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So the tests I took I was not allowed to have a scratchpad, but I would assume any dry erase board would be allowed provided you show it to the proctor and keep it in view.
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i) When you rebooted or when you lost the connection, how was Proctor still able to monitor you? I mean there should be someway they can monitor you when you are in the midst of the test right?

Obviously, when I rebooted my computer, the webcam briefly shut off and the proctor was not able to monitor me. However, I was anxious to reboot and log back in, so I was only "off camera" for a few minutes, but no, I was not monitored the entire time.

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ii) Did you face any issues/distractions from the Proctor during the test?

No, not at all. The proctors (I had 3 of them) were barely noticeable and would talk to you at the very beginning (both through the computer audio and the chat feature), and that was about it.

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iii) Were you allowed to move from your place? And what about the breaks? Do we need to be in front of camera all the time? As in, in the test center you have someone watching you. You are not allowed to take a look at the notes etc.

Yes, you need to be in front of the camera the entire time other than the 10-minute break, and show the proctor all 4 corners of your room and your entire desk area. My daughter has a bookshelf that he made me cover with a bedsheet.

At the end of the exam, you have to erase your whiteboard in view of the proctor.



Doesnt running windows via bootcamp on a mac kill wifi speeds and reliability in general?


No. I have done it for 6 years on 3 versions of MACs. You may need to jump through some hoops to do the install - Apple does not make it super easy but there are all drivers that come and work pretty reliably. I don’t know why OS would impact the WIFI speed.... But if it does, I clearly have not noticed or been impacted by it :lol:

My Mac runs windows 99% of the time and it runs for weeks at a time without reboot. I use google/nest Wifi. I have also used Airport and Airport express in the past. Never had issues with those two products. I have observed overall WiFi reliability of my Mac WiFi to be along the lines of that if my iPhone.

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Doesnt running windows via bootcamp on a mac kill wifi speeds and reliability in general?[/quote]

No. I have done it for 6 years on 3 versions of MACs. You may need to jump through some hoops to do the install - Apple does not make it super easy but there are all drivers that come and work pretty reliably. I don’t know why OS would impact the WIFI speed.... But if it does, I clearly have not noticed or been impacted by it :lol:

My Mac runs windows 99% of the time and it runs for weeks at a time without reboot. I use google/nest Wifi. I have also used Airport and Airport express in the past. Never had issues with those two products. I have observed overall WiFi reliability of my Mac WiFi to be along the lines of that if my iPhone.

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Gotcha, im not too familiar with bootcamp so I'll take your word for it.

Do you have an opinion on whether connecting to the internet via iPhone hotspot (US AT&T) is generally more reliable than connecting to the internet via WiFi? :)
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Well... I am not a huge fan of ATT but it really depends on where you are. Most of the time I connect to my hotspot via WIFI so it is. It really hotspot vs WiFi but hotspot vs cable or DSL or Fiber :-)

However if you are in a good coverage area, hotspot can be faster and better.... Especially vs slower DSL.

I don’t think it really matters most of the time.

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Wow! Yet another cunning way to cheat on GRE Home Edition, aka GRE Bad Decision.

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With regard to cheating prevention, dropped connections / computer reboots are more of a potential problem on the GRE, where a cheater could look at all the questions, intentionally sever the internet connection or turn off the computer, solve the questions with help, then log back into the test and answer them correctly.
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Friends! Do you think the SIZE of the laptop or Desktop makes difference?
I often found that the computer sets at Test Centres have large monitors and the screen size/spread/font size is bigger than that of an ordinary laptop on which we practice, making the reading process uncomfortable.

Don't you think a small laptop with compact screen such as a 13 inch Dell xps will be an advantage? (Especially when reading RC passages with reasonable font size)
Or do you think one using 13 inch laptops will have to use scroll bars to read the whole question/passage? (This is really disastrous)
People who have taken GRE may pl comment the experience of taking exam on a smaller screen compared to large monitors in test centres.
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I do think that GMAC would be wise to anticipate that a dropped internet connection or computer crash / electricity outage is something that is likely to happen during the exam. (Though an electricity outage isn't necessarily a problem for a well-charged laptop, it would obviously sever the internet connection.) By the time my connection got dropped for the 5th or 6th time on the At-Home GRE, I realized that a wired, reliable, fast internet connection is key to maintaining your momentum on the exam, and to not having what should be a 3 or 4-hour test turn into a 5 or 6-hour slog.

With regard to cheating prevention, dropped connections / computer reboots are more of a potential problem on the GRE, where a cheater could look at all the questions, intentionally sever the internet connection or turn off the computer, solve the questions with help, then log back into the test and answer them correctly. The fact that the GMAT only lets you see one question at a time (and you can't go back) would make this less of an issue.


If this said is based on a real experience, then it is possible to assume.

If it is your assumption, I do not think it is possible. Moreover, I do not know how to figure out to turn off the computer and then back after one hour and the Proctor welcomed me saying me all is fine.

