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Frailty of understanding is in itself no proper target for scorn and mockery. But the unintelligent forfeit their claim to compassion when they begin to indulge in self-complacent airs, and to call themselves sane critics, meaning that they are mechanics. And when, relying upon their numbers, they pass from self-complacency to insolence, and reprove their betters for using the brains which God has not denied them, they dry up the fount of pity.

If a hale man walks along the street upon two sound legs, he is not liable to be chased by crowds of cripples vociferating ‗Go home and fetch your crutch.‘ If a reasoning man edits a classic rationally, he is. What a critic is, and what advantage he has over those who are not critics, can easily be shown by one example. Cicero‘s oration pro rege Deiotaro was edited between 1830 and 1840 by Klotz, Soldan, and Benecke. The best MS then known was the Erfurtensis, and all three editors pounced on this authority and clung to it, believing themselves safe. In 1841, Madvig, maintaining reason against superstition in Cicero‘s text as I now maintain it in Juvenal‘s, impugned 17 readings adopted from the Erfurtensis by these editors, and upheld the readings of inferior MSS. We now possess MSS still better than the Erfurtensis, and in 12 of the 17 places they contradict it; they confirm the inferior MSS and the superior critic.

But there are editors destitute of this discriminating faculty, so destitute that they cannot even conceive it to exist; and these are entangled in a task for which nature has neglected to equip them. What are they now to do? Set to and try to learn their trade? That is forbidden by sloth. Stand back and leave room for their superiors? That is forbidden by vanity. They must have a rule, a machine to do their thinking for them. If the rule is true, so much the better; if false, that cannot be helped: but one thing is necessary, a rule. A hundred years ago it was their rule to count the MSS and trust the majority. But this pillow was snatched from under them by the great critics of the 19 th century, and the truth that MSS must be weighed, not counted, is now too widely known to be ignored.

The sluggard has lost his pillow, but he has kept his nature, and must needs find something else to loll on; so he fabricates, to suit the change of season, his precious precept of following one MS wherever possible. Engendered by infirmity and designed for comfort, no wonder if it misses the truth at which it was never aimed. Its aim was purely humanitarian: to rescue incompetent editors alike from the toil of editing and from the shame of acknowledging that they cannot edit.
1. The author‘s discussion takes the reader to the topic of the Erfurtensis MS in
paragraph two. The example of this manuscript is relevant to the claim that:
A. the Erfurtensis MS is not very reliable.
B. no single MS can be assumed to be always right.
C. Madvig was a lazy editor.
D. MSS must be weighed, not counted.
E. every MS is either right or wrong

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2. According to the various arguments put forth by the author of the passage,
which of the following are true about the editing of classics?
I. It has not been undertaken in the case of Cicero.
II. It is sometimes undertaken by people who are unable to do it correctly.
III. There were important advances in the field during the 19th century.
A. I and II only
B. II and III only
C. I and III only
D. I, II and III
E. None of the above

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3. Suppose that the author is present at a panel discussion on the topic of this
passage where all of the following statements are made by other panellists.
According to the arguments he has put forth in the text, the author is LEAST
likely to agree with which of the following statements?
A. It should not be assumed that the majority of the MSS of a classical
text are correct.
B. Madvig was a better editor than Klotz, Soldan, or Benecke.
C. It is a mistake to think that one MS of a particular text is better than
another.
D. There is no simple rule for editing that eliminates the need for critical
discrimination.
E. The Erfurtensis was one of the best known MS in the period 1830-1840

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4. In spite of what may or may not appear in the first paragraphs of the
passage, the bulk of the passage is devoted to showing:
A. that incompetent editors have developed methods for avoiding the
difficulties of responsible editing.
B. that the Erfurtensis MS is no longer considered the best MS of Cicero‘s
pro rege Deiotaro.
C. that it was discovered in the nineteenth century that MSS must be
weighed, not merely counted.
D. that Cicero was editing more often during the 1830s than during any
other decade.
E. that responsible editing has become an extinct concept

OA -



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New post 11 Jan 2014, 09:49
1/2 right for this one... Not bad from my point of view (I am not good at RC...)!

This is a hard text! I get confused with the topic of the text and the questions are mainly focusing on one paragraph (second one)...

My answers: BABA (right answers: BBCA)

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Totally failed this one, had no idea what the point was,and I got stuck with what does this MS even meant :p
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Can someone explain question 3?
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Totally failed this one, had no idea what the point was,and I got stuck with what does this MS even meant :p



Agree :P

Can someone explain Q3 please and what this passage is trying to say!!! :?
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All correct 12 mins :( Could only understand parts of the paragraphs.. dense!
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6 mins 40 secs and got 3 out of 4. This is a very difficult RC as most of the discussion is unknown to the general reader. I still do not have a clue what an MS or an MSS is. :-|

MP - Editing is difficult and low-quality editors always find a way to escape hard work. The 19th century saw some great editors and nowadays low-quality editors are finding it hard to avoid bad editing.

