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I also received an Enhanced report. The results are completely opposite to that of E-gmat. Especially SC in which I normally score 85-90%.
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Since the last post have been doing GMATprep only. Tried to completely forgot about E-GMAT`s format
Averaged the following scores in verbal :
SC ~90%
CR ~90%
RC ~80-85%

Today purchased Exam Pack1 and did the 1st exam. The quant was quite tough. Even toughter than the real thing. Scored Q47 -really bad.
Verbal tough too. Worse than the original Gmat prep. Especially in CR and SC. However scored V40 and got 10 min free time (several overlaps did exist in CR, however I did not remember the answers)
Overall : 710
SC 76% right
CR 63%
RC 84%

On Monday will write the second exam and on Tuesday - the real one.Will keep you informed. Will be happy to hear any suggestions.
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Hi Kreol,

There is nothing to be gained by taking a CAT the day before your GMAT (and you're far more likely to tire yourself out before Test Day than if you just do some light review).

This weekend, you shouldn't try to 'cram' in too much. Since your focus has been on the Verbal section for the last couple of months, you should review those concepts (grammar rules, CR 'logic patterns', etc.) and do a bit of additional practice - redoing older questions that you've gotten wrong, etc. (but nothing too difficult).

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Hi Kreol,

There is nothing to be gained by taking a CAT the day before your GMAT (and you're far more likely to tire yourself out before Test Day than if you just do some light review).

This weekend, you shouldn't try to 'cram' in too much. Since your focus has been on the Verbal section for the last couple of months, you should review those concepts (grammar rules, CR 'logic patterns', etc.) and do a bit of additional practice - redoing older questions that you've gotten wrong, etc. (but nothing too difficult).

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Thanks for fast response, EMPOWER !

I actually wanted to ask you about the recent trend of very low verbal scores on the real exam. I have seen an increased number of topics on this (you have just replied to one of them) and other forums in which test takers mention that they
had high verbal score but received a disproportionally low one on the real exam ( like V40-45 --> V20-25). I am among these people and I personally think that maybe GMAC is in the process of
updating its questions or this trend is somehow related to the experimental questions ? Since you have an extensive experience in gmat, maybe you could share you thoughts ?

p.s Please note that this happens for verbal section only !

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Hi Kreol,

You ask an important question, although the answer will vary somewhat from Test Taker to Test Taker, and each answer is a combination of a lot of detailed 'pieces.' Without going into every little detail, here are the major issues:

1) The realism with which each Test Taker works through his/her CATs. Test Day is a specific 'event', made up of specific details that you CAN define... so you SHOULD be able to prepare for them. Most Test Takers don't consider the details (much less properly train to deal with those details), thus they are not properly prepared for Test Day.

2) There are a number of lower-quality products on the market that a certain number of Test Takers use; that lack of quality/realism impacts practice scores and gives a false sense of readiness.

3) The Verbal section of the GMAT is just as predictable and pattern-based as the Quant section is, although any Test Takers find it easier to deal with Quant patterns than Verbal patterns. For example, the process that you go through to calculate 1+2 is the same general process that you go through to calculate 123+456 (it's just a little more work to do the second calculation and the digits are different). In that same way, the logic behind 'X causes Y' in a CR prompt is the same as the logic behind 'A causes B.' You just might have to do a little more work to sort through the details because the words are different.

This is all meant to say that you CAN train to score at a higher level in ALL areas of the GMAT, but a certain responsibility falls on the Test Taker to train in the proper way.

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Hi Kreol,

You ask an important question, although the answer will vary somewhat from Test Taker to Test Taker, and each answer is a combination of a lot of detailed 'pieces.' Without going into every little detail, here are the major issues:

1) The realism with which each Test Taker works through his/her CATs. Test Day is a specific 'event', made up of specific details that you CAN define... so you SHOULD be able to prepare for them. Most Test Takers don't consider the details (much less properly train to deal with those details), thus they are not properly prepared for Test Day.

2) There are a number of lower-quality products on the market that a certain number of Test Takers use; that lack of quality/realism impacts practice scores and gives a false sense of readiness.

