Edit: Stickied by rhyme. He hasn't updated the story yet, but he just got admitted into Wharton.... this is a true inspiration for anyone struggling with their GMAT. From 420 to Wharton! Hi guys, I just came back from the test center with a big smile on my face. Got a 700 (Q47, V39). As many of you guys remember, I joined this site after getting a 420 back in October. I was feeling so down that I chose "positive soul" as my username. I have to say that the road was not easy, but I found very helpful all the support I got from you guys. I am exhausted, so I will write in more details in the next few days. Now, I am going to sleep. Remember to never give up. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thank you all for your kind words. I am very happy to see that all my effort and sacrificies paid off, and, hopefully, my experience will help others to beat the GMAT. Before I start, I want to thank all the active members of the GMAT Club, specially, ywilfred, professor, vivek123, HongHu, GMATT73, coffeeloverfreak, laxieqv, ps_dahiya, Futuristic, fig, rhyme, u2lover, haas_mba07, necromonger, kevincan, and yezz . I really learned from you guys. I take my hat off. My GMAT experience is a very LONG one. I took the GMAT the first time in 1995, when it was still on paper and I was considering the idea of going for my MBA right after college. I got a 560!! I knew this score was too low to try to get into a top school, so I decided to take a Kaplan course. After 3 months, my score improved a little to 590. Luckly (I guess), I landed a very good job in an European Multinational, so I decided to put off the MBA for a couple of years. The years went by, and I started to climb the corporate ladder, so every year I put off the MBA. The funny thing is that during 4 years, my GMAT books traveled with me around the world. In October 2006 , (10 years later), I took the GMAT again, obtaining a very VERY dissapointing score 420 (29Q 20V) I knew my preparation for the test was not optimal, but a 420 was just too low. For my preparation I used the OG and my old Kaplan books. I was consistenly scoring above 550 in sample tests, so I was expecting a low 600. I will never forget that day, it was the worst day of my life. I went back home thinking I was never going to get into a decent MBA program. Out of my dissapointment, I found strength to look for help. So searching the web, I found this amazing site. I posted my experience, and I got encouraging words from some of the member. At this point I saw light at the end of the tunnel. My second try: I became determined to at least break the 500 level. I read many posts regarding preparation materials, and strategies. So I gave myself 3 months to retake the exam. Looking back, it was a mistake because I was working 60+ hours, and under a lot of preassure to deliver a project by the end of January. I went ahead anyway because I wanted my "revenge". My preparation consisted on reviewing the same OG and Kaplan materials that I used before. I also started to solve some of the problems in the GMATClub. I studied on and off during the first 2 1/2 months, and started to put 2 hours during the weekdays and 8 hours during the weekend. I got a 510 (36Q 20V?) this time. Believe it or not, I was happy that I improved my Quantitative score. Final Try Eventhough, I improved my score, I knew I had to improve. I was not near the 650 I need to even dream about applying to a top MBA. Then I decided to make it happen. I made a decision to score a 700. I was no longer going to be complacent with myself. So I started to make changes in every single aspect of my preparation. Thinks that I did, I believe it made a difference this time around: 1. I committed myself to put the time and effort. Work and travel was no longer an excuse. I made the time. I promised myself I would study at least 2 hours per day. No matter what. This was very difficult, and I did not do it every day, but al least 90% of the time. I became more focus on achiving my objective. 2. I gave myself a realistic timetable to take the test. I knew, I was not going to improve my score by 200 points in one month. At least not with my working schedule. This was one of the mistakes I made in the first 2 tests. However, I knew that I had to be serious with this issue, otherwise history would repeat itself. 3. I put together a very complete list of study materials and resources. This was my list: - OG Materials : GMAT review 10th Edition, Verbal review and Quantitative review. I also obtained old GMAT paper tests from their website. - Kaplan Materials : Kaplan GMAT 2005, Kaplan GMAT 800 and Kaplan GMAT Verbal. - GMATprep Software : Downloaded from the website. - LSAT sample tests - GMAX online - GMAT Club Forum and Challenges. - GMAT 1000 Questions I could have gotten more books, but I wanted keep it as simple as possible. I knew I was NOT going to improve by doing all available questions, but by changing the way I study (I will develop later). 4. I totally changed my study approach : a) I decided to cover the basics: I came to accept that I did not have a good grasp of all the topics (Math and Verbal). It was that simple. I was really troubled by very simple rate and distance problems, and I was a dummy when I tried to solve number properties. What did I do: I took the GMAX online course. I will not recommend this course to everyone, but if you make an honest self-assessment of your skills, and think you need help. I highly recommend it. Note: This course by itself will NOT help you to increase your score dramatically but it will provide you with the basic knowledge you need to apply some strategies. b) I started to use an error log: I cannot tell you how many times I read about it. I always said, I will defenitely do it, it makes sense, etc..... BUT I NEVER DID IT (sounds like anyone you know????). Deep in my mind I thought it was a waste of time and energy: What did I do : I just did it. It was really a pain in the begining. But I cannot tell you how much time I saved, and the things I discovered about myself. After going over the GMAX course, I discovered that 75% of my mistakes were careless mistakes, such as I did not multiply correctly ( ), I did not read the question properly, I did not read all the answers, etc. I think this made a huge difference because on test day, I was right on the ball. I knew in which questions