The proctor could stop you to take the exam at any moment and for whatever reason, it might be.
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Well... I am not a huge fan of ATT but it really depends on where you are. Most of the time I connect to my hotspot via WIFI so it is. It really hotspot vs WiFi but hotspot vs cable or DSL or Fiber :-)

However if you are in a good coverage area, hotspot can be faster and better.... Especially vs slower DSL.

I don’t think it really matters most of the time.

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Today LSAC (maker of the LSAT) announced its own plans for an online, at-home, shortened version of the LSAT, called the "LSAT Flex," which will debut in mid-May:

https://www.lsac.org/update-coronavirus ... /lsat-flex

Meanwhile, it's April 8th, and GMAC's claim that the Interim GMAT will begin in "mid April" appears more suspect with each passing day.



Hi Mcelroytutoring,

I am giving my GRE at home shortly and was hoping you could answer a few qs regarding your experience.
Can you please tell me if one can scribble for solutions in a GMAT type booklet which is laminated and written with a dry erase marker? I have bought a small white board but I dont want to use it as Ill waste a lot of time erasing it during the test as the space is limited.


Also, did you notice any interruptions caused by the proctors? As in if you cover your face while writing or lean on the desk? I also have a tendency to read portions of the RC passages out loud (not too loud but like mumble to myself), will that be a problem?

Finally, did you see an experimental section on the exam or a research section? Were you intimated which is which or did this seem like the normal exam with 5 sections? + experimental section?

How did you do in this exam? Do you find this experience easier than the test center or more chaotic?

Thank you for your time and I greatly appreciate your input.
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Hi Mcelroytutoring,

I am giving my GRE at home shortly and was hoping you could answer a few qs regarding your experience.
Can you please tell me if one can scribble for solutions in a GMAT type booklet which is laminated and written with a dry erase marker? I have bought a small white board but I dont want to use it as Ill waste a lot of time erasing it during the test as the space is limited.


Also, did you notice any interruptions caused by the proctors? As in if you cover your face while writing or lean on the desk? I also have a tendency to read portions of the RC passages out loud (not too loud but like mumble to myself), will that be a problem?

Finally, did you see an experimental section on the exam or a research section? Were you intimated which is which or did this seem like the normal exam with 5 sections? + experimental section?

How did you do in this exam? Do you find this experience easier than the test center or more chaotic?

Thank you for your time and I greatly appreciate your input.
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Yes, you can use a blank, laminated sheet instead of a dry-erase board. The proctors were not too strict, other than the fact that I had to be on camera all times and show them my wrists, ears, glasses, etc.

I did well, but not my best. The score wasn't quite up to my high standards, but the conditions were not optimal, and I treated it mostly as an experiment anyway, so I'm OK with that. My entire family was home at the time (obviously), and although my wife tried to keep the kids on the quiet side, we have 3 of them, including a 2-year old, and as any parent knows, you can only do so much. ; ) Before the exam, my internet connection was diagnosed as "sub-optimal" in my daughter's room, the only suitable room for the exam (which also happens to have the worst wireless reception in the house), so the exam ended up taking 50% longer than it should have (see picture below).

Did I miss the relative quiet of the testing center? Yeah, a little--but that's simply not an option. However, taking it at home was also supremely cool, despite all the technical snafus, and I can see it being perfect for someone who lives alone in a quiet apartment with a fast, reliable, wired internet connection--or someone who has access to a quiet hotel room or office with similar amenities.



Thanks for the reply, it was very helpful. Btw how do you get the final score? Am I allowed to take a screen shot of the final score to share it with universities since the official score will take 10-15 days?

Btw, can one go to the bathroom in the one minute break if they really have to? After giving so many GMAT exams I’m almost habitual to use the rest room after 1 hour haha I always end up drinking too much water in the breaks.

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Thanks for the reply, it was very helpful. Btw how do you get the final score? Am I allowed to take a screen shot of the final score to share it with universities since the official score will take 10-15 days?

Btw, can one go to the bathroom in the one minute break if they really have to? After giving so many GMAT exams I’m almost habitual to use the rest room after 1 hour haha I always end up drinking too much water in the breaks.

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You receive the unofficial score immediately after the exam (and clicking "Report Score"), minus the AW score of course. You can't take a screenshot because screenshooting is disabled during the exam.

You are NOT allowed to leave your seat during the 1-minute breaks, but I suppose that in the worst-case, "gotta-go" scenario you could turn off your computer (or just your router) between sections, then try to log back on after your bathroom trip--giving the appearance that you have never left your seat, but actually leaving you just enough time to run to the bathroom. I actually kind of wish I had done that, since the first 2 hours of my test took over 3 hours, and I was definitely uncomfortable toward the end of the 2nd multiple-choice section.

For all I know, though, GMAC's proctoring service could institute completely different rules and regulations for the Interim GMAT. The At-Home GRE is simply all we have to go off at this point.
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Got a mail from mba.com today where it says:
"We all recognize this is a challenging time for testing with test center closures around the world. To help, GMAC is offering GMAT™ Online. This will be an interim, proctored GMAT™ exam so that you can meet the current application cycle deadlines.
GMAT Online is primarily for those of you who have had your GMAT appointment cancelled due to COVID-19 and have immediate b-school application deadlines. The interim exam will provide an alternative option so that you can meet those deadlines and continue your goals. .

