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# If a, b, c, and d are all positive integers, is c divisible by a/d?

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If a, b, c, and d are all positive integers, is c divisible by a/d?

(1) b*c is divisible by a
(2) GCF (a,b) = d
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23 Dec 2013, 00:09
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mniyer wrote:
If a,b,c, and d are all positive integers, is c divisible by a/d?

(1) b * c is divisible by a
(2) GCF (a,b) = d

I'm not sure about the answer and I don't know the source. Appreciate posts with explanation.

Taking 1) alone you can not say anything about d. so insufficient.
Taking 2) alone you can not say anything about c,so insufficient.

By taking both of them.
From 1: as b*c is divisible by a so we can write a multiply by some integer(n) equals b*c.
b*c == n*a

2nd statement can say
a= r*d
b= x*d
putting b in first.

x*d*c = n*a

c= (n/x)*(a/d)

now n/x is integer.

So answer will be C.

While You can test by taking diffrent example n/X is coming integer. If you can prove wrong answer will be D.

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23 Dec 2013, 14:21
For me it is C.

Using the first statement to define an equation: CB/A=k

Using the second statement to say that you can factorize by D.

With the both answers you can definitely answer to the question.

Can we have OA?
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23 Dec 2013, 14:40
I'm going with E.

Based on part I, we know that a/d is an integer. THat means that d/a might be an integer, or it might not (if it's an integer, it would have to be 1, if d=a).

Based on part II, we know that C/A is an integer.. so to prove that DC/A is an integer, we would need proof, one way or the other, that D/A is an integer. Unfortunately, we can't make that distinction either positively or negatively for reasons discussed in the previous paragraph.
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27 Dec 2013, 12:54
Firstly, I thought E

given a,b,c,d are positive integers. Is c divisible by a/d implies $$\frac{c}{a/d}=\frac{cd}{a}=int$$

(1) b * c is divisible by a
Factor 'a' can be present in 'b' or in 'c'..... We cannot exactly say if 'c' has factor 'a' to make $$\frac{cd}{a}$$ integer because 'b' can also have a factor 'a' or both 'b', 'c' can have a factor of 'a'- Not Sufficient

(2) GCF (a,b) = d
GCF of a,b is d in the sense..... both 'a' and 'b' will have a common factor 'd'.... but you do not know exactly what is 'a'... 'a' can just be 'd' or '2d' or '3d' or 'nd' in which case $$\frac{cd}{a}$$ has a remaining factor from 'a' (except 'a'='d' case all other cases have factors such as 2,3, or n) in the denominator..... For $$\frac{cd}{a}$$ to be an integer the remaining factor of 'a' should also be present in 'c'. Not sufficient.

(1) + (2)
there are still possible cases of both things to happen...
My working was as below.
GCF (a,b) = d. In other words we can write as $$a=Ad$$ and $$b=Bd$$ where (A, B) should be (even, odd) or (odd, even) or (prime numbers).
From 1, $$c=integer*a/b$$ implies $$c = integer*A/B$$

Now consider $$\frac{cd}{a}$$. substituting values $$\frac{cd}{a}$$= $$integer*A/B *d/Ad$$ = $$integer/B$$. Since there are no restrictions with Integer and B, I went with E.... that fraction can be an integer or a non-integer.
But I am not able to create examples for showing $$\frac{cd}{a}$$ is not integer are yielding contradictory values.... Answer may be C.... Can someone decode the logic from where I left off. Thanks.
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30 Dec 2013, 22:15
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mniyer wrote:
If a,b,c, and d are all positive integers, is c divisible by a/d?

(1) b * c is divisible by a
(2) GCF (a,b) = d

I'm not sure about the answer and I don't know the source. Appreciate posts with explanation.

Responding to a pm:

Question: Is c divisible by a/d?

(1) b * c is divisible by a
b*c = a*m (m is an integer)
Doesn't tell us anything about d. We could give d any value to get yes or no as answers. Not sufficient alone.

