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New post 24 Jun 2010, 01:48
(You're missing the tax deduction.)

But that's not really relevant. The conclusion is, that profit margins will be higher. To assess whether that's true, it would help to know if city stores reduce there prices to keep the profit margin the same (since they have lower costs). If they do, the conclusion is challenged in that profit margins won't be higher in the city.
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E for me as that's the only choice that is important to consider in evaluating the argument. If the price of fish lowers the profit margin will be impacted.

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New post 10 Jun 2011, 02:28
E for me as well.
Good question realy.
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New post 10 Jun 2011, 06:37
I don't get how E is the answer

Lets say cost in Eastville was 10$ and also in suburbs

Due to lower taxes cost became 9 $ for the city and remained 10$ for suburbs

Now profit =Selling Price-Cost Price

For city if Selling Price=20 then Profit would be 20-9=11
FOr suburbs Selling Price =20 then Profit would be 20-10=10

Hence Profit for city is higher even if the Selling Price is the same as suburbs

Now if I decrease the Selling Price in the city

Lets say is 19 then profit would be 19-9=10 so the profit will decrease

Am i missing a point here ??
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I don't get how E is the answer

Lets say cost in Eastville was 10$ and also in suburbs

Due to lower taxes cost became 9 $ for the city and remained 10$ for suburbs

Now profit =Selling Price-Cost Price

For city if Selling Price=20 then Profit would be 20-9=11
FOr suburbs Selling Price =20 then Profit would be 20-10=10

Hence Profit for city is higher even if the Selling Price is the same as suburbs

Now if I decrease the Selling Price in the city

Lets say is 19 then profit would be 19-9=10 so the profit will decrease

Am i missing a point here ??


There is nothing wrong with your interpretation. Let's see what question is trying to ask:

Question is asking which option will help us weigh the authenticity of author's conclusion.

Author's conclusion:
Because the city's fish sellers will have to pay lower taxes than sub-urban fish sellers, doing business in the city will be more profitable.

E says: Let me check the validity of the conclusion:

Evaluation:
Whether the city sellers will be forced/obliged to set a price much lower than the sub-urban sellers' price?

Ans: Yes!! Really, the conclusion is baseless then because I know I won't make profit if I set up my business in the city, for I will have to sell my fishes at a much lower price. Even though I will pay lower taxes, what's the use if I make less profit on sale.

Ans: No!! Wow, that's wonderful. I will surely set up my shop in the city because the conclusion was indeed true. Now, I can sell the fishes at the same price as sub-urban sellers do. Plus, I pay less taxes than them. Surely, I will make more profits.

You saw how the evaluation question proposed in the statement E helped us validate author's conclusion.

E is the best answer choice.
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Because it's all about the profit margin, answer explicitly has to state the difference in either price (taking cost to do business is same) or cost (taking price is same) for those 2 locations.

(A) More fish wholesalers are located within the city than in the surrounding suburbs. No Price or Cost
(B) Any people who currently own seafood stores in the suburbs surrounding Eastville will relocate their businesses nearer to the city. No Price or Cost
(C) The wholesale price of fish is likely to fall in the future Still NO
(D) Fish has always cost about the same at seafood stores throughout Eastville and its surrounding suburbs Still NO
(E) Seafood stores within the city will in the future set prices that are lower than those at suburban seafood stores BINGO!!!
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New post 10 Jun 2011, 10:24
thanks a lot fluke !! Your explanation is spot on !!

I am reading POWERSCORE BIBLE and i bet this way of approaching the questions must have come from there. I still have to read the chapter "Evaluate the argument"

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zest4mba wrote:
thanks a lot fluke !! Your explanation is spot on !!

I am reading POWERSCORE BIBLE and i bet this way of approaching the questions must have come from there. I still have to read the chapter "Evaluate the argument"

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E for me..
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tough one for me to do within a minute n half...i fell for D..
thanks guys to point out it as E...good learning :-)
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E if the prices are set low then profit margin may not increase.Hence the OA.
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Btween C and E as contenders, I picked E- the most sound answer.
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The answer for me is E because if the price is same in Eastville and its suburbs and in spite of the low taxes in the city the seafood stores do not lower their price then why would customer from suburbs come to to the city when they can buy it near their homes at the same price. So for the argument to hold true, we need to know if the price of the fish would be priced lower.
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Answer E is correct

For ensuring the argument, one should identify whether the purchasing price of fish will remain same or tumble due to the market mechanism like buyer compete one with another for private benefit if there is opportunity for decreasing the price.
For example
Previous: city $ 50, suburban $50 (equal margin 15)
Future: city $40, suburban $ 50 (equal margin 15) :idea:
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Fish currently costs about the same at seafood stores throughout Eastville and its surrounding suburbs. Seafood stores buy fish from the same wholesalers and at the same prices, and other business expenses have also been about the same. But new tax breaks will substantially lower the cost of doing business within the city. Therefore, in the future, profit margins will be higher at seafood stores within the city than at suburban seafood stores.

