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09 Feb 2010, 19:22
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Hey everyone,
Pretty sure this is my first thread I've ever created on this forum...odd.
Anyway, I need to tap into the knowledge base that makes up this terrific little community of ours. My girlfriend is looking to apply to business schools next year in the Georgetown, UNC, Emory range and is very concerned about her GPA (somewhat rightfully so). She graduated with an overall of 2.82 from UW-Madison (guess where we met?) but with a relatively significant upward trend. She began as an engineering student, hated it but stuck with it because she figured that's what her family wanted. She finally made the switch to economics and probably had a 3.3-3.4 her last two years. She's very bright, very motivated and I have no doubt that she'll do well on the GMAT (680-730 range if I had to guess). However she recognizes that she may need to build an alternative transcript. I told her I'd love to help her figure that out and then realized I knew NOTHING about it at all but figured many of you would so I have the following questions if you wouldn't mind:
1). Are online classes (UCLA Extension for example) reputable enough and viewed at all as significant in the eyes of an admissions committee?
2). How much do said courses cost and are they open for enrollment on a rolling year round basis?
3). How about community colleges in the area? I would assume it's more favorable to go to something like the University of Minnesota but from clicking through their website the only thing I can find are enrollment options for Continuing Education classes, not necessarily undergrad classes.
4). How many courses would you recommend? 2-3 quant style classes I would imagine (stats, accounting, finance)
If you guys have ANY other information that you think I might be missing please do feel free to share it. I know this is sort of specific for a single person but hopefully the knowledge that we can build on the subject will help many others that are probably at this moment beginning their investigation into B-School. Plus, I think I've been here ALMOST long enough for a request like this!
Pretty sure this is my first thread I've ever created on this forum...odd.
Anyway, I need to tap into the knowledge base that makes up this terrific little community of ours. My girlfriend is looking to apply to business schools next year in the Georgetown, UNC, Emory range and is very concerned about her GPA (somewhat rightfully so). She graduated with an overall of 2.82 from UW-Madison (guess where we met?) but with a relatively significant upward trend. She began as an engineering student, hated it but stuck with it because she figured that's what her family wanted. She finally made the switch to economics and probably had a 3.3-3.4 her last two years. She's very bright, very motivated and I have no doubt that she'll do well on the GMAT (680-730 range if I had to guess). However she recognizes that she may need to build an alternative transcript. I told her I'd love to help her figure that out and then realized I knew NOTHING about it at all but figured many of you would so I have the following questions if you wouldn't mind:
1). Are online classes (UCLA Extension for example) reputable enough and viewed at all as significant in the eyes of an admissions committee?
2). How much do said courses cost and are they open for enrollment on a rolling year round basis?
3). How about community colleges in the area? I would assume it's more favorable to go to something like the University of Minnesota but from clicking through their website the only thing I can find are enrollment options for Continuing Education classes, not necessarily undergrad classes.
4). How many courses would you recommend? 2-3 quant style classes I would imagine (stats, accounting, finance)
If you guys have ANY other information that you think I might be missing please do feel free to share it. I know this is sort of specific for a single person but hopefully the knowledge that we can build on the subject will help many others that are probably at this moment beginning their investigation into B-School. Plus, I think I've been here ALMOST long enough for a request like this!
09 Feb 2010, 20:07
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I'm not an expert on this subject, but this thread may give you some ideas...it's not specifically about alternate transcripts, but it gives a lot of the same info.
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09 Feb 2010, 22:00
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Hey ACNGuy,
I did 2 classes at UCLA Extension and I am currently enrolled in one at UCSD Extension. The two classes I took at UCLA Extension were Calculus and Math for Management (which was mostly financial modelling). I am currently enrolled in Statistics. My reason for taking these courses was a little different. I hadn't taken maths in 13 years (last course was in high school because I tested out of my freshman year) and I felt like there was a big, gaping, hole in my educational profile. In response to your questions:
1) I went with UCLA Extension because it had been recommended online some place and I'm located in Los Angeles (one of my instructors was in NM, though). They issue a formal transcript that I uploaded to all the R2 schools. I got my grades a little late for it to make a difference for R1, but I managed to update 2 schools in time, Anderson and Ross, who waitlisted and accepted me respectively. When I approached them about sending in the grade (basically supplementing my app right before decisions came out) they were both open to it, which makes me think that they do consider these types of efforts. If your girlfriend is going to go this route, make sure she keeps track of timing and gets everything done before she applies-I feel like it might have made a difference to Chicago Booth if I could have showed them my As in Calculus and Math for Management but by the time I got the grades they had already issued their decision.
2) The courses are about $500-600 each. Bitter aside here, I spent my bonus on Extension classes, which makes me feel sad and pathetic everytime I think about it!
3) The classes go on year round but you have to sign up for them when they start. As in, they have start and stop dates, you can't just register whenever you feel like it. Also, some courses are very popular. Math for Management filled up quickly. I'm now at UCSD because UCLA's Stats class was full by the time I got around to trying to register.
4) I would recommend Stats, Calculus, Accounting and Microeconomics. My Calculus, Stats and Micro grades are the ones I've had to explicitly declare on some of the applications. If I could go back, I would drop M for M for Micro because it killed me everytime to write in "D" for that one (fortunately, my transcript shows that the class average was C-, I didn't go to a GPA padding type place). Fortunately, I wasn't making up for any bad grades in math, I just didn't have any.
I think that what I managed to show was a good faith effort to address some of the issues the adcoms might think about (no math grades + non quant job). If your gf is trying to rebuild her resume, that mightbe a guiding point.
I did 2 classes at UCLA Extension and I am currently enrolled in one at UCSD Extension. The two classes I took at UCLA Extension were Calculus and Math for Management (which was mostly financial modelling). I am currently enrolled in Statistics. My reason for taking these courses was a little different. I hadn't taken maths in 13 years (last course was in high school because I tested out of my freshman year) and I felt like there was a big, gaping, hole in my educational profile. In response to your questions:
1) I went with UCLA Extension because it had been recommended online some place and I'm located in Los Angeles (one of my instructors was in NM, though). They issue a formal transcript that I uploaded to all the R2 schools. I got my grades a little late for it to make a difference for R1, but I managed to update 2 schools in time, Anderson and Ross, who waitlisted and accepted me respectively. When I approached them about sending in the grade (basically supplementing my app right before decisions came out) they were both open to it, which makes me think that they do consider these types of efforts. If your girlfriend is going to go this route, make sure she keeps track of timing and gets everything done before she applies-I feel like it might have made a difference to Chicago Booth if I could have showed them my As in Calculus and Math for Management but by the time I got the grades they had already issued their decision.
2) The courses are about $500-600 each. Bitter aside here, I spent my bonus on Extension classes, which makes me feel sad and pathetic everytime I think about it!
3) The classes go on year round but you have to sign up for them when they start. As in, they have start and stop dates, you can't just register whenever you feel like it. Also, some courses are very popular. Math for Management filled up quickly. I'm now at UCSD because UCLA's Stats class was full by the time I got around to trying to register.
4) I would recommend Stats, Calculus, Accounting and Microeconomics. My Calculus, Stats and Micro grades are the ones I've had to explicitly declare on some of the applications. If I could go back, I would drop M for M for Micro because it killed me everytime to write in "D" for that one (fortunately, my transcript shows that the class average was C-, I didn't go to a GPA padding type place). Fortunately, I wasn't making up for any bad grades in math, I just didn't have any.
I think that what I managed to show was a good faith effort to address some of the issues the adcoms might think about (no math grades + non quant job). If your gf is trying to rebuild her resume, that mightbe a guiding point.
