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21 Mar 2010, 10:19
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Hi folks,
I have been watching this site for several months now and finally decided to share my experience.
Initially started studying in 2009 Sep. I wanted to give my exam in dec third week and apply to the second round of some schools that start in fall 10. Unfortunately i fell ill in the final run up and lost 10 days. I decided i should do it right the first time and then postponed my app to 2011.
I rested well in Dec, start warming up in jan. Through feb i have mostly been looking at kaplan, 1012 Gmat and now kaplan Advanced Gmat books, previously having finished OG.
I have taken 6 tests:
Kaplan 1: 560
Kaplan 2: 540
Kaplan scores were the first ones, so i may not have been completely prepared.
Powerprep 1 (15 incorrect on Quant and 14 incorrect in verbal) Can i see the score on the powerprep, if so where?
Manhattan 1 680
Manhattan 2 640
Manhattan 3 650
Manhattan 4 650
Will post details on the score later. This has been frustrating for many reasons.
1) My background is in science - im good at math.
2) Although english is not my native language, the medium of instruction has been English since kindergarden. We even speak english at home quite often. (basically, great communication skills)
My problem: If i take 10 questions at a time, i usually solve 9/10 in 20 minutes.
Verbal about 8/10 and some times 7 if the RC is very intricate.
How ever, this does not translate well on my test scores as im getting 14-18 /37 wrong in Quant and about 14-20 wrong in verbal.
Many months of poring over quant basics and rules of grammar (I have read Manhattan SC twice and understood it) has not translated to anything on these tests?
What am i missing? Any suggestions or recommendations are much appreciated.
Im planning to go ahead with the real test in the second week of April.
Thanks
I have been watching this site for several months now and finally decided to share my experience.
Initially started studying in 2009 Sep. I wanted to give my exam in dec third week and apply to the second round of some schools that start in fall 10. Unfortunately i fell ill in the final run up and lost 10 days. I decided i should do it right the first time and then postponed my app to 2011.
I rested well in Dec, start warming up in jan. Through feb i have mostly been looking at kaplan, 1012 Gmat and now kaplan Advanced Gmat books, previously having finished OG.
I have taken 6 tests:
Kaplan 1: 560
Kaplan 2: 540
Kaplan scores were the first ones, so i may not have been completely prepared.
Powerprep 1 (15 incorrect on Quant and 14 incorrect in verbal) Can i see the score on the powerprep, if so where?
Manhattan 1 680
Manhattan 2 640
Manhattan 3 650
Manhattan 4 650
Will post details on the score later. This has been frustrating for many reasons.
1) My background is in science - im good at math.
2) Although english is not my native language, the medium of instruction has been English since kindergarden. We even speak english at home quite often. (basically, great communication skills)
My problem: If i take 10 questions at a time, i usually solve 9/10 in 20 minutes.
Verbal about 8/10 and some times 7 if the RC is very intricate.
How ever, this does not translate well on my test scores as im getting 14-18 /37 wrong in Quant and about 14-20 wrong in verbal.
Many months of poring over quant basics and rules of grammar (I have read Manhattan SC twice and understood it) has not translated to anything on these tests?
What am i missing? Any suggestions or recommendations are much appreciated.
Im planning to go ahead with the real test in the second week of April.
Thanks
23 Mar 2010, 20:23
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Welcome to GMAT Club mbafall2011.
Took you a few months to post; took us a few days to get back with you
Just kidding - bumping is the right thing to do in this case.
To your point, there are a few reasons you would have challenges with the test and none with practice.
1. Your practice is not adaptive (so difficulty level is not the same as on the test)
2. Doing 10 questions in 20 minutes is different from sitting for 4 hours and working on a test
3. The gmat score is not driven by the number of questions you got wrong but rather by number of hard questions that you got right (excluding easy and experimental)
4. 2 mins per question is also fairly generous - would plan on spending 1.5 mins instead; more realistic to a real test condition and may be closer to those results
I would use CAT's as a measure of your performance and the best remedy I can suggest is working on your speed and figuring out shortcuts (what-arithmetic-should-i-memorize-80128.html) and making sure you know the framework/basics very well.
Would also look at the dedicated books for SC/CR/RC and some of the quant books. Give MGMAT Number Properties a try as well - many people like it for refreshing basics and then MGMAT Word Translations for more advanced topics such as Probability, etc.
Took you a few months to post; took us a few days to get back with you
Just kidding - bumping is the right thing to do in this case.
To your point, there are a few reasons you would have challenges with the test and none with practice.
1. Your practice is not adaptive (so difficulty level is not the same as on the test)
2. Doing 10 questions in 20 minutes is different from sitting for 4 hours and working on a test
3. The gmat score is not driven by the number of questions you got wrong but rather by number of hard questions that you got right (excluding easy and experimental)
4. 2 mins per question is also fairly generous - would plan on spending 1.5 mins instead; more realistic to a real test condition and may be closer to those results
I would use CAT's as a measure of your performance and the best remedy I can suggest is working on your speed and figuring out shortcuts (what-arithmetic-should-i-memorize-80128.html) and making sure you know the framework/basics very well.
Would also look at the dedicated books for SC/CR/RC and some of the quant books. Give MGMAT Number Properties a try as well - many people like it for refreshing basics and then MGMAT Word Translations for more advanced topics such as Probability, etc.
24 Mar 2010, 09:00
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Hi there,
Thanks for using our resources! I hope you're finding them to be helpful, even if you're not seeing the results you were hoping for.
bb's advice is very good. The only thing I would add is a discussion of the way in which you practice both the OG problems and the in-action problems in that are at the end of each of our chapters. You said you read through our SC book twice and understood it, but did you also do all the problems? What we always suggest is that instead of doing 10 problems in 20 minutes, do 5 problems in 10 minutes, then spend the next 10 minutes going over those problems. Analyze them. Why did you get the ones you got right? What grammar did you use to do so? How could you have used another strategy to arrive at the same conclusion?
You mentioned your frustration with going over basics, but the key is to both understand the core of material and to be able to apply it to the exam using various strategies. The GMAT is unique in that it tests 7th grade grammar and math in a way that makes it difficult to answer for university graduates. Knowledge of the grammar and math is a great thing to emphasize but remember to also practice applying it in the problems
Hope you find that helpful!
Best Wishes,
Caitlin Clay
Student Services Associate
Manhattan GMAT
Thanks for using our resources! I hope you're finding them to be helpful, even if you're not seeing the results you were hoping for.
bb's advice is very good. The only thing I would add is a discussion of the way in which you practice both the OG problems and the in-action problems in that are at the end of each of our chapters. You said you read through our SC book twice and understood it, but did you also do all the problems? What we always suggest is that instead of doing 10 problems in 20 minutes, do 5 problems in 10 minutes, then spend the next 10 minutes going over those problems. Analyze them. Why did you get the ones you got right? What grammar did you use to do so? How could you have used another strategy to arrive at the same conclusion?
You mentioned your frustration with going over basics, but the key is to both understand the core of material and to be able to apply it to the exam using various strategies. The GMAT is unique in that it tests 7th grade grammar and math in a way that makes it difficult to answer for university graduates. Knowledge of the grammar and math is a great thing to emphasize but remember to also practice applying it in the problems
Hope you find that helpful!
Best Wishes,
Caitlin Clay
Student Services Associate
Manhattan GMAT