3) The Verbal section of the GMAT is just as predictable and pattern-based as the Quant section is, although any Test Takers find it easier to deal with Quant patterns than Verbal patterns. For example, the process that you go through to calculate 1+2 is the same general process that you go through to calculate 123+456 (it's just a little more work to do the second calculation and the digits are different). In that same way, the logic behind 'X causes Y' in a CR prompt is the same as the logic behind 'A causes B.' You just might have to do a little more work to sort through the details because the words are different.

This is all meant to say that you CAN train to score at a higher level in ALL areas of the GMAT, but a certain responsibility falls on the Test Taker to train in the proper way.

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Dear EMPOWER,

Really comprehensive answer, thank you. But logically a question arises: (for 1) and 2) ) why then the quant performance remains almost the same and why (for 3rd statement ) the official mock scores are still high ?
If one is not able to cope with verbal (can not recognize verbal patterns) then his scores would be low on the mock would not they ? And if one gets nervous on the real exam then the quant part should suffer too.
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Hi Kreol,

You ask some good follow-up questions. In both cases, the primary issue often comes down to fatigue and endurance skills. The Verbal section is the final 75 minutes of a 4-hour Exam. Since you're not going to start the Verbal section until almost 3 full hours have gone by, almost everyone is tired by that point (and tired brains make bad decision - including missing details, not taking notes, randomly guessing when the correct answer is just one or two more 'steps' away, etc.). That issue can be compounded by the little 'details' that most Test Takers don't account for during their studies.

How long does it take you to get the Testing Center on Test Day and enter the waiting area? 30 minutes? 45 minutes? An hour or more? Well, then you've just added another 30-60+ minutes to the day's activities BEFORE you start the Exam. Energy must be spent and all of that nervous energy (that you would focus into your CAT work) could be 'wasted' before the GMAT even begins. In this way, you'll be further 'depleted' by the time you start the Verbal section. Most Test Takers do not experience ANY of that when they take their practice CATs, so they're not prepared for it when it occurs on Test Day.

Since Quant questions are generally less 'wordy' than Verbal questions, it's often easier/faster to assess the concepts that are being tested in Quant questions than in Verbal questions (and again, you're likely more 'alert' and have more energy when the Quant section starts). So big Quant 'drops' are less likely to happen.

To reiterate, you CAN train for all of these details during your studies, but it takes a high commitment to the task.

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Despite EMPOWERs advice, I eventually took the last Gmatprep exam today since I feel like I need to get used to the gmat format.
Scored 720 Q50V38
In verbal got 2 mistakes less than in the previous exam but the overall percentile is 6% less because of the sequence.
Morally preparing myself for a disaster tomorrow as it took place before...
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Scored 660 (Q50V30)....
My history :
GMATprep1 690
GMATprep 2 700
GMAT 1 560 (Q48V26)
GMAT 2 670 (Q48V34)
GMAT 3 650 (Q50V27)
GMATprep 3 710 Q47V40
GMATprep 4 720 Q50V38
GMAT 4 660 (Q50V30)

I am done with GMAT. Dear experts, is it worth applying to top schools (sloan, princeton ?) or better not to waste money ? If yes, then which score to report : that with higher overall score or with higher quant ? I am aiming at Masters in Finance.
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Hi Kreol,

First off, a 660/Q50 is still a strong score (it's right around the 80th percentile overall), so it could be enough to get you into your first-choice School. You're ultimately asking Admissions questions though, so you would likely find it beneficial to speak with an Admissions Expert about your overall profile. There's a Forum full of them here:

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Hi Kreol,

First off, a 660/Q50 is still a strong score (it's right around the 80th percentile overall), so it could be enough to get you into your first-choice School. You're ultimately asking Admissions questions though, so you would likely find it beneficial to speak with an Admissions Expert about your overall profile. There's a Forum full of them here:

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Dear EMPOWER,

Thanks for reply. So you think that it is better to report 660 with higher quant, rather then 670 ?
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Hi Kreol,

THAT is a question that is better answered by an Admissions Expert. Many Business School Programs tend to put a greater emphasis on the Quant Scaled Score though, so it would not surprise me if an Admissions Expert advised that you submit the 660/Q50.

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