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What you mentioned I think they are just minor flaws. Pls give a rates on following AI & AA.
The following appeared in an ad for a book titled How to write a screenplay for a movie.

“Writers who want to succeed should try to write film screenplays rather than books, since the average film tends to make greater profits than does even best-selling book. It is true that some books are also made into films. However, our nation’s film producers are more likely to produce movies based on original screenplays than to produce films based on book, because in recent years the films have sold the most tickets have usually been based on original! Screenplays!

Discuss how well reasoned….,etc.

The conclusion of this argument is that writes who want to succeed should try to write film screenplays rather than books and our nation’s film producers are more likely to produce movies based on orginal screenplay than to produce films based on books. The author employs several lines of reasoning to reach this conclusion. For one thing, the author reasons that since average films tends to make greater profits than does even best-selling book. For example, the author reasons that in recent years the films have sold the most tickets have usually been based on original screenplays. The argument is unconvincing for several reasons.

To begin with, the author assumes that there are relevance between movies and books. This assumption is clearly mistaken. It is also possible that book selling are more profitable than movies and screenplays. Movies and books are two different subjects which should be defined in seperate category. As matter of fact, making movies tend to earn more money than writing books, but it is untrue that write film screenplays rather than books will succeed. For example, some of high tech movies like “spider man”, “x-man”, or even “transformers” which is our favorite movies enjoy high rates of attendence in cinema copied from comic books. If the author can give some substantial evidence to prove his view otherwise it is obvious that films making based on books can also make great profits. Hence, without weighing and then eliminating these and other possible causal explanations contributing to the long term trend endorsed in the argument, the author can not solely attribute films make more profits than books to people should write film screenplays rather than books while convincing us of the suspect conclusion.

Secondly, the author claims that because in recent years the films have sold the most tickets have usually been based on original screenplays so our nation;s film producer are more likely to produce movies based on original screenplays than to produce films based on books. But he fails to support this argument because that screenplay has nothing to with book, Althogh films made on screenplay become sensational periodically, it doesn’t mean it will last long. In addition, films made on books also tend to make great profits as I mentioned earilier. The succuss of films is not simply based what films are about, there are also some other element influence the films, for example, the cost of film, means whether the producer put enough money to make the film, if the cost is high, there will be more high tech scene, famous actors or actresses, great film promotion before the film’s opening, these all are accounted to the success of the film.
In conclusion, the arguer, by leaving out the above-mentioned factors, tries in vain to justify the argument. To better his argument, the arguer needs more data and analysis to smooth out all the wrinkles in the line of reasoning. In assessing whether films writing on screenplay rather than books can succeed by following films based on screenplay tend to make great profits than books. I would recommend from a business point of view, the research on business feasibility encompassing the factors discussed aboved will instrumental in minimizing any potential risk.

“ If the primary duty and concern of a corporation is to make money, then conflict is inevitable when the corporation must also acknowledge a duty to serve society.”

From your perspective, how accurate is the above statement? Support your position with reasons and/ Or example from your own experience, observation, or reading.


Nowadays, there is a controversial issue about if the primary duty and concern of a corporation is to make money, then conflict is inevitable when the corporation must also acknowledge a duty to serve society. Depending on experiences, beliefs, and emtional concern, we may find that some people opinion that company’s priority should be making more money instead of serving socity. While others have an opposite attitude. In fact, I agree that corporation not only is to make money but also is to acknowledge a duty to serve society. My view will be substantiated by the following discussion.

First of all, the most important reason for my viws is that company should be responsible for serving society and country. To illustrate this, there is an appropriate example that is very persuasive GE, P&G, Wal-Mart and JP Morgen, these top 10 companies are commited to create better envoirnment for our society. They are powerful, persistent and ambitious in their specific field. But they are also putting serving the society as priority. Beucase companies are connected to the society, so they have the obligation to serve the society, in adverse, they will also get good return. Under this situation, it is obvious that corporation must also acknowledge a duty to serve society.

