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How much time should I take before retaking GMAT? (680->720)

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Hello,
I just got out of the exam room of my first GMAT attempt, with the score of 680.

It’s not a bad score, but I was very disappointed since I had scored 700-740 on my three prep tests. (2 GMAC and 1 Manhattan)

The school I initially wanted to apply has avg GMAT score of 670, but since I was doing better than expected on preps, I wanted to aim for higher schools.

I was always weak on Verbal, ranging 34-41, while Quant was ranging 48-50.
And today I got good Quant score of 50 but an awful Verbal score of 31 :(

I only started studying seriously for about four weeks, so I hope if I put more time and effort, I can achieve 700+.

So my question is, how much time is adequate to prepare for a retake? I think taking too much time will make me lose motivation, but I’m not sure how long the minimum period is to make some actual difference.

Also, I just took three free Prep tests, some free youtube lectures and OG 2018.
What further materials should I use this time?
I heard OG questions are the same except a few dozens every year, so should I rather take official quant/verbal review 2019 or some other book? are some non-official materials better to access more difficult questions to aim for 700+?

Thanks for your advice in advance :)

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Hi minana,

First off, a 680/Q50 is a strong score (it's right around the 85th percentile overall), so it could be enough to get you into your first-choice School. As such, a retest might not be necessary. Before I can offer you the specific advice that you’re looking for, it would help if you could provide a bit more information on how you've been studying and your goals:

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1) How have you scored on each of your CATs (including the Quant and Verbal Scaled Scores for each)?
2) Did you take the FULL CAT each time (with the Essay and IR sections)?
3) Did you take the CATs at home?

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4) When are you planning to apply to Business School?
5) What Schools are you planning to apply to?

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New post 25 Aug 2018, 01:35
Hello Rich,

Thanks for your reply.

Here are my answers,

1) My CAT scores were as below:
Prep1 700-Q50-V34
Prep2 740-Q49-V41
Manhattan1 710-Q48-V39

2) For Prep 1,2 I took Q, V, and IR but without AWA, and for the final prep before the test day I took the whole thing! But I always took it in the order of Q-V-IR-AWA so may be this doesn’t affect the test score.

3) Yes I always took them at home, and for the first Prep I didn’t take any breaks but for the next two tests I have taken some breaks from time to time, which I’m not proud of ?

4) I plan to apply for business schools for 2019, and I want to apply by round2 (mostly Jan)

5) I’m not applying for MBAs, but I’m trying to apply for MiM progams in Europe, and my top choices are LBS and LSE. LBS officially says the avg GMAT score of their students was 681 last year. So I thought it would be safe to bring the score above 700.

Thank you.

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Hi minana,

GMAC has publicly stated that the Official Score that you earn on Test Day is within +/- 30 points of actual ability. Assuming a similar 'swing' in how your CATs function, your 3 CAT results - along with your Official GMAT Score - show that you essentially performed the same each time (about 710 +/- a few points). You likely have the potential to hit 700+ right now, but you made a few little mistakes on Test Day that kept you from hitting that score range.

With a V31, you likely had one category (RC, SC or CR) that was notably weaker than the other two - and you could potentially have had pacing issues on individual categories or in the section overall. While the Enhanced Score Report doesn't provide a lot of information, there are usually a few data points that we can use to define what went wrong (and what you should work on to score higher). If you purchase the ESR, then I'll be happy to analyze it for you.

1) What study materials have you used so far?
2) Going forward, how many hours do you think you can consistently study each week?

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New post 28 Aug 2018, 19:19
Hi minana,

For starters, nice job with the Q50! Regarding your verbal score, since you have not been studying for that long and just scored a V31, you likely need to spend some time improving your verbal skills before scheduling your next GMAT.

You will need a study plan that allows you to slowly build GMAT mastery of one topic prior to moving on to the next. Within each topic, begin with the foundations and progress toward more advanced concepts.
For example, let’s say you begin studying Critical Reasoning. When studying Critical Reasoning, you need to ensure that you fully understand the essence of the various Critical Reasoning question types. For instance, do you know the importance of an assumption within an argument? Can you easily spot a conclusion? Do you know how to resolve a paradox? Do you know how to properly evaluate cause and effect? Do you know how to properly weaken or strengthen an argument? These are just a few examples; you really need to take a deep dive into the individual Critical Reasoning topics such that you develop the necessary skills to properly attack any Critical Reasoning questions that you encounter.

As you learn each Critical Reasoning problem type, do focused practice so that you can track your skill in answering each type of question. If, for example, you incorrectly answered a Weaken the Argument question, ask yourself why. Did you make a careless mistake? Did you not recognize the specific Critical Reasoning question type? Were you doing too much analysis in your head? Did you skip over a keyword in an answer choice? You must thoroughly analyze your mistakes and seek to turn weaknesses into strengths by focusing on the question types you dread seeing and the questions you take a long time to answer correctly.

When practicing Reading Comprehension, you need to develop a reading strategy that is both efficient and thorough. Reading too fast and not understanding what you have read are equally as harmful as reading too slow and using up too much time. When attacking Reading Comprehension passages, you must have one clear goal in mind: to understand the context of what you are reading. However, you must do so efficiently, so you need to avoid getting bogged down in the details of each paragraph and focus on understanding the main point of each paragraph. That being said, do not fall into the trap of thinking that you can just read the intro and the conclusion and comprehend the main idea of a paragraph. As you read a paragraph, consider how the context of the paragraph relates to previous paragraphs, so you can continue developing your overall understanding of the passage. Furthermore, as you practice Reading Comprehension, focus on the exact types of questions with which you struggle: Find the Main Idea, Inference, Author’s Tone, etc. As with Critical Reasoning, analyze your incorrect answers to better determine why you tend to get a particular question type wrong, and then improve upon your weaknesses. You can perfect your reading strategy with a lot of practice. However, keep in mind that GMAT Reading Comprehension passages are not meant to be stimulating, so to better prepare yourself to tackle such passages, read magazines with similar content and style, such as the Economist, Scientific American, and Smithsonian.

