landoro15 wrote:
ScottTargetTestPrep wrote:
landoro15 wrote:
Hello! I am in the middle of GMAT study right now and am curious to hear an expert's opinion on whether or not I should continue my strategy or whether I should change it/potentially focus on the GRE. I am aiming for a mid-700s score at the least (but want to know if this is realistic). I have been in GMAT study mode for a while and outside opinion would be incredible!
I just graduated university (top 20 school in the US, think WUSTL/Emory/Vanderbilt/Northwestern/Notre Dame), and am going to work in consulting at a fairly well-known firm. During my second semester of senior year, I decided to take the GMAT and put forth a fairly-serious studying effort. Other stuff got in the way so I ended up reading through the
MGMAT math, doing about half of the practice problems at the end of each chapter, making some flashcards, but did not get to the verbal at all. To compensate, three nights before the GMAT I watched 2-3 YouTube videos on GMAT verbal rules.
The night before the GMAT, I was up late doing a homework assignment for a class, and combined with the nerves got about 5 hours of sleep. I went in and took the GMAT still not feeling too bad, and ended up with a 640 (Q36, V41). I ran out of time in the math section and ended up guessing for the last 2-3 questions, and was slightly surprised at the split - I was nervous that I would do worse than a 640 but was surprised at the low percentiles in Quant. I was below the 30th percentile (!!!), and after reviewing the Enhanced Score Report I was surprised at how terribly the quant seemed to go in terms of accuracy! Although arithmetic was >50th percentile, some sub-sections were much worse than <30th percentile. I went through all the
MGMAT books, felt like I understood the concepts/strategy, and did not feel like I bombed the quant section outside of the time management. It was definitely a blow to the self-esteem (especially because everybody on this forum/many of the people I know seem to be getting 45+ no problem)! I am not a quant wizard but I've always been fairly comfortable with numbers.
Fast forward about 3 months later, I had 1 month prior to starting work full time and began studying again. I started formulating a new strategy - I re-read the
MGMAT math making more flashcards, and for the past couple of days have been hitting the GMAT Club practice quizzes, aiming to do 30-60 problems a day. So far I have been focusing on 500 and 600 level questions, and am getting 50-70% correct, although about 50% of my errors are careless mistakes. I
do feel like I am making progress and learning.
Now I am 2 and a half weeks prior to taking the GMAT, and can basically continue prepping full time. I can dedicate 5-9 hours a day to studying without feeling excessively burned out, and am going to start
MGMAT CATs soon. I've heard stories of people/my friends with similar timelines score in the mid 700s and believe it is possible, but my questions are the following:
1) Is my strategy of focusing primarily on quant and only doing verbal questions on full-length CATs solid? Should I continue 500/600 level questions and trying to nail them with high accuracy, or should I throw in 700 level questions as well?
2) Is my goal of attaining mid 700s score at this point unrealistic? In other words, would I be better served not taking the GMAT before I start work and stretching out my studying over a longer period of time while I am working (which may be difficult bc I will likely be working 60-70 hours a week + travel), and saving the GMAC/
MGMAT CATs for this time period?
3) Given my strength in verbal (and I think my comparative strength in memorizing vocab), would it be more wise to instead shift my efforts toward the GRE? How much of my GMAT studying would translate over to content tested by the GRE?
Thank you so much in advance! Happy to provide any other data points if helpful.
You ask a great question, and I’m happy to help! First of all, it would be helpful to get an up-to-date GMAT score so we can determine whether your two-week timeline is realistic for you to achieve your score goal.
Thus, in short order, can you please take a (fresh) official practice exam from MBA.com and report back with your score breakdown?
Also, in the meantime, feel free to check out my article
How to Score a 700+ on the GMAT — A Mini Guide for Success.
Once you report back with your scores, we can discuss your situation further.
Hey Scott,
Thank you for your reply. I enjoyed reading that article, and would love to hear your thoughts/expertise in this situation.