Another equivalently crucial ground that would have to be presented to develop my viewpoint is that as matter of fact primary duty and concern of a corporation is to make money while also acknowledge a duty to serve society. For example, if a company is totally indifferent about its society, it is inevitable that this company will fail eventually or if a company refuse to reimburse victims whom suffered from their daily work, company should be responsible for paying their employee. So as far as I am concerned, Making money while serving society is sagacious action.

Thirdly, it is probably true that in certain conditions company fails to acknowledge a duty to serve society. Nonetheless, this alone does not generate a sufficient support to advocate that company shouldn’t be responsible for serving the society. As matter of fact, these cases are not common and hence too weak to boost this conclusion. When the advantages and disadvantages are carefully examined, more striking conclusion is obvious that even those successful companies who serving the society enjoy high reputation, high profits and quick growth. Companies rely on society and society rely on companies. These two things are interconnected.

Consequently, if all the factors above are considered, we will find out that advantage of company serve the society while making money outweight company don’t serve company solely making more money. Therefore from what we have discussed, we may safely come to conclusion that choose The former one is rather wise decision.








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As mentioned previously, your essay is fair to present your view point. But concentrate on structure. I think you should evaluate your essay after taking a break so that you would know the pitfalls.
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Dear all,

GC is such a wonderful forum and I have been a regular follower of it.

Finally, I am about to take my GMAT .. Lurking, thinking, sleeping, I have finally managed to book the slot for the D-DAY on 10th Aug ..

I have just written my first essay (all mocks I took were without AWA :( )

Can you please help me and provide a rating on 1-6 .. The template is from CHineseburned thread ..

Q. stem:

The following appeared as part of an annual report sent to stockholders by Olympic Foods, a processor of frozen foods.

"Over time, the costs of processing go down because as organizations learn how to do things better, they become more efficient. In color film processing, for example, the cost of a 3-by-5-inch print fell from 50 cents for five-day service in 1970 to 20 cents for one-day service in 1984. The same principle applies to the processing of food. And since Olympic Foods will soon celebrate its twenty-fifth birthday, we can expect that our long experience will enable us to minimize costs and thus maximize profits."

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Argument essay

--------- My response:


The argument claims that over time, the organizations become more efficient, leading to lower processing costs and higher profits. It erroneously draws parallel between color film processing and food processing and states that Olympic foods will be able to maximize its profits since it will soon celebrate its 25th birthday. Stated in this way the argument reveals examples of leap of faith, poor-reasoning, and ill-defined terminology. The conclusion relies on assumptions for which there is no clear evidence. Therefore, the argument is rather weak, unconvincing, and has several flaws.

First, the argument readily assumes that cost of processing is the only factor that affects the profits and since with time the costs of processing go down, the profits will increase. This statement is a stretch and not substantiated in any way. The argument fails to consider the effect of other heads - such as demand in the market, equipment costs, employee costs, raw-material prices, logistics costs, market competition etc. - on the profits. It is very much possible that though with time the efficiency of Olympic foods has increased, but suddenly, it has to hire new employees, who are just starting in the industry and has to face losses because of poor end product and less demand. Thus, the argument could have been much clearer if it explicitly stated that how other external factors and overhead costs affect the profits of Olympic foods business.

Second, the argument draws parallel between color film processing and food processing and claims that same principle applies to both. It thus suggests that this yet another reason for Olympic foods to minimize the costs and maximize profits. This is again a very weak and unsupported claim as the argument does not substantiate any correlation between the decrease of costs in color processing and food processing. This is a fatal error as the process chain and business models of both the businesses are entirely different. For instance, amount spent on raw materials/raw food items contributes to major chunk of costs in food industry, while in color processing/photography industry raw materials are not a major factor as most of the investment is on the machinery and hiring skilled employees.

Finally, the generalization that the organizations become more efficient with time and have lower cost of processing is not very convincing and has no legs to stand on. In fact, the reverse is true for organizations that are scaling up their businesses, or capturing new market segments. Further, a lot of companies are affected by economic factors and go bankrupt even after being in the business for 50 years.

