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Hrm... maybe I wasn't clear in my original post. What I meant is that the one bad grade didn't really affect my overall GPA, but when broken down into GPA by year, the final year's GPA definitely is a bit lower than the previous years'.

I'm not quite sure what to say about it other than the professor's final was completely irrelevant to the class and I was just stumped even though I did well in the rest of the class. Her grading scheme was also very harsh and she's well known to be the prof that gave many straight-A students their only non-A grade.

None of the above reasons are good to put in an optional sentence, IMHO, because they sound like whining. But I don't really have any good reasons on why I got the bad grade other than what I stated already.

To make it more complicated, I'm already using the optional essay area to discuss my community involvement activities, so it'll be weird to have 2 sentences for the grade, and then the rest on something completely different...

Thus my dilemma. :(
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If its one year's GPA that gets affected, dont bother - your first post made it sound like it was significant.

Ya, dont talk about it. I doubt the ad-com officer is going to break down GPAs by year and scrutinize them thoroughly. Besides its the final year, he can do 2+2 together and figure out you were busy with job searches, graduation parties, parties before you become an adult... (get my drift).
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ahh ok, sorry about not being clear. I agree that I probably shouldn't bring too much attention to that grade. They may look at it and go, "Hrm, I wondered what happened there?" but you are right, I was busy with graduation activities and things like that.

I don't think it's going to affect their perception of whether I can handle the workload or not (since my GMAT and overall GPA is solid). I just wanted to see if I'm missing something that could hurt me. Thanks again!
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If its one year's GPA that gets affected, dont bother - your first post made it sound like it was significant.

Ya, dont talk about it. I doubt the ad-com officer is going to break down GPAs by year and scrutinize them thoroughly. Besides its the final year, he can do 2+2 together and figure out you were busy with job searches, graduation parties, parties before you become an adult... (get my drift).


i wouldnt discount the year by year breakdown. most unofficial transcript forms ask you to calculate your gpa each year and note it.
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True.

But going back to kryzak's dilemma - in this case one course grade deviation does not really warrant a written justification on his essay as it does not bring down his overall GPA significantly or show him to be academically deficient.
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dabot's point regarding unofficial GPA report and the yearly breakdown is the reason why I brought this up. But the more I think about it and also based on what aviroop is saying, I don't think it's something that warrants an explanation in an essay. It might be something to discuss at an interview if they bother to ask, but otherwise, the only thing that the grade affects is the final year's GPA and a slight downward "trend" in the final year.

If someone disagrees, please speak up, as I want to cover all bases. :)
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I wouldn't worry. At least you're not in my position of having a whole year of crappy grades to explain. I mean, I have a valid reason, but I still hate the fact that they exist.
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Hrm... maybe I wasn't clear in my original post. What I meant is that the one bad grade didn't really affect my overall GPA, but when broken down into GPA by year, the final year's GPA definitely is a bit lower than the previous years'.

I'm not quite sure what to say about it other than the professor's final was completely irrelevant to the class and I was just stumped even though I did well in the rest of the class. Her grading scheme was also very harsh and she's well known to be the prof that gave many straight-A students their only non-A grade.

None of the above reasons are good to put in an optional sentence, IMHO, because they sound like whining. But I don't really have any good reasons on why I got the bad grade other than what I stated already.

To make it more complicated, I'm already using the optional essay area to discuss my community involvement activities, so it'll be weird to have 2 sentences for the grade, and then the rest on something completely different...

Thus my dilemma. :(


Kryzak, I guess the optional essay is meant only for extenuating circumstances - in fact I have come across some atricles on B school essays that raise a red flag on using this space to build on one's profile.
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I wouldn't worry. At least you're not in my position of having a whole year of crappy grades to explain. I mean, I have a valid reason, but I still hate the fact that they exist.


I've got 2 years of crappy grades to explain, and no explanation except being young, dumb, and lacking focus.

I'm not bothering to write essays about them, I am hoping my annual GPA progression speaks for itself.
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grad_mba: that is quite contrary to what Montauk, Bodine, and even MBA Game Plan says in their books. You are right in that some schools ask specifically for you to explain special circumstances with the optional essay, but if the school leaves the question open ended like Berkeley's, AND if there's an aspect of your candidacy that has not be discussed using the other required essays, then it's a good place to talk about that missing aspect.

None of the essays for Berkeley and UCLA allow me to talk about my love for teaching and mentoring (volunteering), and I believe if I write a succinct essay regarding that, it'll help round me out as a competitive candidate. In those situations, Montauk and Bodine recommends that you actually write the essay and NOT skip it.

If you have the article that talks about the school that frowns upon optional essays that are not about extenuating circumstances, please let me know. I'd like to see what school it is and what the exact question asked was.

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I think the common perception is that one should certainly write optional essays as long as a school does not say specifically that the optional essay is for extenuating circumstances only.

ps. This is assuming that you have something useful to say in the optional essay (Like in case of kryzak)
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I actually wish we DIDN'T have to write anything for the "optional" essay. But after reading Bodine's "Required Optional Essays" chapter, I'm convinced that if you have something IMPORTANT to add, you should add it. Definitely don't use the space to talk about random things you did or complain about something.

The optional essay should have a theme and be cohesive. Some of the HBS Successful Essays are great examples of what to write (though mine are FAR from the level of originality of those essays!)
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Thought this might help. Did you guys miss the "Frequently Asked Questions"?

How do you explain a Weak GPA?

https://www.gmatclub.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=35031

GPA Weight?

https://www.gmatclub.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=38457


Some words of wisdom from Hjort:

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A few thoughts come to mind:

1) If you are converting your GPA from a foreign system, make sure that your conversion is sound. A naive conversion to a 4.0 system is almost guaranteed to introduce a substantial downward bias (e.g., a 75% percent of a 100% scale is almost certainly better performance than a 3.0 on a 4.0 scale).

2) Compared to other graduate/professional school applicants, MBA candidates tend to have much older undergraduate records. The older the GPA, the more plausible your story that it no longer represents your true performance.

3) Relative to other graduate/professional schools, MBA programs have rather modest GPA expectations. Even schools in the top clusters have a mean not far above a B+.

4) Be careful with "cherry picking" when describing your GPA trend. In other words, if you wish to point to some sort of favorable trend in your GPA, it should make intuitive sense and be easy to explain.

5) As a gross overgeneralization, schools are wary of the "bright but lazy" concept. This can be a risky profile and higher cluster schools have a ready supply of students students with similar overall strength but less risk.

6) "What" and "Where" really do matter. The major and the school that awarded the degree are important considerations when evaluating a student's undergrad performance.
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Thank you Praet! I read those when I first joined and forgot about them. Great words of wisdom and definitely answered my question! Thank you!