Sentence Correction, on the other hand, is a bit of a different animal compared to Reading Comprehension and Critical Reasoning. There are three aspects to getting correct answers to GMAT Sentence Correction questions: what you know, such as grammar rules, what you see, such as violations of grammar rules and the logic of sentence structure, and what you do, such as carefully considering each answer choice in the context of the non-underlined portion of the sentence. To drive up your Sentence Correction score, you likely will have to work on all three of those aspects. Furthermore, the reason that your Sentence Correction performance has not improved is likely that you have not been working on all three of those aspects.

Regarding what you know, to be successful in Sentence Correction, first and foremost, you MUST know your grammar rules. Let's be clear, though: GMAT Sentence Correction is not just a test of knowledge of grammar rules. The reason for learning grammar rules is so that you can determine what sentences convey and whether sentences are well-constructed. In fact, in many cases, incorrect answers to Sentence Correction questions are grammatically flawless. Thus, often your task is to use your knowledge of grammar rules to determine which answer choice creates the most logical sentence meaning and structure.

This determination of whether sentences are well-constructed and logical is the second aspect of finding correct answers to Sentence Correction questions, what you see. To develop this skill, you probably have to slow way down. You won't develop this skill by spending under two minutes per question. For a while, anyway, you have to spend time with each question, maybe even ten or fifteen minutes on one question sometimes, analyzing every answer choice until you see the details that you have to see in order to choose the correct answer. As you go through the answer choices, consider the meaning conveyed by each version of the sentence. Does the meaning make sense? Even if you can tell what the version is SUPPOSED to convey, does the version really convey that meaning? Is there a verb to go with the subject? Do all pronouns in the sentence clearly refer to nouns in the sentence? By slowing way down and looking for these details, you learn to see what you have to see in order to clearly understand which answer to a Sentence Correction question is correct.

There is only one correct answer to any Sentence Correction question, there are clear reasons why that choice is correct and the others are not, and those reasons are not that the correct version simply "sounds right." In fact, the correct version often sounds a little off at first. That correct answers may sound a little off is not surprising. If the correct answer were always the one that sounded right, then most people most of the time would get Sentence Correction questions correct, without really knowing why the wrong answers were wrong and the correct answers were correct. So, you have to go beyond choosing what "sounds right" and learn to clearly see the logical reasons why one choice is better than all of the others.

As for the third aspect of getting Sentence Correction questions correct, what you do, the main thing you have to do is be very careful. You have to make sure that you are truly considering the structures of sentences and the meanings conveyed rather than allowing yourself to be tricked into choosing trap answers that sound right but don't convey meanings that make sense. You also have to make sure that you put some real energy into finding the correct answers. Finding the correct answer to a Sentence Correction question may take bouncing from choice to choice repeatedly until you start to see the differences between the choices that make all choices wrong except for one. Often, when you first look at the choices in a Sentence Correction question, only one or two seem obviously incorrect. It may take time for you to see what you have to see. Getting the right answers takes a certain work ethic. You have to be determined to see the differences and to figure out the precise reasons that one choice is correct.

To improve what you do when you answer Sentence Correction questions, seek to become aware of how you are going about answering them. For instance, are you being careful and looking for logic and details, or are you quickly eliminating choices that sound a little off and then choosing the best of the rest? If you choose an incorrect answer, consider what you did that resulted in your arriving at that answer and what you could do differently in order to arrive at correct answers more consistently. Furthermore, see how many questions you can get correct in a row as you practice. If you break your streak by missing one, consider what you could have done differently that would have extended your streak.

As with your Critical Reasoning and Reading Comprehension regimens, after learning a particular Sentence Correction topic, engage in focused practice with 30 questions or more that involve that topic. As your Sentence Correction skills improve, you’ll then want to practice with SC questions that test you on skills from multiple SC topics.

Ultimately, if you are unable to learn and practice in the manner described above, you may consider looking for additional verbal prep resources. If you are unsure of which resources to choose, check out some reviews here on GMAT Club.

You also may find my article with more information regarding
how to score a 700+ on the GMAT helpful.

Feel free to reach out with any questions.

Good luck!
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New post 04 Sep 2018, 02:00
Hi minana,

I am sorry that your scores are not in line with your expectations. Your Verbal score of V31 corresponds to a 61 percentile which suggests specific concept and process gaps. You must work towards identifying those gaps and plugging them. To learn how to estimate the time required for improving your score I would recommend that you go through step 2 of section 2 in the article about Personalized Study Plans.

Preparing for Verbal

Since there are specific gaps in concepts and process, as a first step you must know exactly what these gaps are. You can use the below mentioned steps to reach your target score:

I am sharing a few success stories of other students who were once in the same situation as you and then improved to their target score as a motivation.
• Rhea improved from a V32 (620) to V41 (760) in 40 days. Click here to watch her inspiring video interview. Click here to read her de-brief.

• Martina improved from V31 (620) to V46 (730) in just 3 weeks. Click here to watch her interview.

If you need any further assistance, you may write to us at support@e-gmat.com.

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