In conclusion, argument is flawed and seems to be a case of wishful thinking rather than substantive evidence. It could be strengthened by clearly mentioning the effect of economic indicators, market demands on the profits of organizations. Moreover, a convincing correlation between color processing and food processing would help in defining the merits of the argument.

Issue

Corporations and other businesses should try to eliminate the many ranks and salary grades that classify employees according to their experience and expertise. A flat organizational structure is more likely to encourage collegiality and cooperation among employees.

Response

The issue of whether the organizations should follow a hierarchical structure or a flat structure is a contentious one. While each side has its strengths and weaknesses, I believe that a hierarchical organization structure takes precedence over and has far better benefits as compared to a flat organization structure because hierarchical structure keeps the employees motivated and inspires them to perform well, which is good for both – the employee and the organization. Furthermore, it helps an organization to achieve its goals and meet its growth strategy.

First, the reasons for any employee to work in an organization are to learn and excel in a competitive environment, to earn a monthly income in order to maintain a standard of living and take care of his/her family, and to achieve professional goals by rising through the corporate ladder. Elimination of ranks and salary grades that distinguish the employees attacks all the three reasons in one-go and acts as a deterrent to any organization. For instance, in an organization, if a fresh out of college graduate earns the same salary as the vice president of the company then I ask you, where is the room for growth for the college graduate. Will he/she be ever motivated enough to work hard and learn from his/her peers? Similarly, will the vice president be too willing to stay in an organization in which his experience and pedigree is not valued. Clearly, a flat organizational structure is not beneficial from the employee point of view.

Second, a flat organizational structure is not good from the organization’s point of view. Every organization has certain goals and a growth strategy. These goals are laid out by people in senior management, who have vast domain knowledge and experience and then communicated to middle management. It is essential for the middle management to achieve these goals at end of each quarter/year. In a flat organizational structure, there will be no leader to achieve these targets and no decision makers to meet the deliveries. Thus, a flat organizational structure would lead to lower profits.

Some may argue that a flat structure would increase the camaraderie and provide a college like atmosphere. While, it is true to an extent that elimination of ranks and salaries might reduce the envy among the employees, this point is flawed, since there will be no decision maker in times of disagreement in the organization and no leader in times of change. Thus, a flat structure will turn into a no solution zone.

In summary, the opinion that a flat organizational structure would increase cooperation and collegiality like atmosphere is inaccurate. It only leads to poor motivation levels, bad performances, and hinders an organization in achieving its goals




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Based on our essay response, you shouldn't be concerned about AWA at all. Both essays are wonderfully written and clearly convey your thoughts.

Since I always try to give a range, I would rate them at 5.5 - 6, but my inclination is towards 6.

Good luck with your test!

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Based on our essay response, you shouldn't be concerned about AWA at all. Both essays are wonderfully written and clearly convey your thoughts.

Since I always try to give a range, I would rate them at 5.5 - 6, but my inclination is towards 6.

Good luck with your test!

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Thanks my friend for your kind words :)

I can sleep peacefully now .. Just needed an affirmation, after all m human :| :-D

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This if just from looking at your argument essay. Not to be harsh, but I just don't agree with heregoesnothing that you do not need to improve your AWA. Hope my feedback is useful, if not, please feel free to ignore.

You seem to have some problems on knowing when to add "the" and when not to. This is a common problem for non-native speakers. Some examples of this:
"over time, organizations become more efficient"
"in conclusion, the argument is"
"reduce envy"

Many of your sentences are phrased somewhat awkwardly. Some times you try to put too many subjects in a sentence or try to connect too many themes. While you should vary sentence length and include a few long ones, try to leave the long sentences for when you have a very clear idea of what you want to express. Here's an example:

"First, the argument readily assumes that cost of processing is the only factor that affects the profits and since with time the costs of processing go down, the profits will increase."

