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the system time shows 2 mins, i have spent over 5 minutes on this and still got it wrong, how are people getting it correctly ? could someone give me tips to improve speed in this type of heavy graph data questions
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Hi Bunuel . I have always the following question: ¿Is it not the correct answer three times larger? I say this because two times larger means actually three times the original verions, the same with 1 time larger, it would be actually twice the original. For example :
The phrase "two times larger" means the circle's area is three times the area of the square because "two times larger" implies 2 times more in addition to the original (1x).

This is actually a matter of phrasing, because I always remember that was my mystake when I was a child, whenever you see x times larger it is actually that in addition to the original .. Pleas..

Please correct me if that rule does not follow in the actual gmat.. Thanks
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Hi Bunuel . I have always the following question: ¿Is it not the correct answer three times larger? I say this because two times larger means actually three times the original verions, the same with 1 time larger, it would be actually twice the original. For example :
The phrase "two times larger" means the circle's area is three times the area of the square because "two times larger" implies 2 times more in addition to the original (1x).

This is actually a matter of phrasing, because I always remember that was my mystake when I was a child, whenever you see x times larger it is actually that in addition to the original .. Pleas..

Please correct me if that rule does not follow in the actual gmat.. Thanks
No, that's not correct.

Here is my post from another topic addressing this issue:

Agree that it's confusing but check below:

Merriam Webster's Dictionary of English Usage:


The argument in this case is that times more (or times larger, times stronger, times brighter, etc.) is ambiguous, so that "He has five times more money than you" can be misunderstood as meaning "He has six times as much money as you." It is, in fact, possible to misunderstand times more in this way, but it takes a good deal of effort. If you have $100, five times that is $500, which means that "five times more than $100" can mean (the commentators claim) "$500 more than $100," which equals "$600," which equals "six times as much as $100." The commentators regard this as a serious ambiguity, and they advise you to avoid it by always saying "times as much" instead of "times more." Here again, it seems that they are paying homage to mathematics at the expense of language. The fact is that "five times more" and "five times as much" are idiomatic phrases which have - and are understood to have - exactly the same meaning.

The "ambiguity" of times more is imaginary: in the world of actual speech and writing, the meaning of times more is clear and unequivocal. It is an idiom that has existed in our language for more than four centuries, and there is no real reason to avoid its use.


More on this here.

Also, check the following posts by Ianstewart:

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Hi, I have an issue with the phrase "greater than"

If I say X is twice of Y, then it should mean --> X = 2Y
If I say X is two times greater than Y, shouldn't it mean --> X = 3Y

There seems to be some confusion about this earlier in this thread. The phrase "X is 2 times greater than Y" simply means that X = 2Y. It's understandable that this might seem confusing, because if instead we say "X is 200% greater than Y" we definitely mean that X = 3Y, but this all boils down to idiomatic usage in English. If you think of smaller numbers, it might be clear this is how the phrase is used in the language (there's a reason you've never heard anyone say "X is 1 times greater than Y" to mean that X is twice as big as Y), and it's also what the dictionary says, as quoted at this link:

https://mathforum.org/library/drmath/view/61774.html
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I did not quite understand the solution. Can someone please explain the first drop down. Why is the combined area 100 and not 80? What am I misreading?
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I did not quite understand the solution. Can someone please explain the first drop down. Why is the combined area 100 and not 80? What am I misreading?

I assume you're getting 80 by summing the 40% for PA and VA rural, but you're misreading the question and the graph. The graph shows percent change from 1982 to 1997, not actual areas. The solution assumes the combined rural area of PA and VA was 100 units in 1982. That’s just an assumption to apply the percent changes.
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I like the solution - it’s helpful.
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I like the solution - it’s helpful.
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I am still stuck on this one, since if we say that a is 4 times larger than b, then it means a = 5 *b or absolute value of a = b + 4*b -> a=5*b.

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Drop-down 1:

Assuming the combined rural area of Pennsylvania (PA) and Virginia (VA) was 100 \(unit^2\) in 1982, the pasture area in West Virginia (WV) would be 50 \(unit^2\) in the same year. From the graph, we see that the rural areas of both Pennsylvania (PA) and Virginia (VA) increased by 40%, so in 1997, the combined rural area would become 140 \(unit^2\). Meanwhile, the pasture area in West Virginia (WV) decreased by 25%, reducing it to 37.5 \(unit^2\). Therefore, in 1997, the combined rural area of Pennsylvania (PA) and Virginia (VA) was \(\frac{140}{37.5} \approx 4\) times larger than the pasture area in West Virginia.

Drop-down 2:

Delaware's cropland decreased by 35% from 1982 to 1997, so 380,000 acres of cropland in 1997 implies that in 1982 it was \(\frac{380,000}{0.65} \approx 585,000\) acres. During the same period, Maryland's (MD) cropland decreased by 10%, so 500,000 acres of cropland in 1997 implies that in 1982 it was \(\frac{500,000}{0.90} \approx 555,000\) acres. Therefore, in 1982, Delaware had approximately 30,000 acres more cropland than Maryland.


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Dropdown 1: "4"

Dropdown 2: "30,000 acres more"
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I am still stuck on this one, since if we say that a is 4 times larger than b, then it means a = 5 *b or absolute value of a = b + 4*b -> a=5*b.

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Please read the whole thread: https://gmatclub.com/forum/i03-340570.html#p3510558
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