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Desautels (McGill U) 2013 - Calling All MBA Applicants

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Dear everybody ... as I shared with you all my stress and GMAT defeats during the last long months , I would like to share with you my good news . I took my 3rd attempt a couple of hours ago scoring 620 (Q42 V33). It is not a booming score but I already know from Jonathan they are looking for a minimum of 600 .At last , I am done with the GMAT! Thank you all for your patience .I will rest for a few days then start working on my John Molson application as a back up for Desautels


don't give up on Desautels, my GMAT is not high, but I'm still applying Mcgill because that's what I want, I don't think about Concordia at all. Got interview appointment yesterday, and going for it on this Friday. I rely on my WE. I bought only Official guide and did 80% of the practice when I prepared my GMAT, I spent only about 4 week after work time on it, I was looking at 600 but didn't performe well at the test center. So I think a lot of factors will decide if you are going to be admitted. WE, your confidence, GMAT? GMAT defintely talkes if you have 750 or some other higher score. I just want to be myself - I apply for only Desautels school, this is only time I will apply and I'm confident that I'm able to be competitive, no second thought, you'll make it!
I'll see how my interview goes and share with you if positive.

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Dear everybody ... as I shared with you all my stress and GMAT defeats during the last long months , I would like to share with you my good news . I took my 3rd attempt a couple of hours ago scoring 620 (Q42 V33). It is not a booming score but I already know from Jonathan they are looking for a minimum of 600 .At last , I am done with the GMAT! Thank you all for your patience .I will rest for a few days then start working on my John Molson application as a back up for Desautels


don't give up on Desautels, I have my GMAT at 590 but I'm still applying Mcgill, it's the only option for me, I don't think about Concordia at all. Got interview appointment yesterday, and going for it on this Friday. I rely on my 12 years WE. I bought only Official guide and did 80% of the practice when I prepared my GMAT, I spent only about 4 week after work time on it, I was looking at 600 but didn't performe well at the test center. So I think a lot of factors will decide if you are going to be admitted. WE, your confidence, GMAT? GMAT defintely talkes if you have 750 or some other higher score. I just want to be myself - I apply for only Desautels school, this is only time I will apply and I'm confident that I'm able to be competitive, no second thought, you'll make it!
I'll see how my interview goes and share with you if positive.

Interesting. Good luck JohnyT & Nona!
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Hi everyone,
I got admitted with 12K entrance award.
I need to make a decision but I need some help. Can anyone help me?
I need some information that is not about McGill. (deciding between 2 programs)

I need to know the monthly living costs (for a student) in 2 cities "Shanghai,china " and "Jamshedpur,India"
does anyone here have any idea about living costs in these 2 locations (rent,food,etc.)
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Hi everyone,
I got admitted with 12K entrance award.
I need to make a decision but I need some help. Can anyone help me?
I need some information that is not about McGill. (deciding between 2 programs)

I need to know the monthly living costs (for a student) in 2 cities "Shanghai,china " and "Jamshedpur,India"
does anyone here have any idea about living costs in these 2 locations (rent,food,etc.)


http://www.numbeo.com/common/

this website can compare the cost of living in any two cities worldwide :-D
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It's because your profile says Location: United States (maybe you hadn't realized that until now? ;)

GPA will also be sort of an issue for me, but I have contacted admissions people from Schulich and Rotman and both schools encouraged me to apply.

As for schools: I'm finding it kind of hard to decide among Canadian schools. It's not like in the US where some schools (HBS, Wharton, Stanford) are obviously better than others. The rankings differ a lot, and personally I'm more inclined to Rotman, then Schulich, then McGill. They are all great schools, but the location to me will be very important, since I don't speak French either. If I were to sum up the pros and cons, they would be:

Rotman - pros: location, international reputation, good rankings; cons: tuition.
McGill - pros: international reputation, job placement rate, smaller program (I have the impression this could mean it's easier to get a job); cons: location, small network (the "other side" of a small program)
Schulich - pros: good rankings, location (not as good as Rotman, but still Toronto) and tuition; cons: York doesn't have great overall reputation.

If you plan to go to finance, I'd say Rotman would be the best choice. Yes, you're going to be just one more of half of the class, but then again the best opportunities might be there after all. That's just my opinion, though. I'll probably have a more informed one after I visit the schools. And just like you, scholarships will play an important role in my decision. All things equaled I'd go to Rotman, but I'd need a generous scholarship from them for that condition to be true (and no scholarships from the others).

