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Thank you for your response!
Yes, I am just starting out, actually I will probably only start this Monday.
Well I am not planning to apply to a Business School, but to several graduate programs in Finance.
Here in Germany most of them also do require a GMAT to be taken.
As for my goal score, all the programs I'm looking for require a score of at least 600 points.
So I guess that would be my minimum, but I actually hope to score much more than that, since it is only the minimum requirement, which means that my chances of being admitted to the program would be close to zero with that score. According to the admission rules, a score of 700+ will get my in directly, since it is pretty rare here.

And just to ask you back: Something I never really understood is why you should already take a full CAT before you started studying?
I mean I will probably get like a 300 or something, which would only hurt my motivation/confidence. Isn't it better to go through the MGMAT books first and only then take CATS?
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Something I never really understood is why you should already take a full CAT before you started studying?
A diagnostic doesn't have to be the very first thing you do. But if you're looking to take the exam in ~2 months, it'd be a good idea to take one sooner rather than later. You'll be in a better position to plan your preparation.
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Thank you for your response!
Yes, I am just starting out, actually I will probably only start this Monday.
Well I am not planning to apply to a Business School, but to several graduate programs in Finance.
Here in Germany most of them also do require a GMAT to be taken.
As for my goal score, all the programs I'm looking for require a score of at least 600 points.
So I guess that would be my minimum, but I actually hope to score much more than that, since it is only the minimum requirement, which means that my chances of being admitted to the program would be close to zero with that score. According to the admission rules, a score of 700+ will get my in directly, since it is pretty rare here.

And just to ask you back: Something I never really understood is why you should already take a full CAT before you started studying?
I mean I will probably get like a 300 or something, which would only hurt my motivation/confidence. Isn't it better to go through the MGMAT books first and only then take CATS?
Dear rediforking,
I'm not sure who you are thanking for a response, but I am happy to respond. :-)

Here's what I will say about an initial diagnostic test. First of all, do NOT waste a high quality CAT on this. For example, do NOT waste one of the GMAT Prep tests, which are exceptionally high quality. If you are going to use the MGMAT CATs, which are also very good, do not waste one of them as a diagnostic. Save high quality material for the climax of your study period. For this initial GMAT, for diagnostic purposes, I don't even think it's that important to take a CAT on the computer. My advice would be to buy any GMAT prep book, used & cheap if possible, that has a practice GMAT in the back. It really doesn't matter if the book is tremendously high quality. Just take the paper test in the book. This will give you a very good sense of your relative strengths and weaknesses, thereby helping you to focus your studies.

I will also say: it is inevitably part of the process of studying for the GMAT that the student makes a lot of mistakes at the beginning. That is fine, that is natural, that is simply part of the process. This process requires a kind of emotional resilience. You can't afford to have your intrinsic sense of confidence attached to everything you happen to get right or wrong. Instead, it's extremely important to treasure each and every problem you get wrong, because each mistake is an opportunity for self-growth and self-improvement. In a way, you will learn the fastest if you are "hungry" to challenge yourself, make mistakes, and learn from them. Again, this process requires considerable emotional maturity and a certain disattachment to results, at least in the short term. In this connection, I will recommend a few blogs. First, a GRE blog about making mistakes:
https://magoosh.com/gre/2013/good-i-got-it-wrong/
Also, a GMAT blog about the paradox of being too goal-oriented in your prep:
https://magoosh.com/gmat/2014/getting-a-good-gmat-score/
Finally, an article about achieving a high GMAT score:
https://magoosh.com/gmat/2014/gmat-study ... 0-or-more/

I hope all this helps.

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Hi rediforking,

That initial CAT is useful because it establishes a 'baseline score' for you (which you can use later on for comparison purposes) and helps to establish your personal strengths and weaknesses. You shouldn't expect to do great on that first CAT (and you shouldn't be 'afraid' of it either - if looking at 'data' might impact your confidence, then a career in Finance might not be to your liking).

Some Test Takers wait so long to take that first CAT that they don't end up having enough time to fix the little 'issues' that hurt their performance before they take the actual GMAT... and they score at a lower level because of it. This is all meant to say that taking this first CAT is part of the overall process of properly preparing for the GMAT, so you shouldn't try to avoid it.

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Hi rediforking,

That initial CAT is useful because it establishes a 'baseline score' for you (which you can use later on for comparison purposes) and helps to establish your personal strengths and weaknesses. You shouldn't expect to do great on that first CAT (and you shouldn't be 'afraid' of it either - if looking at 'data' might impact your confidence, then a career in Finance might not be to your liking).

Some Test Takers wait so long to take that first CAT that they don't end up having enough time to fix the little 'issues' that hurt their performance before they take the actual GMAT... and they score at a lower level because of it. This is all meant to say that taking this first CAT is part of the overall process of properly preparing for the GMAT, so you shouldn't try to avoid it.

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Dunno, I have never taken a CAT so I am completely a newbie in this area. But I have studied for many different tests in my undergraduate program, which already included tests in courses like derivatives, corporate finance, insurance and risk management. All I know is that in "normal" exams, it is useless to take a test form the past before you have studied. Actually to be honest it was almost always useless to take an exam from the past in those courses , since the actual exam was always completely different. I have always studied by reviewing the material first, making sure that I understand that. Not sure if this approach applies to the GMAT though.
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Hi rediforking,

From this last post, it sounds as if you're trying to talk yourself out of taking this initial CAT. You're going to take several CATs over the course of your studies - doing so is an essential part of the prep process - so don't overthink this 'step'. Set aside 4 hours of time and try your best. Whatever the result is, you'll learn A LOT from that first experience.

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