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29 Mar 2019, 04:48
Gave my GMAT Exam today. Got a Q45 and V24 and IR 4. 570 total. Same as official test score that I got

Please guide me how I should improve this.

My target score is 680. So I need Atleast a 100 point increase.
I would request people to please introduce me to a good verbal focused course as well.

Also please guide me how is my quant score? Is it weak normal or good enough for my target score? In my 2 official mock tests I got Q41 and Q47.

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29 Mar 2019, 06:14
UmairAftab wrote:
Gave my GMAT Exam today. Got a Q45 and V24 and IR 4. 570 total. Same as official test score that I got

Please guide me how I should improve this.

My target score is 680. So I need Atleast a 100 point increase.
I would request people to please introduce me to a good verbal focused course as well.

Also please guide me how is my quant score? Is it weak normal or good enough for my target score? In my 2 official mock tests I got Q41 and Q47.
Hi UmairAftab,

Your quantitative score puts you somewhere in the middle (55%) globally. It's really close to the Q47 (61%) you got on your second practice test, and above the Q41 (41%) you got on your first test. Your verbal score is a little below average though (36%).

You'll have to work on both sections to get to a 680:
1. With a Q51 (96%) and a V30 (58%)
2. With a Q50 (85%) and a V31-32 (61-66%)
3. With a Q49 (74%) and a V33-34 (68-71%)
4. With a Q48 (67%) and a V34-35 (71-76%)

This means that you'll need to get at least a 60% on your verbal section (but preferably a 70% to take some of the pressure off your quant).
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29 Mar 2019, 07:12
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UmairAftab wrote:
Gave my GMAT Exam today. Got a Q45 and V24 and IR 4. 570 total. Same as official test score that I got

Please guide me how I should improve this.

My target score is 680. So I need Atleast a 100 point increase.
I would request people to please introduce me to a good verbal focused course as well.

Also please guide me how is my quant score? Is it weak normal or good enough for my target score? In my 2 official mock tests I got Q41 and Q47.
Hi UmairAftab,

Your quantitative score puts you somewhere in the middle (55%) globally. It's really close to the Q47 (61%) you got on your second practice test, and above the Q41 (41%) you got on your first test. Your verbal score is a little below average though (36%).

You'll have to work on both sections to get to a 680:
1. With a Q51 (96%) and a V30 (58%)
2. With a Q50 (85%) and a V31-32 (61-66%)
3. With a Q49 (74%) and a V33-34 (68-71%)
4. With a Q48 (67%) and a V34-35 (71-76%)

This means that you'll need to get at least a 60% on your verbal section (but preferably a 70% to take some of the pressure off your quant).

How would you suggest I prepare for it? I previously used Manhattan GMAT books for quant, A mix of GMATPrepNow and Economist GMAT for verbal. And OG 10th addition for practice.

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29 Mar 2019, 19:10
Hi UmairAftab,

In a prior post, you stated that your Score Goal was 650; if your Goal is now 680, then you'll likely require at least another 2 months of consistent, guided study to raise this Official Score to that point that you can consistently score 680 - and you'll have to make significant improvements to how you handle BOTH the Quant and Verbal sections. Thankfully, the GMAT is a consistent, predictable Exam, so you CAN train to score at a higher level.

1) What application deadline(s) are you currently facing?
2) Going forward, how many hours do you think you can consistently study each week?

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29 Mar 2019, 19:55
EMPOWERgmatRichC wrote:
Hi UmairAftab,

In a prior post, you stated that your Score Goal was 650; if your Goal is now 680, then you'll likely require at least another 2 months of consistent, guided study to raise this Official Score to that point that you can consistently score 680 - and you'll have to make significant improvements to how you handle BOTH the Quant and Verbal sections. Thankfully, the GMAT is a consistent, predictable Exam, so you CAN train to score at a higher level.

1) What application deadline(s) are you currently facing?
2) Going forward, how many hours do you think you can consistently study each week?

GMAT assassins aren't born, they're made,
Rich

no Deadlines, I missed them for this year so I have all the time in the world. I can give around 1-2 hours daily.
Please guide me on how I could improve this score? Practice? Focusing on concepts?