Again, no "the" in front of both instances of "profits." This one sorta sounds like a verbal SC sentence to be corrected. Its much easier to read especially for the human grader if you break it down. My humble suggestion below:

"The argument readily assumes that cost of processing is the only factor that affects profit, supporting this stance with the observation that as processing costs decrease, profits increase."

or

"The argument readily assumes that cost of processing is the only factor that affects profit. The author attempts to support this assertion with the observation that as processing costs decrease, profits increase."

With your preference for lengthy sentences , breaking down a few can also help vary sentence length which I think is a factor in grading.

Stay away from colloquialisms such as "a lot of", replace with numerous or many. Another example is "being in the business."

Also with word choice, make sure you use only those words and phrases that you know you can use correctly. Eg. you can't increase "collegiality like atmosphere."

Too many grammatical errors and awkward phrasing to be a six. You should not be making some of these grammatical errors like adding "that" when you shouldn't because the same concepts will be tested in the verbal section of the GMAT. You can get away with a few, but there's a significant number in this essay.

"Thus, the argument could have been much clearer if it explicitly stated that how other external factors and overhead costs affect the profits of Olympic foods business."
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Wow, just realized that you're going to take the test on the 10th, same as me! :)

Arck, ignore most of what I've said, you're not going to make big changes in 2 days, and don't get hang up on the minor details I pointed out.

Just be a little more careful of grammar, especially since you studied so hard for the verbal. Good luck and all the best! Hope you get your dream score. :)
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Wow, just realized that you're going to take the test on the 10th, same as me! :)

Arck, ignore most of what I've said, you're not going to make big changes in 2 days, and don't get hang up on the minor details I pointed out.

Just be a little more careful of grammar, especially since you studied so hard for the verbal. Good luck and all the best! Hope you get your dream score. :)


Hey openbox1 ..

I really appreciate your feedback.. something is better that nothing u c !! :) I will try to incorporate whatever I can .. To be frank, I am not even thinking of scoring a 6 .. I am just thinking of writing !! :P

Well, I just finished my last mock (MGMAT 6).. it was a long 1 along with AWA ... (read ur post after the attempt though)

Can you put in your comments on this one and rate it on a scale of 1-6

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ESSAY QUESTION:
The following appeared in a science magazine:

“The “Space Race” of the 1960’s between the USA and Russia was very expensive but it yielded a tremendous number of technological advances. These advances have provided many economic and humanitarian benefits. The benefits have more than paid for the effort and money spent during the Space Race and therefore the government should make allowances within the budget to pay for a manned Mars landing by 2020.”

Discuss how well reasoned you find this argument. Point out flaws in the argument's logic and analyze the argument's underlying assumptions. In addition, evaluate how supporting evidence is used and what evidence might counter the argument's conclusion. You may also discuss what additional evidence could be used to strengthen the argument or what changes would make the argument more logically sound.

YOUR RESPONSE:
The argument claims that the government should make allowances within the budget to pay for a manned Mars landing by 2020 since the space race of 1960's between the USA and Russia yielded a tremendous number of technological advances that lead to humanitarian and economic benefits. Stated in this way the argument reveals poor reasoning, ill-defined terminology, and fails to mention several key factors, on the basis of which it could be evaluated. In drawing the conclusion, the author relies on vague terms. Further more, the author assumes that whatever has been true in the past will be true in the future too.

First, the author states his opinion and quantifies the benefits using the word "many". Clearly, this is a sign of weak evidence. What if, the economic and humanitarian benefits only helped 10% of the population and caused ill-effects for almost 30% of the population. Further, the author states that benefits have more than paid for the money spent during the space race. This statement is a stretch and not substantiated in any way. On the basis of this weak evidence the author draws a very strong conclusion and uses the word "should", making his opinion a moral compulsion for the government.

Second, the author readily assumes, based on the past results, that the manned Mars landing will also will be beneficial for the economy and humanity and hence, should be considered in the budget. This is a fatal error as the author fails to compare the scenario in 1960 with that of today's era. It could be possible that in 1960, the need of the hour was to develop better technology, however, now the need is to focus on unemployment, education, and other social issues. The assumption is unsubstantiated and has no legs to stand on.