I just took my first GMAC CAT on mba.com and scored a 670 (Q44, V38, IR5). Prior to taking this CAT I took 2 days off from GMAT studying to move into a new place, and honestly felt pretty rusty/unnerved jumping back into things, especially with quant (for example I spent 4-5 minutes on one of the first 5 questions and still may have gotten it wrong). I think this is due to having been out of the zone for a while. I also managed time atrociously on the IR section.
Nevertheless, the score surprised me. Since my official GMAT, my quant score increased by 8 points which was a pleasant surprise, and my verbal decreased by 3. Perhaps this is the result of studying purely quant for 2 weeks nearly full time, or perhaps it was chance.
I do feel capable of scoring 41+ on verbal with a bit of polishing off the rust but
really want to lock in that 46+ quant score. I would define this as my primary objective.
What do you think is the best path forward to maximize my score on test day? I would imagine the ROI is higher studying quant than verbal (other than SCs) especially as a native English speaker with relatively decent CR skills (reading/writing was my stronger point with SAT/ACT/APs), so should I just drill 600 level math questions and study areas where I am conceptually weaker? Should I continue doing CATs?
I welcome your thoughts (or anyone else if they are reading) here!
So, a 670 is a great starting point. With that said, it will almost certainly take you longer than two weeks to achieve your desired score goal. However, if you MUST take the test in two weeks because your job will start, then you can still take the test to see what happens. Worst case scenario, you cancel the score and continue your prep, no harm, no foul.
With that said, two weeks it not a tremendous amount of time, so at this point it may be helpful to continue to find and fix any lurking weaknesses.
For example, if you are reviewing Number Properties, be sure that you practice 50 or more questions just from Number Properties: LCM, GCF, units digit patterns, divisibility, remainders, etc. Once complete, do a thorough analysis of each incorrect question. If you got a remainder question wrong, ask yourself why you got it wrong. Did you make a careless mistake? Did you not properly apply the remainder formula? Was there a concept you did not understand in the question? By properly analyzing your mistakes, you will be able to more efficiently fix your weaknesses and in turn improve your GMAT quant knowledge. Number Properties is just one example; follow this process for all quant topics.
Each time you strengthen your understanding of a topic and your skill in answering questions of a particular type, you increase your odds of hitting your quant score goal. You know that there are types of questions that you are happy to see and types that you would rather not see, and questions that take you a long time to answer correctly. Learn to more effectively answer the types of questions that you would rather not see, and make them into your favorite types. Learn to correctly answer in two minutes or less questions that currently take you five minutes to answer. By finding, say, a dozen weaker quant areas and turning them into strong areas, you will make great progress toward hitting your quant score goal. If a dozen areas turn out not to be enough, make some more areas stronger.
Remember, you can follow this process for all verbal sections as well.
In about another week, you may consider taking one more practice exam to track your improvement.
To make your practice test conditions as realistic as possible, I recommend adhering to the following:
1) Plan to go the library and rent a private study room, or go to another quiet location to take the practice test. Do not take the test at your home. After all, you will not be taking your actual GMAT at home.
2) Do not skip any sections of the test. Yes, that means you must do the Integrated Reasoning section and the essay.
3) Do not take any additional breaks or do anything that you could not do on test day (such as pause the exam and go for a walk). It’s extremely important that you simulate test day in every way possible. Turn your cell phone off.
4) Do your scratch work with a wet-erase marker and pad similar to those provided at GMAT test centers.
In general, you should always give a practice test your best effort and treat it like the real deal! Remember, the practice test will not be an accurate gauge of your current GMAT skills unless you adhere closely to actual GMAT testing conditions when taking it. If you allow yourself to pause repeatedly, go over the allotted time for a section, or use a calculator during the Quant section, your score will not be accurate.
After taking each practice exam and getting some rest, you need to analyze your results. Begin by reviewing every question that you CORRECTLY answered. Take note of what you’re doing well and what skills and concepts are coming naturally to you. Take note of the question types with which you feel strong.
If you see the improvement you need, then that is awesome! If not, please reach out and we can continue to troubleshoot.
Either way, please reach out with any further questions.