GMAT Online has a comparable structure and identical scoring algorithm and methodology as the test center GMAT™ exam. The interim exam will have the same number of items and time for completion across the Quant, Verbal and IR sections (no AWA section).

Also, we want to make the exam as flexible as possible for you. GMAT Online will be accessible on either a MAC or PC. Plus, we are working on adding accommodations to assist those with special needs. "

Here is my take : since we know that this is an interim exam option , so probably the at home exam is going to be only for candidates who have upcoming deadlines only and on case to case basis GMAC may extend this option for all students as well.
There is a possibility that people who would be registering for this exam would probably have to select the schools in advance at the of exam registration. :|
Given the condition of system requirement ,the question of using bootcamp on mac is ruled out for now. :)
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What I posted is just my point of view on the mail I had got from mba.com , as its too early to comment or assume on what may or may not happen with the at home exam option as nothing as such is official yet and I do hope that GMAC does allow and make this test available for everyone and does not put any special condition. :)



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Archit3110 I think you're overinferring a bit from what they said. Yes, they said that the exam will be "primarily" for those who are trying to meet the upcoming deadlines, but they are not concluding that it won't be valid for other people who are taking the exam with the hopes of it being valid for a longer timeline.

I really just do not see why GMAC would only render these tests valid for perhaps the next year or so (rather than keep them valid for the next 5 years per usual). As I believe an instructor stated somewhere, the "At-Home" score will likely be comparable to what you would get at a test center on average, simply because people will have other distractions at home that are not prevalent at test centers (e.g., roommates, less robust of an exam setup, no noise cancelling headphones, etc.) Also, I'd argue some might score higher at a test center, because that psychological feeling of being in such a high-stakes environment could propel one to be more laser-focused than usual on gameday (take me as an example: I scored 60 pts higher a month ago on the actual test than any practice test I had ever taken).

I think GMAC has to understand that performance on the GMAT can be a very momentum-based test. A lot of people peak through excessive amounts of reps and practice - a simple example of this is the mental math one gains from memorizing calculations such as what 6^3 is or what the 45-45-90 degree triangles' dimensions are. If you delay a certain subset of test takers the ability to take the exam (e.g., people applying to MBAs in 2+ years, such as myself), you are actually really screwing them over. Because if we have to wait another two to three months before we can take an exam that we are ready to take right now, there is a high probability that we will not be at our peak areas. Or, something at work could come up and result in people like us having to revert away from the test, and then those key advantages I just described to you from doing mass amounts of practice are lost, thus lowering the score.

It's a murky situation for sure because people on the outside looking in could say "that's so unfair that they get to take it at home - I bet they score better!" or perhaps they may just not like that someone scores their GMAT score in a way that appears 'nontraditional' to what has been typically done-yet, these are unprecedented times, so audibles have to be called. I am extremely interested in what GMAC will say to us in the coming days, to say the least. :cool:
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Did everyone get an email for an invitation to the webinar on April 17?

[Webinar] Introducing the Online GMAT™ for Test Takers on April 17

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Due to the impact of COVID-19 on test center locations around the world, we will offer a GMAT online alternative exam to test takers. Join us on Friday, April 17 at noon (ET) to learn more about the details for the online exam.

This webinar is for candidates who will take the interim Online GMAT to apply to graduate business programs. Topics will include:

• Alternative exam structure and scoring
• Test registration pricing and process
• Computer requirements and test security
• Test preparation recommendations

This is your opportunity to have your questions answered by the makers of the GMAT exam. If you have any questions that you would like to be answered during the webinar, submit your questions here.


PS. April 17 is the date of the webinar, I don’t think that’s the date of the home test opening. My guess GMAT at home will start the following Monday, April 20.

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[quote="jbatra"]I think the registration will start on 30th April.

There was an update on mba.com on 10th April.

Yes. They said end of April... and I think your prediction is likely more accurate than mine :lol:

I am guessing we will know by the 17th what date it will be.
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Did everyone get an email for an invitation to the webinar on April 17?

[Webinar] Introducing the Online GMAT™ for Test Takers on April 17

Quote:
Due to the impact of COVID-19 on test center locations around the world, we will offer a GMAT online alternative exam to test takers. Join us on Friday, April 17 at noon (ET) to learn more about the details for the online exam.

This webinar is for candidates who will take the interim Online GMAT to apply to graduate business programs. Topics will include:

• Alternative exam structure and scoring
• Test registration pricing and process
• Computer requirements and test security
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This is your opportunity to have your questions answered by the makers of the GMAT exam. If you have any questions that you would like to be answered during the webinar, submit your questions here.


PS. April 17 is the date of the webinar, I don’t think that’s the date of the home test opening. My guess GMAT at home will start the following Monday, April 20.

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I did not. My GMAT scheduled for mid-April was cancelled, so I am not sure who the target recipients of the email were.
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Weird.... you would think you would be the target audience. It it does not seem like this is for a special audience. Sometimes GMAT runs webinars for test prep companies only and sometimes we get invited to those but this just seems like a webinar for everyone....

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