Finally, the author fails to mention explicit cases in which the advances have balanced out the money spent on space race. Without convincing cases and examples, one is left with the impression that the claim is more of a wishful thinking rather facts.

The argument could be strengthened by quantifying the benefits and providing examples of long lasting impacts on the economy and humanity. Furthermore, it could also be strengthened by citing estimated positive impacts of manned Mars landing in future. As it stands, however, the argument is flawed for the reasons indicated.



AWA ESSAYS: Analyze Issues

ESSAY QUESTION:
“People should be strictly prohibited from using their cellular phones in public places where their conversations could disturb others: on the bus, at a restaurant, or in a museum.”

From your perspective, how accurate is the above statement? Support your position with reasons and/or examples from your own experience, observations, or reading.

YOUR RESPONSE:
The issue of using the cellular phones in public places is a contentious one. While each side has its strengths and weaknesses, I believe that allowing people to talk on the phone takes precedence over prohibiting them from using it in public places because not using the cellular phones in public places directly goes against the purpose of carrying a phone and defies the very reason they have become so popular. Furthermore, prohibiting the usage of mobile phones in public places is similar to invading personal space of a citizen and denying the right to freedom.

First, people carry cellular phones to enable them to stay in touch with their friends and family, and handle their professional/business engagements and other personal commitments. A cellular phone is like a boon to a person in case of an emergency. For instance, consider a person who works out of town and daily travels almost 50 miles to his office by a bus. One day, his house catches a fire as soon as he leaves, and his neighbors want to inform him. However, since this person travels by a bus, on which he is not allowed to take calls, he cant pick up their call and their effort to reach him turns futile. The moment, he gets off the bus, he is informed of the unfortunate incident, but it's too late already for him and he has suffered substantial financial loss. Isn't this an attack on his very right to exist?

Second, mobile phones these days comes with multiple features that can help the cause of 'Do not disturb' as stated in the statement. A phone could be put on vibration mode to avoid a sudden loud ring from disturbing others. Furthermore, the efficient speakers in the mobile phones enable a user to speak slowly and still clearly convey his/her thoughts to the other end. For instance, blue-tooth hands free technology enable a user to plug a small device on his ear and talk on the phone smoothly without causing any nuisance.

Some may argue that public places such as bus, restaurant, or a museum are not meant for cellular phones. This point is flawed, since people are free to pursue their self-interests as long as they do not affect others.

In summary, the opinion that people should be prohibited from using their cellular phones in public places is flawed. It only leads to denial of the very purpose of keeping the mobile phones and defies the right to freedom.

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Changes I would make to make sentences more fluid (less awkward) or to remove grammatical errors are highlighted in red:
I'll help with one argument and someone else can help with the issues essay.


The argument claims that the government should make allowances within the budget to pay for a manned Mars landing by 2020, citing as evidence that the space race of 1960's between USA and Russia (remember if you put the USA, you have to put the Russia which sounds horrible, so remove both "the") yielded a tremendous number of technological advances that lead to humanitarian and economic benefits. Stated in this way the argument reveals poor reasoning, ill-defined terminology, and unsubstantiated premises. The author also relies on vague terms to arrive at the aforementioned conclusion (in drawing the conclusion sounds odd). Further more, the author assumes that whatever has been true in the past will be true in the future (removed "too") (While "further more" is correct here, I would suggest you stay away from "further" and "further more" because you occasionally made errors in this and previous essays with regards to their usage).