1. The author‘s discussion takes the reader to the topic of the Erfurtensis MS in
paragraph two. The example of this manuscript is relevant to the claim that:
A. the Erfurtensis MS is not very reliable. Not the point of bringing it up even if it somewhat related
B. no single MS can be assumed to be always right. Bingo - the example is used to show that no single MS ( whatever that is !) is absolutely right.
C. Madvig was a lazy editor. BS option- maybe he was a bad editor but nothing is mentioned about lazy. in fact, he did more than his contemporaries...
D. MSS must be weighed, not counted. Mentioned in the passage but not in this context
E. every MS is either right or wrong Not mentioned

2. According to the various arguments put forth by the author of the passage,
which of the following are true about the editing of classics?
I. It has not been undertaken in the case of Cicero. YES it has! Two examples are shared in paragraph 2 w.r.t the same.
II. It is sometimes undertaken by people who are unable to do it correctly. Correct - this is the main point of the passage
III. There were important advances in the field during the 19th century. Correct - Author mentions 19th century giants / greats
A. I and II only
B. II and III only CORRECT CHOICE
C. I and III only
D. I, II and III
E. None of the above

BE CAREFUL Q3 is an "except" question
3. Suppose that the author is present at a panel discussion on the topic of this
passage where all of the following statements are made by other panellists.
According to the arguments he has put forth in the text, the author is LEAST
likely to agree with which of the following statements?
A. It should not be assumed that the majority of the MSS of a classical
text are correct. Yup - this is what the author mentions in paragraph 2
B. Madvig was a better editor than Klotz, Soldan, or Benecke. TRAP - even if it seems a bit extreme the author does mention it in the passage while introducing the contemporaries
C. It is a mistake to think that one MS of a particular text is better than
another. The author clearly favours MSS over MS in the paragraph
D. There is no simple rule for editing that eliminates the need for critical
discrimination. Yep - the author says editing is a tough task and most editors do not know how to do it.
E. The Erfurtensis was one of the best known MS in the period 1830-1840 Yes - clearly mentioned in para 2

Need to understand the MP to answer this one
4. In spite of what may or may not appear in the first paragraphs of the
passage, the bulk of the passage is devoted to showing:
A. that incompetent editors have developed methods for avoiding the
difficulties of responsible editing. BINGO - clearly mentioned by the author in the ending lines and the throughout the passage - this is the MP
B. that the Erfurtensis MS is no longer considered the best MS of Cicero‘s
pro rege Deiotaro. Too detailed to be the MP
C. that it was discovered in the nineteenth century that MSS must be
weighed, not merely counted. TRUE but detailed
D. that Cicero was editing more often during the 1830s than during any
other decade. BS Option
E. that responsible editing has become an extinct concept Not what author thinks - AUthor does say most are lazy editors implying some ( like the 19th-century ones) are exceptions


Verdict - Tough passage! I would say not GMAT like :-\

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dave13 - take a look at this one. Any idea from the passage itself what MS/ MSS could be? Can we compare what we think the MP of passage is?
Very confusing.

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dave13 - take a look at this one. Any idea from the passage itself what MS/ MSS could be? Can we compare what we think the MP of passage is?
Very confusing.

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hi Gladiator59 this is toughest passage i have ever read :lol: there were so many unknown words :)

i got questons, 1, 2, 3 correctly, the 4th one chose B, but later got it why B was wrong.

As for MS/ MSS it is an abbreviation of "manuscript". MP do you mean main purpose ? :lol:

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Yes MP is Main point. I threw a bit of jargon right back at the passage :-D

If MS is manuscript ( good guess) what could be MSS? .. Have a great weekend yourself :-)

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Yes MP is Main point. I threw a bit of jargon right back at the passage :-D

If MS is manuscript ( good guess) what could be MSS? .. Have a great weekend yourself :-)

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MS is an abbreviation of manuscript in singular form ( The best MS then known was )

MSS is an abbreviation of manuscripts in plural form :grin: (upheld the readings of inferior MSS)

Main point ? Well, Critics of 19 century put into into question/challenge the quality of edited manuscripts by 18th centutry editors.
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What in the world is MSS . 17 minutes 3 correct. Gladiator59 6 minutes what ? :O
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I think MS signifies "manuscripts".Nonetheless screwed up this RC.Not a clue about what I read.
1/4 correct in approx. 8min.
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got the 3rd one wrong - chose B (as mentioned in Gladiator59 post)

I would say, I got lucky with the answer, I didn't deserve this accuracy with not even understanding what the author is saying apart from just idea about texts and scripts is discussed. I was shocked after reading Gladi's time and how he smartly he depicted the main point.
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