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Can you please explain how E is correct in term of how the option uses the correct parallel form. ? And, which are the parallel elements in this comparison. ?
E) uses at speeds much higher than are currently possible. . Shouldn't it be at speeds much higher than speeds currently possible. . I am confused with the are here. I believe the sentence should have had a verb form of "TO BE" in the first part of the comparison.

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According to analysts, an alliance between three major personal computer companies and most of the nation’s largest local telephone companies would enable customers to receive Internet data over regular telephone lines with speeds much higher than is currently possible.

A. with speeds much higher than is
B. with speeds that are much higher than are
C. at much higher speeds as are
D. at much higher speeds than that
E. at speeds much higher than are



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You receive data AT high speed i.e. lots of data per second rather than WITH high speed. 'With' doesn't make sense here. You don't get speed with the data.
Also, the use of 'speeds' shows that you can receive data at various speeds and the alliance could increase these speeds. So the usage of plural 'are' is correct. So (E) is fine.
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What's the problem with option 'D'?


'that' - singular; 'speeds' - plural
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According to analysts, an alliance between three major personal computer companies and most of the nation’s largest local telephone companies would enable customers to receive internet data over regular telephone lines with speeds much higher than is currently possible.

A. with speeds much higher than is
B. with speeds that are much higher than are
C. at much higher speeds as are
D. at much higher speeds than that
E. at speeds much higher than are


Idiom:
receive data at speeds --> correct
receive date with speeds --> wrong.

According to analysts, an alliance between three major personal computer companies and most of the nation’s largest local telephone companies would enable customers to receive internet data over regular telephone lines with speeds much higher than is currently possible

A. with speeds much higher than is
Wrong. "with speeds" is wrong. In addition, "speeds" is plural --> "is" is wrong

B. with speeds that are much higher than are
Wrong. "with speeds" is wrong.

C. at much higher speeds as are
Wrong. "higher + as" is wrong.

D. at much higher speeds than that
Wrong. "speeds" is plural --> "that" refers to singular --> wrong comparison.

E. at speeds much higher than are
Correct.

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eybrj2 wrote:
According to analysts, an alliance between three major personal computer companies and most of the nation’s largest local telephone companies would enable customers to receive internet data over regular telephone lines with speeds much higher than is currently possible.

A. with speeds much higher than is
B. with speeds that are much higher than are
C. at much higher speeds as are
D. at much higher speeds than that
E. at speeds much higher than are


Idiom:
receive data at speeds --> correct
receive date with speeds --> wrong.

According to analysts, an alliance between three major personal computer companies and most of the nation’s largest local telephone companies would enable customers to receive internet data over regular telephone lines with speeds much higher than is currently possible

A. with speeds much higher than is
Wrong. "with speeds" is wrong. In addition, "speeds" is plural --> "is" is wrong

B. with speeds that are much higher than are
Wrong. "with speeds" is wrong.

C. at much higher speeds as are
Wrong. "higher + as" is wrong.

D. at much higher speeds than that
Wrong. "speeds" is plural --> "that" refers to singular --> wrong comparison.

E. at speeds much higher than are
Correct.

Hope it helps.


Thanks for the reply!
I have a doubt regarding "that" always referring to plural.
But let me put one sentence :
"Dr Lees's degree allows him to diagnose ear , nose and throat diseases that he cures for very little fee".
As per my knowledge this sentence is correct.
But at the same time "that" here refers to diseases. Could you please explain? Am I wrong anywhere ?

Also, for (e) :

According to analysts, an alliance between three major personal computer companies and most of the nation’s largest local telephone companies would enable customers to receive internet data over regular telephone lines at speeds much higher than are currently possible.
In this sentence which part is exactly parallel to" at speeds much higher than are"

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pqhai wrote:
eybrj2 wrote:
According to analysts, an alliance between three major personal computer companies and most of the nation’s largest local telephone companies would enable customers to receive internet data over regular telephone lines with speeds much higher than is currently possible.

A. with speeds much higher than is
B. with speeds that are much higher than are
C. at much higher speeds as are
D. at much higher speeds than that
E. at speeds much higher than are


Idiom:
receive data at speeds --> correct
receive date with speeds --> wrong.

According to analysts, an alliance between three major personal computer companies and most of the nation’s largest local telephone companies would enable customers to receive internet data over regular telephone lines with speeds much higher than is currently possible

A. with speeds much higher than is
Wrong. "with speeds" is wrong. In addition, "speeds" is plural --> "is" is wrong

B. with speeds that are much higher than are
Wrong. "with speeds" is wrong.

C. at much higher speeds as are
Wrong. "higher + as" is wrong.

D. at much higher speeds than that
Wrong. "speeds" is plural --> "that" refers to singular --> wrong comparison.

E. at speeds much higher than are
Correct.

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Thanks for the reply!
I have a doubt regarding "that" always referring to plural.
But let me put one sentence :
"Dr Lees's degree allows him to diagnose ear , nose and throat diseases that he cures for very little fee".
As per my knowledge this sentence is correct.
But at the same time "that" here refers to diseases. Could you please explain? Am I wrong anywhere ?

Also, for (e) :

According to analysts, an alliance between three major personal computer companies and most of the nation’s largest local telephone companies would enable customers to receive internet data over regular telephone lines at speeds much higher than are currently possible.
In this sentence which part is exactly parallel to" at speeds much higher than are"

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Hi practicegmat.