(2) GCF (a,b) = d
a = d*p
b = d*q (p and q are co-prime integers i.e. they have no common factor except 1)
This doesn't tell us anything about c. We could give c any value to get yes or no as answers. Not sufficient alone.

Now the answer will be either (C) or (E).
Using both statements together, let's get everything in terms of d for comparison.

a = d*p
b = d*q
c = a*m/b = dpm/dq = pm/q
Now, since p and q have no common factors but c is an integer, m must be a multiple of q. Therefore, c = p*(Some integer) ........ (I)

Question: Is c divisible by a/d?
a/d = d*p/d = p
Question: Is c divisible by p?
From (I) above, we know that c is a multiple of p and hence is divisible by p. So 'YES, c is divisible by a/d.'

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Re: If a, b, c, and d are all positive integers, is c divisible by a/d?  [#permalink]

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30 Dec 2013, 22:27
mniyer wrote:
If a,b,c, and d are all positive integers, is c divisible by a/d?

(1) b * c is divisible by a
(2) GCF (a,b) = d

I'm not sure about the answer and I don't know the source. Appreciate posts with explanation.

You can also think logically without getting into a ton of variables.

Using both together:

GCF (a,b) = d means a and b both have d as a factor and nothing else common e.g. a = 2d, b = 3d etc
b*c is divisible by a. b and a have only d common so the leftover factors of a must be in c. That is, the 2 of a must be a factor of c so that b*c is divisible by a.

Question is whether c is divisible by a/d. a already has d as a factor and another factor (2 in our example). We have already established above that the leftover factor must be a factor of c i.e. 2 must be in c. Hence c is divisible by a/d (a/d is 2 in our example).

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31 Dec 2013, 10:03
VeritasPrepKarishma wrote:

Responding to a pm:

Thank you for stopping by. I was the person who pm'd you. I messed it up above with too many variables. Your solution is now clear. Thank you.
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VeritasPrepKarishma wrote:
mniyer wrote:
If a,b,c, and d are all positive integers, is c divisible by a/d?

(1) b * c is divisible by a
(2) GCF (a,b) = d

I'm not sure about the answer and I don't know the source. Appreciate posts with explanation.

You can also think logically without getting into a ton of variables.

Using both together:

GCF (a,b) = d means a and b both have d as a factor and nothing else common e.g. a = 2d, b = 3d etc
b*c is divisible by a. b and a have only d common so the leftover factors of a must be in c. That is, the 2 of a must be a factor of c so that b*c is divisible by a.

Question is whether c is divisible by a/d. a already has d as a factor and another factor (2 in our example). We have already established above that the leftover factor must be a factor of c i.e. 2 must be in c. Hence c is divisible by a/d (a/d is 2 in our example).

Is this wrong ?
Ler b= 2 c= 3 a= 2

Then b*c is divisible by a
and GCD (a,b)= 2 hence d = 2

a/d = 2/2= 1
c= 3
Is 1 divisible by 3 ? No

Let b= 2 c= 3 a= 3
Then b*c is divisible by a
and GCD (a,b)= 1= d

a/d= 3/1 = 3 ,
C= 3
Is 3 divisible by 3? yes

How come I am getting E?
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14 Jul 2014, 12:26
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Is this wrong ?
Ler b= 2 c= 3 a= 2

Then b*c is divisible by a
and GCD (a,b)= 2 hence d = 2

a/d = 2/2= 1
c= 3
Is 1 divisible by 3 ? No

Let b= 2 c= 3 a= 3
Then b*c is divisible by a
and GCD (a,b)= 1= d

a/d= 3/1 = 3 ,
C= 3
Is 3 divisible by 3? yes

How come I am getting E?

I recommend you to read the question stem once again. It says "is c divisible by a/d?" but in your first case of number plugging you tried the other way i.e. is a/d divisible by c? In your example, the statement should be is 3 divisible by 1? Yes.
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