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Nine months after the county banned jet skis and other water bikes from the tranquil waters of Puget Sound, a judge overturned the ban on the ground of violating state laws for allowing the use of personal watercraft on common waterways.

A. of violating state laws for allowing
B. of their violating state laws to allow
C. that it violates state laws that allowed
D. that it violated state laws allowing
E. that state laws were being violated allowing
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We need a THAT clause to explain the restrictive part of the judge's decision. in C, the present tense is not right. We need Past tense as the action of banning used to violate ( Before the overturn). Hence, D.
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Nine months after the county banned jet skis and other water bikes from the tranquil waters of Puget Sound, a judge overturned the ban on the ground of violating state laws for allowing the use of personal watercraft on common waterways.

A. of violating state laws for allowing
B. of their violating state laws to allow
C. that it violates state laws that allowed
D. that it violated state laws allowing
E. that state laws were being violated allowing



Hey Piyush,

Can you help me understand why "violated" is correct and "violates" is wrong ??

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NEW PROJECT!: Back to basic => Give your explanation- Get Kudos Point for best explanation

Nine months after the county banned jet skis and other water bikes from the tranquil waters of Puget Sound, a judge overturned the ban on the ground of violating state laws for allowing the use of personal watercraft on common waterways.

A. of violating state laws for allowing
B. of their violating state laws to allow
C. that it violates state laws that allowed
D. that it violated state laws allowing
E. that state laws were being violated allowing



Hey Piyush,

Can you help me understand why "violated" is correct and "violates" is wrong ??


I also got this wrong.

In very simple term : violates in present term means something which is a fact or habit , or in general is also true as of now. Which cannot be true because the ban cannot be violating the ban now as it has been overturned.

On the other hand violated in past correctly delivers the intended meaning.

Hope this helps.

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Can you help me understand why "violated" is correct and "violates" is wrong ??


I also got this wrong.

In very simple term : violates in present term means something which is a fact or habit , or in general is also true as of now. Which cannot be true because the ban cannot be violating the ban now as it has been overturned.

On the other hand violated in past correctly delivers the intended meaning.

Hope this helps.

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Sure, "Judge overturned" <- action is in past tense; therefore, effect of the ban can not exist in present or at the time when third person wrote this sentence.

Nine months after the county banned jet skis and other water bikes from the tranquil waters of Puget Sound, a judge overturned the ban on the ground of violating state laws for allowing the use of personal watercraft on common waterways.

A. of violating state laws for allowing
B. of their violating state laws to allow
C. that it violates state laws that allowed
D. that it violated state laws allowing
E. that state laws were being violated allowing[/quote]
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Hello. Here is my 2 cents.

Nine months after the county banned jet skis and other water bikes from the tranquil waters of Puget Sound, a judge overturned the ban on the ground of violating state laws for allowing the use of personal watercraft on common waterways.

A. of violating state laws for allowing
Wrong. Correct use is "laws allowing something" <-- "allowing" is verb-ING modifier. "laws for allowing the use of...." is not correct.

B. of their violating state laws to allow
Wrong. 2 problems.
- "their" is wrong because the band is singular.
- "laws to allow" is ungrammatical. The Verb-ING modifier, "allowing" should be used.

C. that it violates state laws that allowed
Wrong. 2 problems.
- The action "violate" happened in the past (not occurs in present anymore), so the judge "overturned" the ban.
- Past tense "allowed" is wrong. The laws still allow the use of personal watercraft. It means the laws are still effective.

D. that it violated state laws allowing
Correct.

E. that state laws were being violated allowing
Wrong. Awkward and ungrammatical.

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D for me "that it violated state laws allowing"
that - essential
violated - past tense
it - refers to ban
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If the option D read something like this:

D. that it had violated state laws allowing

Since Violation happened before the ban, will this be correct ?
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NEW PROJECT!: Back to basic => Give your explanation- Get Kudos Point for best explanation

Nine months after the county banned jet skis and other water bikes from the tranquil waters of Puget Sound, a judge overturned the ban on the ground of violating state laws for allowing the use of personal watercraft on common waterways.

A. of violating state laws for allowing
B. of their violating state laws to allow
C. that it violates state laws that allowed
D. that it violated state laws allowing
E. that state laws were being violated allowing


First of all, there is a difference between the idiomatic usage of laws to allow and laws that allowed.
Laws to allow -- to specify the intent or purpose of the laws
For example, laws to discourage eve teasing

Laws that -- it specifies what is specified in the laws itself.

Now, coming back to the question,
Nine months after the county banned jet skis and other water bikes from the tranquil waters of Puget Sound, a judge overturned the ban on the ground of violating state laws for allowing the use of personal watercraft on common waterways.

A. of violating state laws for allowing its not clear who or what violated the state laws as well as the usage of laws for allowing is not idiomatic.
B. of their violating state laws to allow its not clear who or what violated the state laws as well as the usage of laws to allow is not idiomatic in the context of the sentence.
C. that it violates state laws that allowed "it" refers to ban here, which is correct but "violates" is not the correct tense as it is not a general fact of violating instead the ban violated the state laws in the past that's why the judge is overturning the ban
D. that it violated state laws allowing here "it" correctly refers to ban and the past tense usage "violated" is correct
E. that state laws were being violated allowing Its written in passive voice though we have clear active voice sentence available so incorrect. Also allowing is not placed correctly, it should be placed close to laws. The past continuous tense is also not correct in the context of the sentence.

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this is a poor quality question imo. D is the best of the lot, but incorrect because it was overturned "on the grounds" that it violates state law. it wasn't overturned because it "violated" the law in the past.

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this is a poor quality question imo. D is the best of the lot, but incorrect because it was overturned "on the grounds" that it violates state law. it wasn't overturned because it "violated" the law in the past.

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NEW PROJECT!: Back to basic => Give your explanation- Get Kudos Point for best explanation

Nine months after the county banned jet skis and other water bikes from the tranquil waters of Puget Sound, a judge overturned the ban on the ground of violating state laws for allowing the use of personal watercraft on common waterways.

A. of violating state laws for allowing
B. of their violating state laws to allow
C. that it violates state laws that allowed
D. that it violated state laws allowing
E. that state laws were being violated allowing


sequence of tense is used to talk about how many tenses are uses in a sentence. the rule is simple: when the main clause is in the past tense ,normally the tense in dependent clause is in a kind of past tense.

so, the main clause is "overturned" , the tense in dependent clause should be "violated". this is normal.

but this is not a hard and fast rule. there is some cases in which the tense in the dependent clause is in present and the tense in main clause is past. consider

he said that the earth orbits the sun.

this case happen when the action in dependent clause is timeless fact.

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