Now, even more important than which school, what do you think it's gonna be like in the Canadian job market for foreigners like us? I contacted a girl from Rotman and she said it's actually hard to get a good job. A guy from Schulich was more optimistic and said that it's totally possible to get a good job on par with Canadian-born MBAs.


I agree with most points in your pros/cons list. I have the same concerns you have about the job market for foreigners. Even more so for myself, at least (I think) you'll have an easier time with accent similarities. Mine will really stand out.

If you go through businessweek profiles, each college has b/w 45-60% international students and their placement rates are in mid-80s (95+ for McGill) so unless the programs are flat out lying about their employment rates (which has been known to happen), it means some of the non-Canadians do get placed. Plus Canada is a much more diverse country than say Australia (where employers are extremely reluctant to give non PRs a job) and employment laws are much easier, so maybe it'll turn out ok? I do know that for international students looking to 'shift' Canada is the best opportunity, in relative terms. Europe and Aus are pretty much off the list and U.S. is a gamble, a gamble that seems to pays off very well though, if the placement rates of US unis are really accurate. Anyway that's what I'm going with, whether it works out or not, at least I made sure to give myself the best chance out there. Maybe 'good' jobs wont come easily, but a job is a job I guess. I've heard about PHDs and MBAs driving cabs and stocking shelves, but they don't have Canadian degrees. I hope at least a Canadian MBA will get us something better than that.


What abt alberts , it seems to have location advantage , also why you say that Australian employer are extremely reluctant to hire internationals , i believe
it is same every where please elaborate
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Had my interview today but less than 30 minutes.Is this a good or bad sign?
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what did you talk about in the interview? are you applyibg for part time or full time.

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Had my interview today but less than 30 minutes.Is this a good or bad sign?
Come on, Nona, give us some more details. How do you think it went?
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TheNona wrote:
Had my interview today but less than 30 minutes.Is this a good or bad sign?
Come on, Nona, give us some more details. How do you think it went?


my interview was short, only 10 minutes.
I stay positive anyway!!
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Sorry for being late to answer:) the questions were quite normal : why McGill? Why MBA now ? If accepted in several schools on what basis would you decide where to go ? Do you mind changing the industry from pharma to anything else ? What do you do for your leisure ? And summarize your evolution in the company since you joined it (t.his last question I asked him to rephrase because in the begining it was not clear ) Overall I think it was good but it only took 17 mins

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what did you talk about in the interview? are you applyibg for part time or full time.

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I'm applying for part time.

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@Nona: Don't take it as a good or bad sign. You will know the result in 2 weeks. You were Canadian, right?
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Edit: I couldn't see the last page.
@Nona: Don't take it as a good or bad sign. You will know the result in 2 weeks. You were Canadian, right?


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Well. You will be fine to take a loan in case if admission.

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The employment statistics on their website indicate that the minimum total compensation is 45k$...is it possible that after graduation a graduate can be recruited for 45k$ only ?
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Well. You will be fine to take a loan in case if admission.

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I hope so . Still considering the options and comparing interest rates to decide what to do
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The employment statistics on their website indicate that the minimum total compensation is 45k$...is it possible that after graduation a graduate can be recruited for 45k$ only ?


Yes, that's true. It depends on your background, your work experience, and the specialization you are focused in. I don't think that they are lying about this issue. I guess you are in the health industry. 45k CAD$ is in the Finance concentration. Total compansation varies from 45K CAD$ to 284K CAD$. If you go in consulting, you will start with minimum 100K CAD$ total compansation.

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Thanks MTRL :) Yes I read this link and this what made me shocked about the 45k$. But I have no idea if consulting refers to working within a consulting firm or as a free consultant if there is sufficient working experience.Any way ,their data about HR is not clear ,they only mentioned an average increase of 11% in total compensation .As a trainer , I am starting to get worried :D

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TheNona wrote:
Thanks MTRL :) Yes I read this link and this what made me shocked about the 45k$. But I have no idea if consulting refers to working within a consulting firm or as a free consultant if there is sufficient working experience.Any way ,their data about HR is not clear ,they only mentioned an average increase of 11% in total compensation .As a trainer , I am starting to get worried :D

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Not all graduates from MBA start with 100+K. It is a masters degree, not a fairy tale. :-D
Put your best effort and you will be fine.
Why not ask admissions team for details?
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