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12 Sep 2018, 16:32
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Hi all,

I have just decided to start my GMAT journey and wanted to hear your opinions before I go deeper into the study.

I decided to start with setting up a baseline by doing diagnostics or practice tests first to understand where should I focus my attention.
Last week, I went to a local centre and gave a paper based non-adaptive diagnostics test without any preparation. I scored 620 with 80%+ in all sections, but SC, which was 35%. Being a non-native speak, I knew I needed to refresh my English, so I read through the Grammar Book, which I found in this forum, over this weekend and did some SC questions from OG.

I thought an actual CAT will tell a more realistic story about my baseline than paper based diagnostics test, so I took Kaplan CAT last night. My results were 680 (Q47, V36). I reviewed all questions I answered incorrectly; in quant I got questions incorrect mostly because I didn't know how to solve some problems fast enough or was lazy to do actual calculations and just guessed the number that I thought was 'close enough'; in verbal I got only 30-35% in SC and RC.

How realistic is this score?

My target score is 750+ within 1-2 months, I know I can achieve it with a proper study, but not really sure where to start since there are so many resources available online.
Any help would be much appreciated.
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12 Sep 2018, 19:08
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Hi 0rgil,

To start, a 680 is an outstanding score for an initial Diagnostic CAT, meaning that you are likely already a strong critical thinker. The most realistic CATs available are the 6 from GMAC (the 2 free CATs, and each of the 2 that come with Exam Pack 1 and Exam Pack 2), but the CATs from Kaplan, MGMAT and Veritas are all 'close enough' to the real thing that they will provide you with a relatively realistic score assessment (assuming that you use the CAT correctly).

Many Test Takers spend 3 months (or more) of consistent study time before they hit their 'peak' scores, so it's likely that you will need more than 1 month of study to hit your Score Goal.

Before I can offer you the specific advice that you’re looking for, it would help if you could provide a bit more information on your timeline and your goals:

1) What study materials are you currently using (or plan to use?)?
2) When are you planning to apply to Business School?
3) What Schools are you planning to apply to?

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12 Sep 2018, 19:10
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0rgil wrote:
Hi all,

I have just decided to start my GMAT journey and wanted to hear your opinions before I go deeper into the study.

I decided to start with setting up a baseline by doing diagnostics or practice tests first to understand where should I focus my attention.
Last week, I went to a local centre and gave a paper based non-adaptive diagnostics test without any preparation. I scored 620 with 80%+ in all sections, but SC, which was 35%. Being a non-native speak, I knew I needed to refresh my English, so I read through the Grammar Book, which I found in this forum, over this weekend and did some SC questions from OG.

I thought an actual CAT will tell a more realistic story about my baseline than paper based diagnostics test, so I took Kaplan CAT last night. My results were 680 (Q47, V36). I reviewed all questions I answered incorrectly; in quant I got questions incorrect mostly because I didn't know how to solve some problems fast enough or was lazy to do actual calculations and just guessed the number that I thought was 'close enough'; in verbal I got only 30-35% in SC and RC.

How realistic is this score?

My target score is 750+ within 1-2 months, I know I can achieve it with a proper study, but not really sure where to start since there are so many resources available online.
Any help would be much appreciated.
It's good that you took an adaptive test, and I think that the score you got is reasonably reliable. At the very least, it's good enough to decide on an initial plan of action.

That said, there are some reasons to take another test:

1. You did not take an official (GMATPrep) test (the official tests are the most reliable).
2. You were looking to just get through the test (and not to do the best you could).

If I were you, I'd take a GMATPrep after a little bit of prep, and I'd take it seriously. This is important because you're aiming for a very high score, and it is important to get an accurate picture of where you are now. Again, just keep in mind that there are only 6 GMATPreps available. No "lazy" calculations
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12 Sep 2018, 20:04
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Before I can offer you the specific advice that you’re looking for, it would help if you could provide a bit more information on your timeline and your goals:

1) What study materials are you currently using (or plan to use?)?
2) When are you planning to apply to Business School?
3) What Schools are you planning to apply to?

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1) I have OG for now. I have gone through the diagnostics sections and first 40 questions for SC. In these questions I had 80% accuracy, whereas only I got 30% correct in the SC portion of Kaplan CAT. I guess it is because of the 'adaptive' methodology, where most tests were higher difficulty. My friend is giving me the books he used for GMAT before, not sure which ones yet. I also do intend to purchase GMAC CATs in addition to 2 free ones for practice closer to the test date.