and calculations I was prone to make mistakes, and I paid a LOTof attention. c) I always tried to solve a question on my own, I did not seek help until I knew I could not solve it on my own . Before, I used to try a problem, I got it wrong, I will see the explanation given. BIG mistake. I was only doing the most convinient thing but I was not really learning. What did I do: Sometimes I would spend 10 minutes on a question (obviously not during a sample test), trying to solve it. You might say "what a waste of time", now ask me if got a similar problem wrong. Very few times. I made a comittment to think and learn. d) I never jumped to solve a question before spending a few seconds thinking about the quickest way to solve it . I read once on post, not to attack right away a problem using "brute force". This is a skill you need to develop, and it is very difficult to think about it when you know that the clock is your enemy. What did I do: When I was practicing, I realized that If I could not solve a problem under 1 1/2 minutes, I was using the wrong approach or I did not know the concept tested. So I tried and tried until I found a faster way. e) I decided to learn from the GMAT questions . In some courses, you read about traps, question types, etc. I knew about them, but I never actually thought about them when solving a question. I never said to myself, "this is a global question, so answers that are too specific will probably be wrong....". I knew the theory but I never applied it. What did I do: For every SINGLE question, I would analyze each answer and find WHY it was right and WHY the other 4 were wrong. This way you learn to identify first hand what the GMAT test makers are throwing at you. I was getting so good, I could eliminate in a few seconds 2 to 3 answer choices. Depending on the question, you could eliminate the wrong answers by knowing your scope (even in math) and identifying how GMAT tries to trick you. In summary, Re-do the questions and read every single answer. Identify the reasons for being right and wrong. Do this and you will identify patterns that repeat themselves all the time. Once you do this on YOUR OWN. You will work faster and more efficient. 5) I participated more actively on the GMAT Club . I have to accept that I always felt apprehensive about participating because some of you guys are VERY GOOD. However, once I improved my skills, I started to try. I answer some questions wrong but I learn from them. Don't be intimidated. I found myself learning a lot, trying to explain some of my answers. Sometimes, this process is a great teacher. For you guys that feel intimidated, I can tell you that some of the questions I found in this site were just too hard for me. Some of the explanations were very hard to understand. In summary, I felt dumb. But on test day, I was so ready, I found very few questions I was not able to handle 6) Practice with the GMAT Challenges . They were not easy, but they were great practice. The concepts tested were right on the money, and the time constraints really pushed me to my limits. I scored over 80% after my 6th challenge. It was a good tool to measure my improvement. 7) When I felt overwhelmed, I looked for the GMAT Club for inspiration. . Things were never a piece of cake. I had my ups and downs. I really struggled to overcome my low score stigma. There were days that I would try 10 questions, and I would get 7 wrong. I just convinced myself that it was possible to do it. I logged in everyday for inspiration. (However, I have to say I felt frustrated when members posted their 700+ score on their very first post. Why?, because they made look easy to get a 700, while I was killing myself to get reach that level.) No hard feelings because you probably deserve it. My point is, If you want to improve, you have to work hard for it, and the GMAT Club has examples of people who have done it. Dream that it is possible just as I did. 8) I took care of myself : There is a very good post about improving your score by exercising and eating better. I cannot say for sure If it really help me, but I believe it did not hurt. I convinced myself that this change would help me score higher so I started to exercise 3 times a week and eat better. I made no radical changes and I lost 10 lbs. I will not discuss about the test itself as I don't believe I can add any value to comments made by other members. However, I had a scary moment when the power went out in the middle of the verbal section. The computer shut down and it took 6 minutes to restart and recuperate the test. I believe I could have done a better job on the verbal part since I have to guess the last 5 questions. Maybe I could have reached 720 and make a 300 points improvement. My final GMAT score was 700 (47Q 39V). Finally, I think I need to talk about things that I could have done better. GMAT can take a huge toll on your personal life. The obsession to score higher hurt my relationship with friends and family. I distanced myself from them for 2 reasons: 1) I was ashamed of my score (since I live in an environment where people seem to get 650+ all the time ) and 2) I felt guilty when I took some time off. Don't let this happen to you. Find a balance, and try to get support from your friends. Good luck, and remember to be positive. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- As Rhyme mentioned, I got accepted in the Wharton/Lauder Program. I want to thank you guys for your support since the begining. I really worked hard on the applications and followed some of your advise. The only thing I can say about the application procress is that it is a pain in the %%$!!!!!!! In a serious note, I think you need to market yourself well. Tell your story and be clear on your goals. Schools really look for people that will make a good use of their MBA, thus marketing the school for them. So you know, I also applied to: Harvard....haven't heard from them so I think they dinged me. INSEAD: Accepted London Business School: Accepted. Columbia: dinged after interviewing It has been a long journey since my 420 in the GMAT. Although, the road was not easy, I am really satisfied with the outcome. It is really a dream come true. Good luck guys in your projects and if you need anything, please drop me a line. Remember to be POSITIVE and the only obstacle to achiving your goals is yourself. Your friend, PS