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30 Mar 2019, 11:44
Hi UmairAftab,

While I imagine that it's a bit disappointing to have missed out on this year's application deadlines, the opportunity to significantly improve your GMAT Score (and thus, apply later with a stronger overall application) cannot be overlooked.

To start, you might choose to purchase the Enhanced Score Report. While the ESR doesn’t provide a lot of information, there are usually a few data points that we can use to define what went wrong on Test Day (and what you should work on to score higher). If you purchase the ESR, then I'll be happy to analyze it for you.

Beyond that, it would help to know a bit more about how you were scoring on your practice CATs (and how you took those Exams):

1) On what dates did you take each of your CATs and how did you score on EACH (including the Quant and Verbal Scaled Scores for each)?
2) Did you take the ENTIRE CAT each time (including the Essay and IR sections)?
3) Did you take them at home?
4) Did you take them at the same time of day as when you took your Official GMAT?
5) Did you ever do ANYTHING during your CATs that you couldn't do on Test Day (pause the CAT, skip sections, take longer breaks, etc.)?
6) Did you ever take a CAT more than once? Had you seen any of the questions BEFORE (re: on a prior CAT, in an online forum or in a practice set)?

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31 Mar 2019, 10:28
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Hi UmairAftab,

I’m glad you reached out, and I’m happy to help. Your quant score is pretty solid; however, to help boost your score by 100 points, you probably want to improve both your quant and verbal skills, so you can maximize your score gain. That said, I’m happy to provide some advice on how to improve those skills.

Sentence Correction is a bit of a different animal compared to Reading Comprehension and Critical Reasoning. There are three aspects to getting correct answers to GMAT Sentence Correction questions: what you know, such as grammar rules, what you see, such as violations of grammar rules and the logic of sentence structure, and what you do, such as carefully considering each answer choice in the context of the non-underlined portion of the sentence. To drive up your Sentence Correction score, you likely will have to work on all three of those aspects.

Regarding what you know, first and foremost, you MUST know your grammar rules. Let's be clear, though: GMAT Sentence Correction is not just a test of knowledge of grammar rules. The reason for learning grammar rules is so that you can determine what sentences convey and whether sentences are well-constructed. In fact, in many cases, incorrect answers to Sentence Correction questions are grammatically flawless. Thus, often your task is to use your knowledge of grammar rules to determine which answer choice creates the most logical sentence meaning and structure.

This determination of whether sentences are well-constructed and logical is the second aspect of finding correct answers to Sentence Correction questions, what you see. To develop this skill, you probably have to slow way down. You won't develop this skill by spending under two minutes per question. For a while, anyway, you have to spend time with each question, maybe even ten or fifteen minutes on one question sometimes, analyzing every answer choice until you see the details that you have to see in order to choose the correct answer. As you go through the answer choices, consider the meaning conveyed by each version of the sentence. Does the meaning make sense? Even if you can tell what the version is SUPPOSED to convey, does the version really convey that meaning? Is there a verb to go with the subject? Do all pronouns clearly refer to nouns? By slowing way down and looking for these details, you learn to see what you have to see in order to clearly understand which answer to a Sentence Correction question is correct.

There is only one correct answer to any Sentence Correction question, there are clear reasons why that choice is correct and the others are not, and those reasons are not that the correct version simply "sounds right." In fact, the correct version often sounds a little off at first. That correct answers may sound a little off is not surprising. If the correct answer were always the one that sounded right, then most people most of the time would get Sentence Correction questions correct, without really knowing why the wrong answers were wrong and the correct answers were correct. So, you have to go beyond choosing what "sounds right" and learn to clearly see the logical reasons why one choice is better than all of the others.

As for the third aspect of getting Sentence Correction questions correct, what you do, the main thing you have to do is be very careful. You have to make sure that you are truly considering the structures of sentences and the meanings conveyed rather than allowing yourself to be tricked into choosing trap answers that sound right but don't convey meanings that make sense. You also have to make sure that you put some real energy into finding the correct answers. Finding the correct answer to a Sentence Correction question may take bouncing from choice to choice repeatedly until you start to see the differences between the choices that make all choices wrong except for one. Often, when you first look at the choices, only one or two seem obviously incorrect. It may take time for you to see what you have to see. Getting the right answers takes a certain work ethic. You have to be determined to see the differences and to figure out the precise reasons that one choice is correct.