2) I was initially thinking to apply by end of the year, which might be too tight, or next year. It will all depend on where I am in my career (I will probably have to postpone MBA, if I get promoted to middle management)

3) If I were to go to an MBA, I am planning to apply only to top-tier schools (think top 3). I am from 'exotic' country and work in a niche industry, so I think my profile will fit in well from a diversity perspective .
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That said, there are some reasons to take another test:

1. You did not take an official test (the official tests are the most reliable).
2. You were looking to just get through the test (and not to do the best you could).

If I were you, I'd take a GMATPrep after a little bit of prep, and I'd take it seriously. This is important because you're aiming for a very high score, and it is important to get an accurate picture of where you are now. Again, just keep in mind that there are only 6 GMATPreps available. No "lazy" calculations

Yes, I did the test from 10pm-midnight, which was not ideal, and I might have skimmed throuogh some of the questions just to get throuogh the test.
I didn't use GMATPrep as the consensus here seemed like I shouldn't be wasting it. Having said that, I think I will purchase additional GMATPrep CAT tests and will do more closer to the actual date of the test. Do you think CAT every two weeks to see progress is reasonable timeframe?

Originally posted by 0rgil on 12 Sep 2018, 20:11.
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Hi 0rgil,

Since you're not working under a definitive 'timetable' at this point, you can proceed with your studies however you choose. If you want to begin with the books that you referred to, then that's fine - and you should study as you see fit for the next 2 weeks or so, then take a new FULL-LENGTH CAT in a realistic fashion (take the FULL CAT - with the Essay and IR sections, take it away from your home, at the same time of day as when you'll take the Official GMAT, etc.). Once you have that score, you should report back here and we can discuss th results and how best to proceed.

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Yes, I did the test from 10pm-midnight, which was not ideal, and I might have skimmed throuogh some of the questions just to get throuogh the test.
I didn't use GMATPrep as the consensus here seemed like I shouldn't be wasting it. Having said that, I think I will purchase additional GMATPrep CAT tests and will do more closer to the actual date of the test. Do you think CAT every two weeks to see progress is reasonable timeframe?
Yes. It's a good idea to front-load any non-official material and tests you have. Take a GMATPrep every once in a while and more often closer to your test. Getting more GMATPreps is also a good idea. A test every two weeks is also a good starting point (shift to once a week in the last 1 month or so).
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13 Sep 2018, 05:40
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I scored 620 with 80%+ in all sections, but SC, which was 35%.

Hi 0rgil! As per your current performance, SC definitely comes across as an area that would need your specific focus, to reach the 750 mark that you are targeting!

On that note, thought I would mention that our sentence correction book Sentence Correction Nirvana is perhaps the only book that offers a score improvement guarantee, and is especially designed for non-native speakers.

After reading the book twice (yes! it's an academic book, and so must be read twice in all seriousness, to reinforce the concepts), you will start looking forward to solving SC questions!

The book is available on Flipkart and Amazon.in. You might want to refer to these sites, to also read testimonials of how readers have benefited.

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13 Sep 2018, 08:58
0rgil wrote:
Hi all,

I have just decided to start my GMAT journey and wanted to hear your opinions before I go deeper into the study.

I decided to start with setting up a baseline by doing diagnostics or practice tests first to understand where should I focus my attention.
Last week, I went to a local centre and gave a paper based non-adaptive diagnostics test without any preparation. I scored 620 with 80%+ in all sections, but SC, which was 35%. Being a non-native speak, I knew I needed to refresh my English, so I read through the Grammar Book, which I found in this forum, over this weekend and did some SC questions from OG.

I thought an actual CAT will tell a more realistic story about my baseline than paper based diagnostics test, so I took Kaplan CAT last night. My results were 680 (Q47, V36). I reviewed all questions I answered incorrectly; in quant I got questions incorrect mostly because I didn't know how to solve some problems fast enough or was lazy to do actual calculations and just guessed the number that I thought was 'close enough'; in verbal I got only 30-35% in SC and RC.

How realistic is this score?

My target score is 750+ within 1-2 months, I know I can achieve it with a proper study, but not really sure where to start since there are so many resources available online.
Any help would be much appreciated.

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I’m glad you reached out, and I’m happy to help. So far, your diagnostic scores of 620 and 680 are pretty good; however you may also consider taking an official MBA.com practice exam to see how that score compares to your other practice exam score. Either way, I’m happy to provide some advice on how to improve your GMAT score.