First, the author states his opinion and quantifies possible (rather than the since you don't outline what the benefits are) benefits using the word "many". Clearly, this is a sign of weak evidence. What if (no comma here) the economic and humanitarian benefits only helped 10% of the population and caused ill-effects for almost 30% of the population. Further, the author states that benefits have more than paid for the money spent during the space race. This statement (removed colloquialism) is made without any substantiation. On the basis of this weak evidence the author draws a very strong conclusion and uses the word "should", making his opinion a moral compulsion for the government (ummm.... conceptually, you may need to elaborate further)

Second, the author readily assumes, based on (removed the) past results, that the manned Mars landing will also (removed will) be beneficial for the economy and humanity and hence, should be considered in the budget. This is a fatal error as the author fails to compare the scenario in 1960 with that of today (today's era sounds extremely awkward). It could be possible that in 1960, the need of the hour was to develop better technology. (try not to use however as a connector, instead start a new sentence) However, in these uncertain economic times, unemployment, education, and other social issues have taken precedence. The assumption is unsubstantiated and has no legs to stand on.

Finally, the author fails to mention explicit cases in which the advances have balanced out the money spent on space race. Without convincing cases and examples, one is left with the impression that the claim is more of a wishful thinking rather facts.

The argument could be strengthened by quantifying the benefits and providing examples of long lasting impacts on the economy and humanity. Furthermore, it could also be strengthened by citing estimated positive impacts of manned Mars landing in future. As it stands, however, the argument is flawed for the reasons indicated.

** Your conclusion paragraph and the preceding paragraph seem to both focus on points to strengthen the argument. You might want to shift all the points that mention how to strengthen the argument from the conclusion to the second last paragraph and just restate your points mentioned to flesh out the conclusion.

Okay, that's all for me. Somebody else please help with the issues essays.
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Changes I would make to make sentences more fluid (less awkward) or to remove grammatical errors are highlighted in red:
I'll help with one argument and someone else can help with the issues essay.


The argument claims that the government should make allowances within the budget to pay for a manned Mars landing by 2020, citing as evidence that the space race of 1960's between USA and Russia (remember if you put the USA, you have to put the Russia which sounds horrible, so remove both "the") yielded a tremendous number of technological advances that lead to humanitarian and economic benefits. Stated in this way the argument reveals poor reasoning, ill-defined terminology, and unsubstantiated premises. The author also relies on vague terms to arrive at the aforementioned conclusion (in drawing the conclusion sounds odd). Further more, the author assumes that whatever has been true in the past will be true in the future (removed "too") (While "further more" is correct here, I would suggest you stay away from "further" and "further more" because you occasionally made errors in this and previous essays with regards to their usage).

First, the author states his opinion and quantifies possible (rather than the since you don't outline what the benefits are) benefits using the word "many". Clearly, this is a sign of weak evidence. What if (no comma here) the economic and humanitarian benefits only helped 10% of the population and caused ill-effects for almost 30% of the population. Further, the author states that benefits have more than paid for the money spent during the space race. This statement (removed colloquialism) is made without any substantiation. On the basis of this weak evidence the author draws a very strong conclusion and uses the word "should", making his opinion a moral compulsion for the government (ummm.... conceptually, you may need to elaborate further)

Second, the author readily assumes, based on (removed the) past results, that the manned Mars landing will also (removed will) be beneficial for the economy and humanity and hence, should be considered in the budget. This is a fatal error as the author fails to compare the scenario in 1960 with that of today (today's era sounds extremely awkward). It could be possible that in 1960, the need of the hour was to develop better technology. (try not to use however as a connector, instead start a new sentence) However, in these uncertain economic times, unemployment, education, and other social issues have taken precedence. The assumption is unsubstantiated and has no legs to stand on.

Finally, the author fails to mention explicit cases in which the advances have balanced out the money spent on space race. Without convincing cases and examples, one is left with the impression that the claim is more of a wishful thinking rather facts.

The argument could be strengthened by quantifying the benefits and providing examples of long lasting impacts on the economy and humanity. Furthermore, it could also be strengthened by citing estimated positive impacts of manned Mars landing in future. As it stands, however, the argument is flawed for the reasons indicated.

** Your conclusion paragraph and the preceding paragraph seem to both focus on points to strengthen the argument. You might want to shift all the points that mention how to strengthen the argument from the conclusion to the second last paragraph and just restate your points mentioned to flesh out the conclusion.

Okay, that's all for me. Somebody else please help with the issues essays.