To improve what you do when you answer Sentence Correction questions, seek to become aware of how you are going about answering them. Are you being careful and looking for logic and details, or are you quickly eliminating choices that sound a little off and then choosing the best of the rest? If you choose an incorrect answer, consider what you did that resulted in your arriving at that answer and what you could do differently in order to arrive at correct answers more consistently. Furthermore, see how many questions you can get correct in a row as you practice. If you break your streak by missing one, consider what you could have done differently to extend your streak.

As with your Critical Reasoning and Reading Comprehension regimens, after learning a particular Sentence Correction topic, engage in focused practice with 30 questions or more that involve that topic. As your skills improve, you will then want to practice with questions that test you on skills from multiple Sentence Correction topics.

Now, regarding quant, you seem to be in much better shape. If you can improve to at least a Q47, you should be in a pretty good spot. Since you recently scored a Q45, you clearly don’t need to go back and learn the foundations of GMAT quant; however, you still should engage in a process of linear learning and focused practice to find and fix any gaps in your quant knowledge. For example, if you are reviewing Number Properties, be sure that you practice 50 or more questions just from Number Properties: LCM, GCF, units digit patterns, divisibility, remainders, etc. As you do such practice, do a thorough analysis of each question that you don't get right. If you got a remainder question wrong, ask yourself why. Did you make a careless mistake? Did you not properly apply the remainder formula? Was there a concept you did not understand in the question? By carefully analyzing your mistakes, you will be able to efficiently fix your weaknesses and in turn improve your GMAT quant skills. Number Properties is just one example; follow this process for all quant topics.

Each time you strengthen your understanding of a topic and your skill in answering questions of a particular type, you increase your odds of hitting your score goal. You know that there are types of questions that you are happy to see and types that you would rather not see, and types of questions that you take a long time to answer correctly. Learn to more effectively answer the types of questions that you would rather not see, and make them into your favorite types.

So, work on accuracy and generally finding correct answers, work on specific weaker areas one by one to make them strong areas, and when you take a practice GMAT or the real thing, take all the time per question available to do your absolute best to get right answers consistently. The GMAT is essentially a game of seeing how many right answers you can get in the time allotted. Approach the test with that conception in mind, and focus intently on the question in front of you with one goal in mind: getting a CORRECT answer.

Regarding verbal resources, in addition to hearing from folks on this thread, you should check out the GMAT Club reviews for the best verbal courses. You also may find my article with more information regarding
how to score a 700+ on the GMAT helpful.

Feel free to reach out with any further questions. Good luck!
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Hi UmairAftab,

I’m glad you reached out, and I’m happy to help. Your quant score is pretty solid; however, to help boost your score by 100 points, you probably want to improve both your quant and verbal skills, so you can maximize your score gain. That said, I’m happy to provide some advice on how to improve those skills.

Sentence Correction is a bit of a different animal compared to Reading Comprehension and Critical Reasoning. There are three aspects to getting correct answers to GMAT Sentence Correction questions: what you know, such as grammar rules, what you see, such as violations of grammar rules and the logic of sentence structure, and what you do, such as carefully considering each answer choice in the context of the non-underlined portion of the sentence. To drive up your Sentence Correction score, you likely will have to work on all three of those aspects.

Regarding what you know, first and foremost, you MUST know your grammar rules. Let's be clear, though: GMAT Sentence Correction is not just a test of knowledge of grammar rules. The reason for learning grammar rules is so that you can determine what sentences convey and whether sentences are well-constructed. In fact, in many cases, incorrect answers to Sentence Correction questions are grammatically flawless. Thus, often your task is to use your knowledge of grammar rules to determine which answer choice creates the most logical sentence meaning and structure.

This determination of whether sentences are well-constructed and logical is the second aspect of finding correct answers to Sentence Correction questions, what you see. To develop this skill, you probably have to slow way down. You won't develop this skill by spending under two minutes per question. For a while, anyway, you have to spend time with each question, maybe even ten or fifteen minutes on one question sometimes, analyzing every answer choice until you see the details that you have to see in order to choose the correct answer. As you go through the answer choices, consider the meaning conveyed by each version of the sentence. Does the meaning make sense? Even if you can tell what the version is SUPPOSED to convey, does the version really convey that meaning? Is there a verb to go with the subject? Do all pronouns clearly refer to nouns? By slowing way down and looking for these details, you learn to see what you have to see in order to clearly understand which answer to a Sentence Correction question is correct.