It's possible to score 680 without fully understanding some topics or refining certain skills. To score 750+, your preparation is going to have to be more complete, meaning that you have to go through GMAT quant and verbal carefully to find your exact weaknesses, fill gaps in your knowledge, and strengthen your skills. The overall process will be to learn all about how to answer question types with which you currently aren't very comfortable and do dozens of practice questions category by category, basically driving up your score point by point. When you do dozens of questions of the same type one after the other, you learn just what it takes to get questions of that type correct consistently. If you aren't getting close to 90 percent of questions of a certain type correct, go back and seek to better understand how that type of question works, and then do more questions of that type until you get to around at least 90 percent accuracy in your training. If you get 100 percent of some sets correct, even better.

Since your verbal score is much lower than your quant score, you may need to follow a more linear and gradual study plan, one that allows you to slowly build GMAT mastery of one verbal topic prior to moving on to the next. Within each topic, begin with the foundations and progress toward more advanced concepts. For example, when studying Critical Reasoning, you need to ensure that you fully understand the essence of the various Critical Reasoning question types. Do you know the importance of an assumption within an argument? Can you easily spot a conclusion? Do you know how to resolve a paradox? Do you know how to properly evaluate cause and effect? Do you know how to properly weaken or strengthen an argument? These are just a few examples; you really need to take a deep dive into the individual Critical Reasoning topics such that you develop the necessary skills to properly attack any Critical Reasoning questions that you encounter.

As you learn each Critical Reasoning problem type, do focused practice so that you can track your skill in answering each type of question. If, for example, you incorrectly answered a Weaken the Argument question, ask yourself why. Did you make a careless mistake? Did you not recognize the specific question type? Were you doing too much analysis in your head? Did you skip over a keyword in an answer choice? You must thoroughly analyze your mistakes and seek to turn weaknesses into strengths by focusing on the question types you dread seeing and the questions you take a long time to answer correctly.

Sentence Correction is a bit of a different animal compared to Reading Comprehension and Critical Reasoning. There are three aspects to getting correct answers to GMAT Sentence Correction questions: what you know, such as grammar rules, what you see, such as violations of grammar rules and the logic of sentence structure, and what you do, such as carefully considering each answer choice in the context of the non-underlined portion of the sentence. To drive up your Sentence Correction score, you likely will have to work on all three of those aspects. Furthermore, the reason that your Sentence Correction performance has not improved is likely that you have not been working on all three of those aspects.

Regarding what you know, to be successful in Sentence Correction, first and foremost, you MUST know your grammar rules. Let's be clear, though: GMAT Sentence Correction is not just a test of knowledge of grammar rules. The reason for learning grammar rules is so that you can determine what sentences convey and whether sentences are well-constructed. In fact, in many cases, incorrect answers to Sentence Correction questions are grammatically flawless. Thus, often your task is to use your knowledge of grammar rules to determine which answer choice creates the most logical sentence meaning and structure.

This determination of whether sentences are well-constructed and logical is the second aspect of finding correct answers to Sentence Correction questions, what you see. To develop this skill, you probably have to slow way down. You won't develop this skill by spending under two minutes per question. For a while, anyway, you have to spend time with each question, maybe even ten or fifteen minutes on one question sometimes, analyzing every answer choice until you see the details that you have to see in order to choose the correct answer. As you go through the answer choices, consider the meaning conveyed by each version of the sentence. Does the meaning make sense? Even if you can tell what the version is SUPPOSED to convey, does the version really convey that meaning? Is there a verb to go with the subject? Do all pronouns in the sentence clearly refer to nouns in the sentence? By slowing way down and looking for these details, you learn to see what you have to see in order to clearly understand which answer to a Sentence Correction question is correct.

There is only one correct answer to any Sentence Correction question, there are clear reasons why that choice is correct and the others are not, and those reasons are not that the correct version simply "sounds right." In fact, the correct version often sounds a little off at first. That correct answers may sound a little off is not surprising. If the correct answer were always the one that sounded right, then most people most of the time would get Sentence Correction questions correct, without really knowing why the wrong answers were wrong and the correct answers were correct. So, you have to go beyond choosing what "sounds right" and learn to clearly see the logical reasons why one choice is better than all of the others.

As for the third aspect of getting Sentence Correction questions correct, what you do, the main thing that you have to do is be very careful.. You have to make sure that you are truly considering the structures of sentences and the meanings conveyed rather than allowing yourself to be tricked into choosing trap answers that sound right but don't convey meanings that make sense. You also have to make sure that you put some real energy into finding the correct answers. Finding the correct answer to a Sentence Correction question may take bouncing from choice to choice repeatedly until you start to see the differences between the choices that make all choices wrong except for one. Often, when you first look at the choices in a Sentence Correction question, only one or two seem obviously incorrect. It may take time for you to see what you have to see. Getting the right answers takes a certain work ethic. You have to be determined to see the differences and to figure out the precise reasons that one choice is correct.