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Positive soul, congrats on your score! I hope everything goes good with your applications.

I think I am I am in the same situation as you were...

I started my GMAT preparation in Feb 06, with a course that has the standard preparation as many of those in the United States. Because of my job and many other activities, my dedication to my GMAT has not been as consequent as it should be, and I do admit that in practice, I have not taken into full priority.

Basically Iâ€™ve been on and off for the past 8 months. My goal is to begin a MBA program in fall 207, and the clock is tickingâ€¦. For the past 5 weeks I have been studying non stop, and took my two week vacation to study for my gmat. I actually took the test on oct 30th and got a 460 scoreâ€¦ this was very disappointing, and made me realize that if this is what I really want in my life, I would have to dedicate all my time to achieve this goal.

My goal is to enroll in a quality MBA program, which has a strong entrepreneurial vain, and from what I have seen, a 650 score is a must, to be considered for any of these schools. I plan to start a 6 week study plan before the second round of most schools begin (Dec-15th Jan 11th), and planning to retake the test the 19th of December.

Please advice me how I should focus, and if you think itâ€™s possible to achieve, or if I should take more time before I re-take the test. I have most of the material that is usually used: OG11 book, and the Kaplan 2006 book.

This was my official score:

Quant 29 scaled score, 27% percentile
Verbal 23 scaled score, 31% percentile
Toatl 460, 27% percentile

Thanks for your time!

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Positive soul:
The message i take from your post is ' Never ever give up'.
Thanks for sharing your experience.
Good luck.

Bhaarat

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Your story is very inspiring.... CONGRATULATIONS

I have one question... how long did it take you to make the last improvement : from 510 to 700?

I have recently taken the test and i got 570 (Q32, V36). I aim for 680+ I have limited time before the 2nd round of application to make that leap (probably only 1- 1.5 month of study) . DO you think it is manageable? Is it realistic to go from 570 to 680 in this restricted time frame??

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hello everybody! this is my first post but i also have smth to share with you. I started my preparation for GMAT from the beginning of Aug this year and that wasn't actual preparation as i understood later but on my first test (Oct 5, 2006) i got 510 (Q 45, V17

) Verbal part is my weak part of the exam. After the test i understood there is smth more i have to study and i found lots of strategies i didn't know before (Before i used no books just tests whish i downloaded from the internet).

My second try i had yesterday i was preparing for it for a month and i was 100% sure i'll get at least 650 as i read the books and practiced more. But yesterday when the screen showed me 570 (Q39, V28) I concentrated this time more on verbal part but i lost on quant

Now i'm reading all your posts and to make a plan and change my strategy to improve the scores. Also i'm a bit dissapointed with all the book as they don't reflect the real test. On the CD tests from the book i had 700, 720, 690 but the real test is much harder. Now im' looking for the hardest questions the GMAT has and asking you to advice me some.

Also i heard so many things about OG (Official Guide i guess) Can somebody send me a link where i can find or buy this book.
Thank you in advance.

