, as chetan2u mentioned, 'it' in B has no apparent antecedent. Pls comment on that.

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souvik101990 wrote:
A cricketer trying to predict the outcome of the one day world cup match in 1996 between the experienced Pakistan and the upstart Bangladesh, probably would have chosen the then invincible Pakistan by an odds of 10/1 and been quite wrong

A. have chosen the then invincible Pakistan by an odds of 10/1 and been quite wrong

B. have chosen that it would be the then invincible Pakistan by an odds of 10/1 and be quite wrong

C. choose the then invincible Pakistan by an odds of 10/1 and been quite wrong

D. choose the then invincible Pakistan by an odds of 10/1 and be quite wrong

E. choose in favor of the then invincible Pakistan by an odds of 10/1 and been quite wrong


Hi souvik101990

Since 'would have' already implies a hypothetical situation, is 'probably' really needed? It seems to be redundant.

Also, as chetan2u mentioned, 'it' in B has no apparent antecedent. Pls comment on that.

Thanks.

Yes i agree. I chose A but OA is B. But in B what is an antecedent of "it"? Outcome? But this makes sentence illogical
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Why B? Experts, please explain.
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Why B? Experts, please explain.


Tough tense question - think in two steps:

1. Ignore the hypothetical "would" for the time being and consider that the things happen in the past - two events: a. choose Pakistan, b. be wrong - first the "choosing" happens and thereafter the "being wrong". (The result of the match came after the choosing - before the match ends, it cannot be said that he was wrong.) The sentence would then be:
A cricketer had chosen (perfect) Pakistan and was (simple) wrong.

2. Now consider that the entire sequence is hypothetical - "would" needs to be added to the tenses: "had chosen" becomes "would have chosen" and "was" becomes "would be". Thus the correct sentence is:
A cricketer would have chosen (perfect) Pakistan and would be (simple) wrong.
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