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Do I have to share bad grades for degree I didn't complete? [#permalink] New post   08 Jul 2018, 18:00
I went to grad school for a year, i was in a PhD program but dropped out due to bad grades, i did not receive any sort of degree from the institution. Will i have to share these bad grades when applying to business school? I was planning on just not mentioning them since i didn’t even receive a degree, but will they ask for them specifically? It was 7 years ago and i have an otherwise solid application.

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I went to grad school for a year, i was in a PhD program but dropped out due to bad grades, i did not receive any sort of degree from the institution. Will i have to share these bad grades when applying to business school? I was planning on just not mentioning them since i didn’t even receive a degree, but will they ask for them specifically? It was 7 years ago and i have an otherwise solid application.

Targets are Booth, Kellogg, MIT, Coulmbia


If there any questions in the application about gaps more than 3 months, then you might be better off to just produce the grades and address it in the optional. But if the application does not ask that question I don't see any reason to introduce…unless there is a specific directive to disclose all transcripts. You don't want to lie but at the same time similar to your resume you can shape would you choose to share. Does this help?
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Do I have to share bad grades for degree I didn't complete? [#permalink] New post   08 Jul 2018, 18:30
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I went to grad school for a year, i was in a PhD program but dropped out due to bad grades, i did not receive any sort of degree from the institution. Will i have to share these bad grades when applying to business school? I was planning on just not mentioning them since i didn’t even receive a degree, but will they ask for them specifically? It was 7 years ago and i have an otherwise solid application.

Targets are Booth, Kellogg, MIT, Coulmbia


If there any questions in the application about gaps more than 3 months, then you might be better off to just produce the grades and address it in the optional. But if the application does not ask that question I don't see any reason to introduce…unless there is a specific directive to disclose all transcripts. You don't want to lie but at the same time similar to your resume you can shape would you choose to share. Does this help?


I think I will definitely have to mention that I was in a PhD program for a year as part of my application right? If I mention it at all, do I have to provide a transcript? I started an application with UNC (a program i don't intend on applying to) just to see what they require, here is what they require for education information, do you think I would have to provide my grad transcript for a question like this?

From UNC's application:
"Please list all colleges and universities you have attended, starting with the institution where you received your undergraduate degree. If you completed a double major, please enter both in the 'major' box, separated by a semi-colon.

We require a scanned copy of the transcript from every institution attended, including community colleges, summer sessions and extension programs, be uploaded before the application can be submitted. Please review the file for legibility before uploading. If an institution attended is international, please upload the literal English translation of that transcript and a copy of the degree certification which shows the degree and year conferred."
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Re: Do I have to share bad grades for degree I didn't complete? [#permalink] New post   08 Jul 2018, 19:05
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I went to grad school for a year, i was in a PhD program but dropped out due to bad grades, i did not receive any sort of degree from the institution. Will i have to share these bad grades when applying to business school? I was planning on just not mentioning them since i didn’t even receive a degree, but will they ask for them specifically? It was 7 years ago and i have an otherwise solid application.

Targets are Booth, Kellogg, MIT, Coulmbia


If there any questions in the application about gaps more than 3 months, then you might be better off to just produce the grades and address it in the optional. But if the application does not ask that question I don't see any reason to introduce…unless there is a specific directive to disclose all transcripts. You don't want to lie but at the same time similar to your resume you can shape would you choose to share. Does this help?


I think I will definitely have to mention that I was in a PhD program for a year as part of my application right? If I mention it at all, do I have to provide a transcript? I started an application with UNC (a program i don't intend on applying to) just to see what they require, here is what they require for education information, do you think I would have to provide my grad transcript for a question like this?

From UNC's application:
"Please list all colleges and universities you have attended, starting with the institution where you received your undergraduate degree. If you completed a double major, please enter both in the 'major' box, separated by a semi-colon.

We require a scanned copy of the transcript from every institution attended, including community colleges, summer sessions and extension programs, be uploaded before the application can be submitted. Please review the file for legibility before uploading. If an institution attended is international, please upload the literal English translation of that transcript and a copy of the degree certification which shows the degree and year conferred."

If you were working during this one year and have no gap on your resume it would be safe to omit.

If there is a gap in your employment history because of the PhD for more than 3-4 months, you should include.
Give a solid/ valid reason for it. A PhD is a long commitment so dropping out a year later is only one fourth of the duration covered. However, you'd want to give the adcom the assurance that you will be a serious student at their college, and probably the PhD did not fit your scheme of things from a career perspective and you decided to quit only after evaluating the situation, but you are fully prepared for the MBA


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If there is a gap in your employment history because of the PhD for more than 3-4 months, you should include.
Give a solid/ valid reason for it. A PhD is a long commitment so dropping out a year later is only one fourth of the duration covered. However, you'd want to give the adcom the assurance that you will be a serious student at their college, and probably the PhD did not fit your scheme of things from a career perspective and you decided to quit only after evaluating the situation, but you are fully prepared for the MBA



Thank you for your responses, I appreciate it. So I was doing research full time for a professor at the grad university so there won't be a "gap" on my resume where it looks like i was doing nothing, but I will have to say on my MBA applications that I was in grad school for a year. Between essays and interviews, I think that I will eventually have to disclose that I was in a grad program my first year after undergrad. Are you saying if I tell them I was in a PhD program at all I need to include my grades from it in my application, but that if I omit my year in the program entirely I don't have to include my grades?
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