Thanks man !! Really appreciate .. You have made it hell lot crispier ..

+1 to u. I just noticed that this wud be ur 1st '+1'.

Can you rate the argument essay on 1-6 ?? I just dont want to fall below 5 .. :(

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I wouldn't be the best guy to ask dude, that's why I didn't score it. Just pointed out some areas you might want to be careful about. You took the GMAT before right? How'd you do last time?
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I wouldn't be the best guy to ask dude, that's why I didn't score it. Just pointed out some areas you might want to be careful about. You took the GMAT before right? How'd you do last time?


I hit a 5 iver ..but that was 2 yrs ago... With time, we improve, don't we?? :)

Thanks !! Gud luck for ur test 2mrw .. Just Chill .. I saw ur scores and they look promising ..

Pls dnt even think of taking a mock 2mrw .. Do well !!
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I wouldn't be the best guy to ask dude, that's why I didn't score it. Just pointed out some areas you might want to be careful about. You took the GMAT before right? How'd you do last time?


I hit a 5 iver ..but that was 2 yrs ago... With time, we improve, don't we?? :)

Thanks !! Gud luck for ur test 2mrw .. Just Chill .. I saw ur scores and they look promising ..

Pls dnt even think of taking a mock 2mrw .. Do well !!


Thanks! And yeah, if you got a 5 you'll probably hit it this time round too.

I saw your post about the 720. 720 with AWA 5 is damn respectable, but its just on the cusp of a 80/80 split right, which I'm guessing is the reason you're retaking? Or was it skewed heavily to Quant? Also you must be an Indian IT professional aren't cha. ;) I'm kinda in the same boat... East-Asian, male, with a finance background. Our demographics kinda suck. Oh why couldn't I be a minority that actually gets perks. :)
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BearBelly wrote:
openbox1 wrote:
I wouldn't be the best guy to ask dude, that's why I didn't score it. Just pointed out some areas you might want to be careful about. You took the GMAT before right? How'd you do last time?


I hit a 5 iver ..but that was 2 yrs ago... With time, we improve, don't we?? :)

Thanks !! Gud luck for ur test 2mrw .. Just Chill .. I saw ur scores and they look promising ..

Pls dnt even think of taking a mock 2mrw .. Do well !!


Thanks! And yeah, if you got a 5 you'll probably hit it this time round too.

I saw your post about the 720. 720 with AWA 5 is damn respectable, but its just on the cusp of a 80/80 split right, which I'm guessing is the reason you're retaking? Or was it skewed heavily to Quant? Also you must be an Indian IT professional aren't cha. ;) I'm kinda in the same boat... East-Asian, male, with a finance background. Our demographics kinda suck. Oh why couldn't I be a minority that actually gets perks. :)


Yeah, the distribution was 50,36 .. Secondly, my prep was very random, badly planned at that time.. SC was more on what sounded right ..

Well, I have worked in IT, but now I am working in Market Research and Analytics.. so something to differentiate ..

ha ha .. you need perks, I just need a seat with good merit aid (another reason to retake) ..

Cheers! man :) happy testing.. What schools are you sending your scores to?
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No idea. I'll just slot the usual big names and hope i get lucky. I'll tailor my essays of course, but to me they're all pretty much the same. Just another line to add to the resume. I just want to take two years off to smell the roses and remember what the sun looks like. I think I deserve it.

To the haters, hey, at least I'm honest. Of course I'll hide my happy-go-lucky attitude under 6 inches of TYPE A GO GET 'EM bull-****. :)
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No idea. I'll just slot the usual big names and hope i get lucky. I'll tailor my essays of course, but to me they're all pretty much the same. Just another line to add to the resume. I just want to take two years off to smell the roses and remember what the sun looks like. I think I deserve it.

To the haters, hey, at least I'm honest. Of course I'll hide my happy-go-lucky attitude under 6 inches of TYPE A GO GET 'EM bull-****. :)



ha ha !! GO GET 'EM dude.. GO GET THE GMAT 2mrw ... M outta here.. u shud be too.. dnt browse too many threads on the last day...