For the purposes of evaluating the argument, it would be most useful to know whether

(A) More fish wholesalers are located within the city than in the surrounding suburbs
(B) Any people who currently own seafood stores in the suburbs surrounding Eastville will relocate their businesses nearer to the city
(C) The wholesale price of fish is likely to fall in the future
(D) Fish has always cost about the same at seafood stores throughout Eastville and its surrounding suburbs
(E) Seafood stores within the city will in the future set prices that are lower than those at suburban seafood stores

My 2 cents,

For an evaluation problem like this, the answer choice should be able to either strengthen or weaken the argument.

Choice D,
if assuming true, the conclusion will be strengthened. -> Profit margin in the city will be increased.

Then,
revert the choice D -> Fish hasn't always cost about the same at blah-blah.
if assuming true, you don't know whether the cost in city is less or more than the ones in the suburbs.
because there are two possible cases for the fish
1) $ in city > $ in suburb
2) $ in city < $ in suburb

Choice E,
Either you revert the choice or you assume the choice to be true, the conclusion will be either strengthened or weakened.

Choice E wins.

Please correct my reasoning if wrong.
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New post 03 Jul 2012, 07:45
I will vote for E because

question is asking to "evaluating the argument" - when u evaluate an argument we generally weaken the conclusion and the answer choices are Premises

Conclusion: "in the future, profit margins will be higher at seafood stores within the city than at suburban seafood stores"

Premise 1: new tax breaks will substantially lower the cost of doing business within the city.
premise 2: Fish currently costs about the same throughout Eastville and its surrounding suburbs

(A) More fish wholesalers are located within the city than in the surrounding suburbs
--> Out of scope - not talking about number of wholesales

(B) Any people who currently own seafood stores in the suburbs surrounding Eastville will relocate their businesses nearer to the city
--> Out of scope ardument doesnot talk about relocating doesnot impact out conclusion

(C) The wholesale price of fish is likely to fall in the future
--> already a premise cannot usee it again

(D) Fish has always cost about the same at seafood stores throughout Eastville and its surrounding suburbs
--> already a premise cannot usee it again

(E) Seafood stores within the city will in the future set prices that are lower than those at suburban seafood stores
--> if they set prices that are lower, then will weaken the conclusion of higher profit margins

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Answer is E.

It's out of D or E for sure, BUT..

Question states, 'Therefore, in the future,'.. so we're looking ahead, not at past prices which is why D is incorrect. It is not relevant that historically prices are the same in the city and the suburbs.

Looking at the effect the tax break will have going forward i.e. in future, hence E.
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This one's an E. And this is why:

(A) More fish wholesalers are located within the city than in the surrounding suburbs
Does not affect the conclusion in any way.

(B) Any people who currently own seafood stores in the suburbs surrounding Eastville will relocate their businesses nearer to the city
Nope. Irrelevant.

(C) The wholesale price of fish is likely to fall in the future
This comes close, but is too isolated to one part of the conclusion.

(D) Fish has always cost about the same at seafood stores throughout Eastville and its surrounding suburbs
Again worded in such a way that seems to tackle the argument and can seem closer than C, and therefore can be misleading. It's incorrect because it talks about the past not the future.

(E) Seafood stores within the city will in the future set prices that are lower than those at suburban seafood stores
This is the one! Knowing this will ascertain whether profit margins will be higher or will remain the same.
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New post 23 Jun 2013, 17:20
Answer: E

The conclusion of the passage says that the profit margins in the city would be higher compared to that of the suburbs due to the tax breaks in the city.

Hence, the most important information that we would need to know to determine the profits would be how the prices are affected in the city (or the suburbs) after this change. If the prices are lowered in the city than the profit margins would reduce. If the prices in the suburbs have been reduced to match the margins in the city, then profit margin in the city would remain equal to that of the suburbs.

Giving 'E' as the option.
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