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10 Jul 2018, 19:16
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Hello all,
So first for some background. I am a rising senior engineering student at the University of Pittsburgh that will be trying to apply to dual MBA/MS Engr programs in the fall. There aren't a ton of these programs, but the schools I am interested in (University of Pittsburgh, MIT as a reach) seem to except either the GRE or/and the GMAT without preference. My plan was to take both the GRE and the GMAT and basically send which ever I did better on. However, I am concerned about how big of a gap my performance is between the two, and am questioning whether it is even worth it to pursue the GMAT further.
I took the diagnostic test in the official guide last week, and I did fine with most of the verbal questions (I scored excellent in all question types except sentence correction where I got above average), however was very disappointed with the quantitative results (scored average in all question types). Today, I did the full official CAT practice test #1, and the story only got worse:
Verbal = 40 ----> 91%percentile
Quantitative = 42 ----> 45%percentile
IR = 7 ----> 82%percentile
Total score = 670 --->81%percentile
I have taken 2 official GRE practice tests, and in both those I was scoring ~165 in both the verbal and quantitative sections, so usually around the 92% percentile per section. What is going with this major gap between the tests? I mean for context, I have a 3.9/4.0 GPA with a double major in Engineering. Clearly the engineering math is very different from the GMAT math, but for somebody that works with math/numbers in general as much as me, scoring in the 45%percentile is frankly shocking. To me the quantitative section and the sentence correction problems on the GMAT seems bizarre and convoluted. Honestly, my expectation going into this was my baseline score would be in the +90%percentile and I would just have to improve from there. That seems to have held true with the GRE, but the GMAT seems to be a totally different story. Does anyone have any advice to proceed?
Thank you for your time.
So first for some background. I am a rising senior engineering student at the University of Pittsburgh that will be trying to apply to dual MBA/MS Engr programs in the fall. There aren't a ton of these programs, but the schools I am interested in (University of Pittsburgh, MIT as a reach) seem to except either the GRE or/and the GMAT without preference. My plan was to take both the GRE and the GMAT and basically send which ever I did better on. However, I am concerned about how big of a gap my performance is between the two, and am questioning whether it is even worth it to pursue the GMAT further.
I took the diagnostic test in the official guide last week, and I did fine with most of the verbal questions (I scored excellent in all question types except sentence correction where I got above average), however was very disappointed with the quantitative results (scored average in all question types). Today, I did the full official CAT practice test #1, and the story only got worse:
Verbal = 40 ----> 91%percentile
Quantitative = 42 ----> 45%percentile
IR = 7 ----> 82%percentile
Total score = 670 --->81%percentile
I have taken 2 official GRE practice tests, and in both those I was scoring ~165 in both the verbal and quantitative sections, so usually around the 92% percentile per section. What is going with this major gap between the tests? I mean for context, I have a 3.9/4.0 GPA with a double major in Engineering. Clearly the engineering math is very different from the GMAT math, but for somebody that works with math/numbers in general as much as me, scoring in the 45%percentile is frankly shocking. To me the quantitative section and the sentence correction problems on the GMAT seems bizarre and convoluted. Honestly, my expectation going into this was my baseline score would be in the +90%percentile and I would just have to improve from there. That seems to have held true with the GRE, but the GMAT seems to be a totally different story. Does anyone have any advice to proceed?
Thank you for your time.
10 Jul 2018, 22:57
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Hey aj2pointo
Welcome to GMATClub!
To begin with, Q42 is not a very bad score at the beginning of your preparation.
The percentile may make it seem like a terrible score. I would recommend you
to try and understand what were the places you made mistakes in. Once you
complete that, go through concepts from the Manhattan strategy guides. After
completing these concepts, solve some problems(from the links given below)
You can take another test to understand where you actually stand. The reason
you may have scored low is that you have a few deficiencies in the concepts of
some specific topics. Data Sufficiency could be one of the reasons. This article
can help understand what is needed to solve Data Sufficiency.
You could also go through the concepts from the Quantitative Mega-Thread.
These are some links which you could use to practice some GMAT questions
1. PS Directory by Topic and Difficulty
2. DS Directory by Topic and Difficulty
Last but not the least, you could go through this post - Q44 -> Q50
Hope this helps you.
Welcome to GMATClub!
To begin with, Q42 is not a very bad score at the beginning of your preparation.
The percentile may make it seem like a terrible score. I would recommend you
to try and understand what were the places you made mistakes in. Once you
complete that, go through concepts from the Manhattan strategy guides. After
completing these concepts, solve some problems(from the links given below)
You can take another test to understand where you actually stand. The reason
you may have scored low is that you have a few deficiencies in the concepts of
some specific topics. Data Sufficiency could be one of the reasons. This article
can help understand what is needed to solve Data Sufficiency.
You could also go through the concepts from the Quantitative Mega-Thread.
These are some links which you could use to practice some GMAT questions
1. PS Directory by Topic and Difficulty
2. DS Directory by Topic and Difficulty
Last but not the least, you could go through this post - Q44 -> Q50
Hope this helps you.
11 Jul 2018, 00:21
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aj2pointo
While that percentile (Q42 is actually 43%) does look a little low, there are a few things you should consider:
1. GMAT quant is considered slightly tougher than GRE quant. Schools are aware that they shouldn't compare percentiles from both exams directly.
2. A low score could be due to lack of familiarity with the question formats (especially DS). You'll be in a better position to take a call if you work through some SC concepts and some official GMAT questions (especially quant questions).
3. With 165 on both sections of an official GRE practice test, you could just take the actual GRE (a 330 or a 330+ score should work anywhere). Just check what the scores and acceptance rates are like at your target schools. You should also check the profiles of the candidates admitted on the basis of a GRE score.
Finally, if you're interested in why GMAT quant scores are the way they are, read this.