The two "that" are different. The one in the question is "demonstrative pronoun". The one in your example is "relative pronoun".

* Demonstrative pronoun can function by themselves as substitutes for specific nouns / antecedents. ==> The parallel nature must be maintained.
For example:
WRONG: The books I borrowed at the library yesterday are similar to THAT of your. "books" - plural is not parallel to "that" which refers to singular antecedent.
CORRECT: The books I borrowed at the library yesterday are similar to THOSE of your.

*Relative pronoun is used to introduce one type of subordinate clause called a relative clause
"that" modifies the preceding noun/noun phrase. It does not matter the preceding noun/noun phrase is singular or plural.
For example:
CORRECT: The cars THAT have introduced in the auto show are very expensive.

Hope it's clear.
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Thanks pqhai for the great explanation! I got it.
Could you also answer to my next question :

For (e) :

According to analysts, an alliance between three major personal computer companies and most of the nation’s largest local telephone companies would enable customers to receive internet data over regular telephone lines at speeds much higher than are currently possible.
In this sentence which part is exactly parallel to" at speeds much higher than are"

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Thanks pqhai for the great explanation! I got it.
Could you also answer to my next question :

For (e) :

According to analysts, an alliance between three major personal computer companies and most of the nation’s largest local telephone companies would enable customers to receive internet data over regular telephone lines at speeds much higher than are currently possible.
In this sentence which part is exactly parallel to" at speeds much higher than are"

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Hi practicegmat.

I think your question should be: what is comparing in the structure "at speeds much higher than are"? Because the phrase "at speeds much higher than are" is not parallel to anything.

The structure is: customers receive data at speeds much higher than are currently possible
Subject: customers
Verb: receive
Object: speeds.
Modifier: much higher than are currently possible.
==> The sentence could be rewritten like: The structure is: customers receive data at speeds much higher than [speeds] are currently possible
==> "new" speeds is comparing with "speeds are currently possible"

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Thanks pqhai for the great explanation! I got it.
Could you also answer to my next question :

For (e) :

According to analysts, an alliance between three major personal computer companies and most of the nation’s largest local telephone companies would enable customers to receive internet data over regular telephone lines at speeds much higher than are currently possible.
In this sentence which part is exactly parallel to" at speeds much higher than are"

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Hi Practice gmat,

I think in this case "at speeds much higher than are" you are confused because the verb "are" does not parallel to any precedding verb.

From my understanding, the sentence can be rewritten as: " Customers receive internet data at speeds (which are) much higher than (speeds) are currently possible.

Two phrases between the blankets are omitted without distorting the meaning of the sentence.

Hope it's clear.

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According to analysts, an alliance between three major personal computer companies and most of the nation’s largest local telephone companies would enable customers to receive internet data over regular telephone lines with speeds much higher than is currently possible.

A. with speeds much higher than is
B. with speeds that are much higher than are
C. at much higher speeds as are
D. at much higher speeds than that
E. at speeds much higher than are


I agree that E is best
but in E, there is no "is, are" at the firt half of comparision, I can not use "are" at the latter half.

unless you show a og question in which is pattern appears in oa, this question is considered good. otherwise. this is wrong question
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According to analysts, an alliance between three major personal computer companies and most of the nation’s largest local telephone companies would enable customers to receive Internet data over regular telephone lines with speeds much higher than is currently possible.

A. with speeds much higher than is
'With....' modifies telephone lines. illogical
B. with speeds that are much higher than are
Same as (A)
C. at much higher speeds as are
'Higher' anticipates use of 'than'
D. at much higher speeds than that
Speeds are plural so cannot use 'that'
E. at speeds much higher than are
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According to analysts, an alliance between three major personal computer companies and most of the nation’s largest local telephone companies would enable customers to receive Internet data over regular telephone lines with speeds much higher than is currently possible.

A. with speeds much higher than is - With is modifying telephone lines , Illogical construction
B. with speeds that are much higher than are - With is modifying telephone lines , Illogical construction
C. at much higher speeds as are - X higher THAN Y - is the correct idiom
D. at much higher speeds than that - here that starts a new clause, in which that is the subject but no verb exist
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if speeds is plural and countable. here why is it using much- uncountable ????

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if speeds is plural and countable. here why is it using much- uncountable ????


much is modifying "higher" here, not speeds.

Does this make sense: at speeds many higher than ...?

That tower is higher than this tower.
That tower is much higher than this tower.
"much" tells you how much higher the tower is.
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According to analysts, an alliance between three major personal computer companies and most of the nation’s largest local telephone companies would enable customers to receive Internet data over regular telephone lines with speeds much higher than is currently possible.


this question tests comparison concepts

A. with speeds much higher than is
with speeds modifies telephone lines. it also has a SV error. instead of "is" must be "are", because the subject the verb associates is speeds.

B. with speeds that are much higher than are
same error as in A. with speeds - meaning error

C. at much higher speeds as are
although it corrects the meaning error present in A and B, it introduces another error. the correct comparison is much higher than but not much higher as

D. at much higher speeds than that
corrects the meaning error, but relative pronoun that does not have a clear antecedent.

E. at speeds much higher than are
corrects the meaning error
comparison idiom is correctly used
verb agrees in number with the subject.

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What's the problem with option 'D'?


'that' - singular; 'speeds' - plural

I must disagree. I am no expert in grammar but "that" doesn't attach itself to singular elements alone.

For eg:
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Is "with" always modifying the preceding noun? Comparable to "which"?

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