There is only one correct answer to any Sentence Correction question, there are clear reasons why that choice is correct and the others are not, and those reasons are not that the correct version simply "sounds right." In fact, the correct version often sounds a little off at first. That correct answers may sound a little off is not surprising. If the correct answer were always the one that sounded right, then most people most of the time would get Sentence Correction questions correct, without really knowing why the wrong answers were wrong and the correct answers were correct. So, you have to go beyond choosing what "sounds right" and learn to clearly see the logical reasons why one choice is better than all of the others.

As for the third aspect of getting Sentence Correction questions correct, what you do, the main thing you have to do is be very careful. You have to make sure that you are truly considering the structures of sentences and the meanings conveyed rather than allowing yourself to be tricked into choosing trap answers that sound right but don't convey meanings that make sense. You also have to make sure that you put some real energy into finding the correct answers. Finding the correct answer to a Sentence Correction question may take bouncing from choice to choice repeatedly until you start to see the differences between the choices that make all choices wrong except for one. Often, when you first look at the choices, only one or two seem obviously incorrect. It may take time for you to see what you have to see. Getting the right answers takes a certain work ethic. You have to be determined to see the differences and to figure out the precise reasons that one choice is correct.

To improve what you do when you answer Sentence Correction questions, seek to become aware of how you are going about answering them. Are you being careful and looking for logic and details, or are you quickly eliminating choices that sound a little off and then choosing the best of the rest? If you choose an incorrect answer, consider what you did that resulted in your arriving at that answer and what you could do differently in order to arrive at correct answers more consistently. Furthermore, see how many questions you can get correct in a row as you practice. If you break your streak by missing one, consider what you could have done differently to extend your streak.

As with your Critical Reasoning and Reading Comprehension regimens, after learning a particular Sentence Correction topic, engage in focused practice with 30 questions or more that involve that topic. As your skills improve, you will then want to practice with questions that test you on skills from multiple Sentence Correction topics.

Now, regarding quant, you seem to be in much better shape. If you can improve to at least a Q47, you should be in a pretty good spot. Since you recently scored a Q45, you clearly don’t need to go back and learn the foundations of GMAT quant; however, you still should engage in a process of linear learning and focused practice to find and fix any gaps in your quant knowledge. For example, if you are reviewing Number Properties, be sure that you practice 50 or more questions just from Number Properties: LCM, GCF, units digit patterns, divisibility, remainders, etc. As you do such practice, do a thorough analysis of each question that you don't get right. If you got a remainder question wrong, ask yourself why. Did you make a careless mistake? Did you not properly apply the remainder formula? Was there a concept you did not understand in the question? By carefully analyzing your mistakes, you will be able to efficiently fix your weaknesses and in turn improve your GMAT quant skills. Number Properties is just one example; follow this process for all quant topics.

Each time you strengthen your understanding of a topic and your skill in answering questions of a particular type, you increase your odds of hitting your score goal. You know that there are types of questions that you are happy to see and types that you would rather not see, and types of questions that you take a long time to answer correctly. Learn to more effectively answer the types of questions that you would rather not see, and make them into your favorite types.

So, work on accuracy and generally finding correct answers, work on specific weaker areas one by one to make them strong areas, and when you take a practice GMAT or the real thing, take all the time per question available to do your absolute best to get right answers consistently. The GMAT is essentially a game of seeing how many right answers you can get in the time allotted. Approach the test with that conception in mind, and focus intently on the question in front of you with one goal in mind: getting a CORRECT answer.

Regarding verbal resources, in addition to hearing from folks on this thread, you should check out the GMAT Club reviews for the best verbal courses. You also may find my article with more information regarding
how to score a 700+ on the GMAT helpful.

Feel free to reach out with any further questions. Good luck!

Thank you for taking your time out and giving such a nice reply. This was exactly the type of answer I was looking for. Thank you

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