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What does "it" refer to in B ? what if instead of "it" would be "this" in B ? :?

isn't it whole sentence construction ambiguous - be it "it' or "this"

what does "it" refer to ? isn't it better to use a specific noun instead of "it" :?

B) Because the new maritime code provides that even tiny islets can be the basis for claims to the fisheries and oil fields of large sea areas, this initiative has already
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Hey dave13 ,

"It" in B is referring to the new maritime code.

You need to understand the following construction:

Because Clause 1, Independent Clause 2

Here the Subject of the independent clause 2 refers to the subject of the Clause 1.

In the given question,

Clause 1 : Because the new maritime code(Subject) provides that even tiny islets can be the basis for claims to the fisheries and oil fields of large sea areas

Independent Clause 2: It(Subject) has already stimulated

Therefore, "It" is referring back to the code.

Does that make sense?
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dave13 wrote:
What does "it" refer to in B ? what if instead of "it" would be "this" in B ? :?

isn't it whole sentence construction ambiguous - be it "it' or "this"

what does "it" refer to ? isn't it better to use a specific noun instead of "it" :?

B) Because the new maritime code provides that even tiny islets can be the basis for claims to the fisheries and oil fields of large sea areas, this initiative has already
stimulated


Hey dave13 ,

"It" in B is referring to the new maritime code.

You need to understand the following construction:

Because Clause 1, Independent Clause 2

Here the Subject of the independent clause 2 refers to the subject of the Clause 1.

In the given question,

Clause 1 : Because the new maritime code(Subject) provides that even tiny islets can be the basis for claims to the fisheries and oil fields of large sea areas

Independent Clause 2: It(Subject) has already stimulated

Therefore, "It" is referring back to the code.

Does that make sense?


Maybe that's the part that am not clear on the new maritime code(Subject). I thought the new maritime code can't the be the subject because its part of a prepositional phrase. just like this example:

Without the judge knowing how to resolve the issue, he had no way to solve the case.
Even though John is tall, he is not good at basketball.

In both examples above are"Judge" and "John" subjects? or are they simply part of a prepositional phrase they can't be subjects?

This is what I am not clear on.
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Maybe that's the part that am not clear on the new maritime code(Subject). I thought the new maritime code can't the be the subject because its part of a prepositional phrase. just like this example:

Without the judge knowing how to resolve the issue, he had no way to solve the case.
Even though John is tall, he is not good at basketball.

In both examples above are"Judge" and "John" subjects? or are they simply part of a prepositional phrase they can't be subjects?

This is what I am not clear on.


Hey oasis90 ,

In both the examples you presented, Judge" and "John" are the subjects.

Also, I somehow feel you are not very clear on the difference between a phrase and a clause.

A phrase is either only subject but no verb OR only verb but no verb.

If you are unsure whether a group of words is a clause or phrase, break down the words into the parts of speech to help you decide. If there is a subject and a verb with a predicate, it is a clause. If there is a noun but no verb or a verb but no noun and does not have a predicate, it is a phrase.

Without the judge knowing how to resolve the issue ==> No Verb -- Hence a phrase.
Even though John is tall ==> Both Subject and a Verb -- Hence a clause (To be specific Independent Clause)

Does that make sense?
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oasis90 wrote:
Maybe that's the part that am not clear on the new maritime code(Subject). I thought the new maritime code can't the be the subject because its part of a prepositional phrase. just like this example:

Without the judge knowing how to resolve the issue, he had no way to solve the case.
Even though John is tall, he is not good at basketball.

In both examples above are"Judge" and "John" subjects? or are they simply part of a prepositional phrase they can't be subjects?

This is what I am not clear on.


Hey oasis90 ,

In both the examples you presented, Judge" and "John" are the subjects.

Also, I somehow feel you are not very clear on the difference between a phrase and a clause.

A phrase is either only subject but no verb OR only verb but no verb.

If you are unsure whether a group of words is a clause or phrase, break down the words into the parts of speech to help you decide. If there is a subject and a verb with a predicate, it is a clause. If there is a noun but no verb or a verb but no noun and does not have a predicate, it is a phrase.

Without the judge knowing how to resolve the issue ==> No Verb -- Hence a phrase.
Even though John is tall ==> Both Subject and a Verb -- Hence a clause (To be specific Independent Clause)

Does that make sense?


Hey ya thanks this is great. it makes more sense now.

I have another question that I posted here:
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Hi Experts, I think in A "that" could refer back to "provisions", so I don't think that's enough to mark A wrong. Could you please tell what other errors are in A? Thanks.


1. The pronoun "they" is ambiguous.
2. The usage "there are provisions of the new maritime code that provide" is wordy - the structure in B "the new maritime code provides" is more concise.


Hi sayantanc2k ,

Thanks for your response. Regarding the use of 'they' - GMAT usually parallel subjects of the clauses, but since in choice A there is a relative clause with subject "islets", and the main subject of the dependent clause is "there", 'they' in the following clause can't refer to 'provisions'. Is my understanding correct?

