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I'm no expert on the financial services industry, but just to throw it out there, have you considered equity research focusing on the technology industry? I know this has been battered as well, but perhaps your technology industry knowledge will give you a leg up (or at least in the eyes of the adcom).

I've read about people transitioning from equity research to sell-side/buy-side. And the CFA is valuable in both afaik.
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I'm no expert on the financial services industry, but just to throw it out there, have you considered equity research focusing on the technology industry? I know this has been battered as well, but perhaps your technology industry knowledge will give you a leg up (or at least in the eyes of the adcom).

I've read about people transitioning from equity research to sell-side/buy-side. And the CFA is valuable in both afaik.


I am in a similar boat. I have a question...I'm taking the CFA level 1 in december'09. Can I mention that as an initiative I'm taking to learn the ropes in IM?
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Along those same lines..how is "being enrolled in the CFA program (i.e. test is coming up after app deadlines)," looked at by adcoms compared to "I passed level 1 already?"
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my boat seems to be worst
engg trying to switch gear..~!@!
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I'm jumping on the IM train as well... career switching from consulting. I don't think it will be viewed negatively. I mean, I don't think anyone sees pure investment management going anywhere, there will always be a need for that. I'd say ppl looking to go into I. banking will have a much harder time justifying that since that industry likely will change a lot. But then again, i'm not sure anyone really says "i want to do i.banking after an mba" in their apps anyway... do they??

My struggle was to decide how specific I want to be in essays. I have a very specific idea what I want to do (down to a list of about 3/4 firms), but i'm not sure whether its worth mentioning that much detail? Anyone have thoughts on this?

I'd definitely mention if you're planning to sit cfa. I just got thru level II and am mentioning that i'm planning to take III next yr. Even if you haven't passed any yet, it shows that you have a plan, and are beginning to shift your career accordingly.
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I'm jumping on the IM train as well... career switching from consulting. I don't think it will be viewed negatively. I mean, I don't think anyone sees pure investment management going anywhere, there will always be a need for that. I'd say ppl looking to go into I. banking will have a much harder time justifying that since that industry likely will change a lot. But then again, i'm not sure anyone really says "i want to do i.banking after an mba" in their apps anyway... do they??

My struggle was to decide how specific I want to be in essays. I have a very specific idea what I want to do (down to a list of about 3/4 firms), but i'm not sure whether its worth mentioning that much detail? Anyone have thoughts on this?

I'd definitely mention if you're planning to sit cfa. I just got thru level II and am mentioning that i'm planning to take III next yr. Even if you haven't passed any yet, it shows that you have a plan, and are beginning to shift your career accordingly.

I didnt mention company names but yes i did specify a very clear path for the next 10 years..I think that sorta helped...well atleast thats wht my interviewr at K told me...
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And since we're on the topic, I was thinking yesterday, "Why can't I do a CFA and get into IM? Do I really need an MBA"?
Anyone has input on this?
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MBA = Networking + Branding + others goodies :twisted:

Espc in this market, networking and brand name will go a long way for career switchers. End of the day, CFA is just 3 levels of exams that needs to be addressed. I am not sure if a non-finance person can learn skills sets by cramming cfa books. Now, if one is preparing for CFA alongside a job which revolves around related areas, its a different ball game.

On a side note, a lot of CFA Level II and III revolves around fixed income and derivatives. Given the current scenario, i feel a lot of it has lost relevance and the course does need a overhaul.

Disclaimer - I am a finance professional not a CFA thou.

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And since we're on the topic, I was thinking yesterday, "Why can't I do a CFA and get into IM? Do I really need an MBA"?
Anyone has input on this?
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That helps a lot, man. Thanks for clearing the air. I just needed to reinforce it into my mind.
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On a side note, a lot of CFA Level II and III revolves around fixed income and derivatives. Given the current scenario, i feel a lot of it has lost relevance and the course does need a overhaul.

But fixed income isn't going away any time soon, and arguably they need more on derivatives as they clearly weren't well enough understood by people. Derivatives will be back in force in a few years - same as after the S&L crisis, the Emerging markets etc...
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Yeah, I've thought a lot about the mba v. cfa thing. I think it comes down to different skill sets. I expect cfa is more rigorous than b-school in terms of the analytical / computational requirements... it is a ton of material and there's no getting around that. But I'm not going to learn how to manage a research team or pitch to an investment committee from cfa. For those "softer" skills, I think I need an mba. In terms of career trajectory, I guess it's a toss up. Some industries seem to not care at all whether you're an mba, and in fact they probably prefer hiring cfa's who can be paid slightly less than the typical mba (at least to start with ;) But there's def something to be said for the schools with strong networks if you're looking to career switch. I'm hoping to get both: the b-school network to get me an interview, and the cfa to convey that i can do the analysis. That said... i just got my Level III books in the mail and am dreading having to open them up. Damn, it feels like it just ended.
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How is starting an investment club and managing a fund created by money from members treated by the adcom?
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I am looking to make the transition from sell-side to buy-side. I passed L1 CFA in June and will sit for LII next June. A lot of people like to play the CFA v. MBA game but really they are compliments, not substitutes (for most). As someone mentioned the CFA program is just another stamp of approval, maybe the tie-breaker for an interview. For me it was an undertaking both to boost my understanding and also demonstrate quantitative ability despite my liberal arts degree. I've heard it largely covers the first year of a finance intensive MBA so I'm hoping to focus that first year on the real value of an MBA program...the networking.