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Hi guys,

Thank you once again for your kind words and sorry for the late reply (but I was enjoying my "GMAT free time" :lol:

To answer some of the questions:

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Check out this link. These tools are Key to a good score. Don't forget to download the GMATPrep software.

https://www.mba.com/mba/TaketheGMAT/Take ... YouPrepare

I know you want to improve your verbal skills but you should not forget about the quant. I had the same problem like you did. I put too much effort to improve my quant but my verbal scores were actually going down. So I started to allocate the same amount of time for both sections (when possible).

wessam20

In my case, it took me about 3 months. However, I believe it could be done in less if you put the time and committment.

josevsilva

6 weeks should be enough. However, track your improvement and be honest with yourself. If you are still too far from your target and you don't feel confortable with yourself, I will reconsider the test date. However, don't be discouraged if you get low scores in your practice tests. As you will read in many posts in the GMAT Club, sometimes people actually do better in the real test than in the practice tests. All depends on the test provider (Kaplan, Princeton, etc).. The GMATprep software is the best way to assess yourself. I notice improvement after taking my GMATprep test #1 and analizing each question carefully. My advise is to study for 3 weeks and take your first test. I know some people say to save these tests for the end but I believe it is useful to take sometime to analize each question to learn from them, and retake the test a few times until you feel comfortable. I will save the last test for the last week of preparation.

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Hi positive soul, boy your name fits you well! Your story is such an inspiring one that it will now be a beacon for many members for the years to come. You are so right about the GMAT taking such a toll in your life... I also had to sacrifice so much during the preparation time which took me about 2 years until I got what I wanted so I definitely understand what you mean.
You should definitely stick around to the club and give a helping hand to other new members. Keep in touch and do like many of us did after having completed our GMAT. Last but not least, C O N G R A T U L A T I O N ! ! !

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Wow! Was very inspired by your story, positive soul. I am scheduled to take my exam in 2 weeks and i'm starting to get REALLY nervous. You're post helped me calm down a bit and be more optimistic.

All the best with your apps! And thanks for sharing your success story!

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Thank you Paul!!

I will definitively remain as an active member of this club.

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Wow, Can you share with me how did you raise 700 score?
What book did you use? How did you manage your time?

Thank you

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positive soul ... amazing story and what a great achievement. CONGRATULATIONS !!!
Thank you very much for the detailed explanation of how you improved your score. All the things you have mentioned there about careless mistakes and other usual pitfalls people fall in while studying are soooo true...this story will really help those who are trying to improve their score ... thanks man ... really inspiring story ...

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Thanks for the great post and a belated congrats! Not sure if you still check the site but wanted to see if you got excepted to any schools yet?

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pelihu's comment makes me think - does a 500-700 jump get viewed more favorably than a 700 at 1st attempt?[/quote]

If this were so, wouldn't we all go in there and bomb one? Hell I'll show you a 400 point increase if thats the case.

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Hi guys,

I just came back from the test center with a big smile on my face. :-D

Got a 700 (Q47, V39). As many of you guys remember, I joined this site after getting a 420 back in October. I was feeling so down that I chose "positive soul" as my username. I have to say that the road was not easy, but I found very helpful all the support I got from you guys.

I am exhausted, so I will write in more details in the next few days.

Now, I am going to sleep. :-D

Remember to never give up.

Great Stuff congrats

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congrats dude!!!
one of the most inspiring stories ive heard!

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Positive Soul your story was definitely God sent. I happened to see this site randomly today and your post was the first I visited. I took my first official GMAT in Feb 07 and after scoring in the high 300s I became so discouraged at the idea of going to bschool that I started slacking on my study schedule. I finally mustered up the courage last week to get my act together and by reading your story I know it is definitely doable. I'm even more excited to hear you'll be joining the Lauder Institute at Wharton because I'm highly interested in that program. I've given myself 3 months to crack into the 500s and thereafter I'll start focusing on pursuing the 700+. I'll keep in touch but best of luck with everything Positive Soul!! Your story is my inspiration.

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This is really inspiring and motivating, I have been preparing for GMAT since last three months now. I had taken few Kaplan tests and getting scroe in the range of 500-580. I felt quite upset after seeing my scores, but I think afer reading this motivating story , I will get back to my preparation and try to break the 750 barrier.

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Hi everyone,
I have been a regular contributor,but positive soul's score is still an inspiration for me.I got 430 on my first attempt in December,in April my score was 560.I really want to get at least 700 to give me a good chance to get into either York University or University of Toronto.
Any advice and encouragement will be greatly appreciated.Once again congrats, Positive soul.

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Seriously dude, with that sort of dedication I think you could just about succeed in almost anything you put your mind too. Good luck at Wharton and congrats on the well deserved admit.

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Truly Inspiring. What a commiittment and dedication: you were carrying your Gmat book all over the place you visited.

Congratulation and goodluck.

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