While in B, the subjects are parallel and "it" clearly refers to code.

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Because there are provisions of the new maritime code that provide that even tiny islets can be the basis for claims to the fisheries and oil fields of large sea areas, they have already stimulated international disputes over uninhabited islands.

(A) Because there are provisions of the new maritime code that provide that even tiny islets can be the basis for claims to the fisheries and oil fields of large sea areas, they have already stimulated

(B) Because the new maritime code provides that even tiny islets can be the basis for claims to the fisheries and oil fields of large sea areas, it has already stimulated




Just one doubt with the meaning of this question
Does the Code Provide that islets.....
Or
The provisions (in the code) that provide that ...........

I thought it was the provisions (in the M Code) and thus ruled A

Also, ...that provide that ....... is wrong? why ?


Can someone please explain
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A - Because there are provisions of the new maritime code that provide that even tiny islets can be the basis for claims to the fisheries and oil fields of large sea areas, they have already stimulated
i) Subject verb agreement - provisions (subject), provide (verb) - agreed
ii) Pronoun - they - ambiguous - thus, choice A is eliminated

B- Because the new maritime code provides that even tiny islets can be the basis for claims to the fisheries and oil fields of large sea areas, it has already stimulated
i) Subject verb agreement - Maritime Code (subject), provides (verb) - agreed
ii) Pronoun - it - here I am confused - pronoun should refer to subject of the previous clause - thus, logically it should refer to maritime code - if this is the case, meaning conveyed is maritime code has already stimulated disputes. But, I am unsure if provisions of maritime code have resulted in disputes or collection of provision to which we call - Code, has resulted in disputes. Obviously collection of all provisions = code. Apparently, no issue.

C- Even tiny islets can be the basis for claims to the fisheries and oil fields of large sea areas under provisions of the new maritime code, already stimulating
here ing modifier - stimulating - i.e. ing modifier after the comma should correctly modify the clause - i.e. subject as well as verb. In this option subject is 'tiny islets' and verb is 'can be basis'. Illogical usage of ing modifier, thus, option C is eliminated

D- Because even tiny islets can be the basis for claims to the fisheries and oil fields of large sea areas under provisions of the new maritime code, this has already stimulated
this - refers to entire action - pronoun cannot refer to action. Hence, D is eliminated.

E- Because even tiny islets can be the basis for claims to the fisheries and oil fields of large sea areas under provisions of the new maritime code, which is already stimulating
which correctly modifies maritime code, however, sentence begins with 'Because' which shall be followed by some verb for main subject - tiny islets...
Because X is something, Y is something... fullstop - correct
Because X is something, which is....fullstop - absolute wrong!

Hence, B is best answer.
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Because there are provisions of the new maritime code that provide that even tiny islets can be the basis for claims to the fisheries and oil fields of large sea areas, they have already stimulated international disputes over uninhabited islands.

(A) Because there are provisions of the new maritime code that provide that even tiny islets can be the basis for claims to the fisheries and oil fields of large sea areas, they have already stimulated

(B) Because the new maritime code provides that even tiny islets can be the basis for claims to the fisheries and oil fields of large sea areas, it has already stimulated

(C) Even tiny islets can be the basis for claims to the fisheries and oil fields of large sea areas under provisions of the new maritime code, already stimulating

(D) Because even tiny islets can be the basis for claims to the fisheries and oil fields of large sea areas under provisions of the new maritime code, this has already stimulated

(E) Because even tiny islets can be the basis for claims to the fisheries and oil fields of large sea areas under provisions of the new maritime code, which is already stimulating

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We might also note that in A, 'there' is not the subject. It is only an expletive, meaning a meaningless filler word. The real subject is the plural 'provisions' in this inverted clause. But logically speaking, we say for example that ' 'the law will take its course' and not the "provisions in the law" will take their course. We generally say Bible says and not the psalms in the Bible say.
In A, in addition, and more importantly, I feel that 'provisions that provide' is gross redundancy
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(A) Because there are provisions of the new maritime code that provide that even tiny islets can be the basis for claims to the fisheries and oil fields of large sea areas, they have already stimulated

that modifies code, which is singular. Hence "provide" is wrong. Plus "that provide that" is a wordy construction

(B) Because the new maritime code provides that even tiny islets can be the basis for claims to the fisheries and oil fields of large sea areas, it has already stimulated

SV pairs are okay. Do not see errors.

(C) Even tiny islets can be the basis for claims to the fisheries and oil fields of large sea areas under provisions of the new maritime code, already stimulating
Are tiny islets stimulating? No. this is wrong.

(D) Because even tiny islets can be the basis for claims to the fisheries and oil fields of large sea areas under provisions of the new maritime code, this has already stimulated

This refers to the action is the preceding clause. This is wrong.

(E) Because even tiny islets can be the basis for claims to the fisheries and oil fields of large sea areas under provisions of the new maritime code, which is already stimulating

The sentence preceding comma is a dependent clause. Hence, an independent clause must follow for the answer choice to make sense.
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