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If r is the remainder when the positive integer n is divided by 7, what is the value of r? (1) When r is divided by 21, the remainder is an odd number. (2) When n is divided by 28, the remainder is 3.
n = 7x + r
according to (1): n = 21y + r1 (r1 is odd) n = 7(3y) + r1 meaning the remainder while dividing by 21 and by 7 is the same odd number, but we don't have a way to find it.
according to (2): n = 28y + 3 n = 7(4y) + 3 therefore r = 3, and (2) is sufficient.
Is my reasoning correct, is there a better way to explain it? Of course, we don't to explain in the GMAT, but I want to make sure my understanding is correct.
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according to (1): n = 21y + r1 (r1 is odd) n = 7(3y) + r1 meaning the remainder while dividing by 21 and by 7 is the same odd number, but we don't have a way to find it.
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Nope, r and r1 are not necessarily the same. Don't forget : n = 7x + r, with r between 0 and 6 (inclusive)
n = 21y + r1, with r1 between 0 and 20 (inclusive)
We could have r1=17, which is odd and though r won't be equal to 17 then (but 17-2*7 = 3)
That being said, it its true that you don't know much about r1 and therefore don't know much about r (all you can say is that it is odd too, so r belongs to {1,3,5})
For instance : n = 26 ==> r1 = 5 and r=5 n = 38 ==> r1 = 17 and r=3
If r is the remainder when the positive integer n is divided by 7, what is the value of r? (1) When r is divided by 21, the remainder is an odd number. (2) When n is divided by 28, the remainder is 3.
n = 7x + r
according to (1): n = 21y + r1 (r1 is odd) n = 7(3y) + r1 meaning the remainder while dividing by 21 and by 7 is the same odd number, but we don't have a way to find it.
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well you really dont need to get into calculations here, we know r < 7 so the reminder of r/21 is "r" for sure and r being odd r can be 1,3,5 (NOT sufficient)
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according to (2): n = 28y + 3 n = 7(4y) + 3 therefore r = 3, and (2) is sufficient.
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good approach i think..
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Is my reasoning correct, is there a better way to explain it? Of course, we don't to explain in the GMAT, but I want to make sure my understanding is correct.
according to (1): n = 21y + r1 (r1 is odd) n = 7(3y) + r1 meaning the remainder while dividing by 21 and by 7 is the same odd number, but we don't have a way to find it.
Nope, r and r1 are not necessarily the same. Don't forget : n = 7x + r, with r between 0 and 6 (inclusive)
n = 21y + r1, with r1 between 0 and 20 (inclusive)
We could have r1=17, which is odd and though r won't be equal to 17 then (but 17-2*7 = 3)
That being said, it its true that you don't know much about r1 and therefore don't know much about r (all you can say is that it is odd too, so r belongs to {1,3,5})
For instance : n = 26 ==> r1 = 5 and r=5 n = 38 ==> r1 = 17 and r=3
==> (1) is insufficient
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So the reason we can move from n = 28y + 3 to n = 7(4y) + 3 and deduce the remainder is the same, is that 3 < 7 ?
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