Stay off the pc 4 2dy .. start afresh at the test center 2mrw ...
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Can someone please rate my AWA analysis of an issue essay? This is the 3rd essay that I wrote. I am still struggling (big time!) with keeping to 30 minutes. I also think English is a hurdle (I am not a native speaker). I am doing very well in the verbal and quant. sections and was aiming to take the GMAT in September because of this but now I am not sure if I should be spending more time on AWA (and postpone my GMAT)?


“Corporations and other businesses should try to eliminate the many ranks and salary grades
that classify employees according to their experience and expertise. A ‘flat’ organizational structure
is more likely to encourage collegiality and cooperation among employees.” Discuss the extent to
which you agree or disagree with the opinion stated above. Support your views with reasons
and/or examples from your own experience, observations, or reading.


Should corporations and other businesses aim to have a “flat” organizational structure or should they try to classify employees into ranks and salary grades based on their expertise and skills and hence create a hierarchical, vertical structure. My opinion is that although a flat organizational structure could have its merits, they are not significant enough for us to forgo the concept that businesses should reward employees with ranks and salary grades according to their performance. In my next few paragraphs, I will aim to show that the main claimed benefits of a flat organization do not out-weight the benefit of motivation that is possible through the hierarchical model.

The first benefit of a flat organization, according to its supporters, is that it encourages collegiality and cooperation among employees. To this, I have two responses.

Firstly, assuming this is true, one could argue that a hierarchical organization encourages competition between employees and hence brings the best out of each of them. Admittedly, this could mean less of a team work spirit and more of a competitive spirit but the question then becomes which of the two spirits is most important for businesses. My stance is that this will differ from business to business according to the corporate culture and goals and hence there is no ground for asserting that all businesses should eliminate ranks to encourage collegiality.

Secondly, and more importantly, I would argue that the layers of middle management that are created by the hierarchical organization are more influential in encouraging collegiality than the flat structure. I have seen, and heard about, several cases where the team leader was able to keep cooperation among his team at its best. After all, leadership is all about motivating people and a good leader has to be able to motivate his team to work together as one team and to cooperate with other teams within the company.

The second benefit of a flat organization, as cited by its supporters, would be exposure; exposure of the employee to the company and its goals, vision, and direction. And also, the exposure of the employee to senior management which should allow the employee to be better recognized for his skills and should safeguard the employee from any discrimination, or unfairness from his direct manager. I personally worked for a flat organization where I had only one layer, manager, between the global CEO and I and, admittedly, there is better exposure to the company goals and vision in a flat organization. However, based on my experience, I think the claim that the employee becomes better exposed to senior management simply over estimates the bandwidth of most managers. While the global CEO was only one person away from me, she had too many people who are also one person away from her and so the real exposure to her that I had was a 30 minutes call every year! So while on paper it looked like she was revising my appraisal versus the claims of my manager, in reality the only tie I had with the company was my supervisor and everything he would claim about me would be taken for its face value. In addition, I had the exact opposite experience in my earlier company where there were many ranks and up to three levels above me knew very well how I was performing, since they had less people to look after (the global CEO was obviously not one of these three levels). I was certainly more safeguarded in this hierarchical structure from any unfairness from my direct manager.

In conclusion, the most important argument for a hierarchical structure is that “the many ranks and salary grades that classify employees according to their experience and expertise” are needed to motivate and reward employees. Without them, we wouldn’t be able to differentiate between employees based on performance and we would be unfair to high performers. The very few benefits of a flat structure that stand scrutiny do not out weight this ultimate benefit; motivating employees by treating them fairly.
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If typing speed is something that is slowing you down then my recommendation would be to get a free prep software and practice on typing for a 15-30 min every day. The length of the essay looks good (length is one of the measures for your score I believe.). Third para does not follow the structure of second and third para (firstly, secondly.. it should be thirdly or use Moreover or something for transition. All the best.
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