To improve what you do when you answer Sentence Correction questions, seek to become aware of how you are going about answering them. Are you being careful and looking for logic and details, or are you quickly eliminating choices that sound a little off and then choosing the best of the rest? If you choose an incorrect answer, consider what you did that resulted in your arriving at that answer and what you could do differently in order to arrive at correct answers more consistently. Furthermore, see how many questions you can get correct in a row as you practice. If you break your streak by missing one, consider what you could have done differently to extend your streak.

As with your Critical Reasoning and Reading Comprehension regimens, after learning a particular Sentence Correction topic, engage in focused practice with 30 questions or more that involve that topic. As your Sentence Correction skills improve, you’ll then want to practice with SC questions that test you on skills from multiple SC topics.

So, work on accuracy and generally finding correct answers, work on specific weaker areas one by one to make them strong areas, and when you take a practice GMAT or the real thing, take all the time per question available to do your absolute best to get right answers consistently. The GMAT is essentially a game of seeing how many right answers you can get in the time allotted. Approach the test with that conception in mind, and focus intently on the question in front of you with one goal in mind: getting a CORRECT answer.

In order to follow the path described above, you may need some new verbal and quant materials, so take a look at the GMAT Club reviews for the best quant and verbal courses.

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23 Sep 2018, 02:55
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Hi 0rgil,

Since you're not working under a definitive 'timetable' at this point, you can proceed with your studies however you choose. If you want to begin with the books that you referred to, then that's fine - and you should study as you see fit for the next 2 weeks or so, then take a new FULL-LENGTH CAT in a realistic fashion (take the FULL CAT - with the Essay and IR sections, take it away from your home, at the same time of day as when you'll take the Official GMAT, etc.). Once you have that score, you should report back here and we can discuss th results and how best to proceed.

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So I have been studying mainly Verbal section these past 2 weeks and decided to take a GMATPrep CAT 1 today. The test was more difficult than Kaplan CAT and i also struggled with timing (had to guess few questions in the Verbal and IR sections, because I ran out of time). The calculator in IR has hard to use as well!
The score I got was 700 with Q48 and V38.

I do feel that I need to re-learn some of math concepts, because I made 11 mistakes and was only 69th percentile, and hopefully I am able to improve my score to Q50ish.
As for the verbal, I am still struggling a bit, but I think I need to work on my time management skills and reading techniques. I think I will want to be averaging V45ish before I do the actual test.
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Start off studying sort of "on-the-side" -- then once you commit to kicking things into high-gear -- then it's nothing but studying. Live, breath, and sleep the GMAT for full entire days. And then rest -- and then go at it again - then rest. Then review - and kickass on the exam.

http://www.gmatpill.com/gmat-practice-t ... study-plan

We also recommend a "Divide and Conquer" approach first.

That is - focus on specific sections - like Sentence Correction. Dedicate an entire day - heck, dedicate multiple consecutive days dedicated ONLY to sentence correction.

For example: tomorrow is "Sentence Correction Day" - and don't move on until you feel you've made a significant improvement and have results to show.

If you operate with that kind of work ethic - and apply that process to RC, RC, PS, DS, etc. -- then you will have individually made good progress in each section.

Then from there, it's about mixing and matching different verbal and quant questions - just as you would see them on the actual test. So take practice tests to simulate this mental switch between different question types under time pressure.

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Hi 0rgil,

GMAC has publicly stated that the Official Score that you earn on Test Day is within +/- 30 points of actual ability. Assuming a similar 'swing' in how your CATs function, your 2 CAT score results show that you essentially performed the same each time (about 690 +/- a few points). Since you're still relatively early-on in your studies, this isn't too surprising. "Your way" of approaching the Exam is leading to fairly consistent results. To consistently score at a much higher level, you will have to make some adjustments to how you 'see' (and respond to) the Exam.

"Review" is an exceptionally important part of the GMAT training process; your ability to define WHY you're getting questions wrong is essential to defining the areas that you need to work on (and the specific things that you need to 'fix'). As such, I'd like to know a bit more about your last CAT. While a full Mistake Tracker would provide a lot more information, there are some basic questions that you should be able to answer (and the more EXACT you can be with your answers, the better):

After reviewing each section of this recent CAT, how many questions did you get wrong....
1) Because of a silly/little mistake?
2) Because there was some math/verbal that you just could not remember how to do?
3) Because the question was too hard?
4) Because you were low on time and had to guess?
5) How many Verbal questions did you 'narrow down to 2 choices' but still get wrong?

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