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Sorry , my question was not correclty formulated.
i somewhere read that trapezoid is a special type of parallelogram with one pare of parallel sides. Could that be right?



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tinki wrote: Sorry , my question was not correclty formulated.
i somewhere read that trapezoid is a special type of parallelogram with one pare of parallel sides. Could that be right? Common definition of a trapezoid: a quadrilateral which has at least one pair of parallel sides. Common definition of a parallelogram: a quadrilateral with two pairs of parallel sides. According to these definitions all parallelograms are trapezoids but not all trapezoids are parallelograms. Other definition of a trapezoid is: a quadrilateral which has only one pair of parallel sides. So according to this definition a parallelogram can not be a trapezoid at all. But the above has nothing to do with the original question because we are told that the figure is a prallelogram: "If the area of a parallelogram is...".
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cant parallelogram be trapezoid with equal sides ? (in that case the area of trapezoid will be totally different and the answer will be E ) Trapezoid is not a parallelogram. Parallelogram has four sides where opposite sides are always equal and parallel, whereas in a trapezoid, only one pair opposite sides is parallel. Parallelograms: Rectangle, Square, Rhombus. Area of parallelogram = base * height = 100 1. base = 10; base * height = 10 * height = 100 height = 10 But, we can't find the other side of the parallelogram in order to find the perimeter. Not sufficient. 2. One of the angles is 45. Say parallelogram PQRS, where PR is parallel to QS. \(\angle{Q}\) is \(45{\circ}\) If a line is drawn perpendicular from point P to QS and it meets at point X. We know that the altitude, distance between PR and QS, is same as the distance between Q and X. We don't know the side. Not sufficient. Using both, as earlier explained, X is nothing but R. So, the side becomes the hypotenuse of the right triangle with base 10 and altitude 10, \(10\sqrt{2}\) Perimeter: \(10+10\sqrt{2}\) Answer: "C"
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using 1+2 2*( 10 + 10 *(2)^1/2) Hence C.
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Shouldn't the answer be (B)
Let's say base = Height = x (because given 45 degree condition, we end up with an isosceles right triangle as shown above) then question stem says x*x = 100 which means that x= 10 and the other side = x*root(2) (as per isosceles right triangle prop.)
Then we have P = 2( 10 + 10* root(2))
Why need A when we can get the same info from only statement 2?



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Bunuel! thanks for such good explanations, really appreciate that!! +1 to you!
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Bunuel wrote: mirzohidjon wrote: Hi, Bunuel, I really appreciate your effort to help us. Finally after your explanation, I got the answer (since I imagined what kind of parallelogram the problem was talking about. But, based on what assumptions, you deduce that parallelogram needs to be the way you described (diagonal equal to height)? Attachment: PointLatticeParallelograms_1000.gif If the area of a parallelogram is 100, what is the perimeter of the parallelogram? Given: \(Area=base*height=100\). Q: \(P=2b+2l=?\) (b  base, l  leg ) (1) The base of the parallelogram is 10 > \(base=height=10\). Infinite variations are possible. Look at the diagram (let the distance between two horizontal and vertical points be 10): all 4 parallelograms have \(base=height=10\) but they have different perimeter. Not sufficient. Side notes: \(l\geq{10}\), when \(l=10=h\) we would have the square (case #3 on the diagram) and \(P=40\) (smallest possible perimeter), maximum value of perimeter is not limited. (2) One of the angles of the parallelogram is 45 degrees. Clearly insufficient. But from this statement height BX and AX will make isosceles right triangle: \(height=BX=AX\). (1)+(2) As from 2 we have that \(height=BX=AX\) and from (1) we have that \(base=height=10\) > \(AX=base=AD=10\) > X and D coincide (case #4 on the diagram) > leg (AB) becomes hypotenuse of the isosceles right triangle with sides equal to 10 > \(AB=10\sqrt{2}\) > \(P=20+20\sqrt{2}\). Sufficient. Answer: C. Attachment: m1031.png Hope it's clear. Bunuel, The soln mentioned in the below link makes sense to me.. B seems sufficient. http://www.beatthegmat.com/beatthisif ... tml#590466
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Sachin9 wrote: Bunuel wrote: mirzohidjon wrote: Hi, Bunuel, I really appreciate your effort to help us. Finally after your explanation, I got the answer (since I imagined what kind of parallelogram the problem was talking about. But, based on what assumptions, you deduce that parallelogram needs to be the way you described (diagonal equal to height)? Attachment: PointLatticeParallelograms_1000.gif If the area of a parallelogram is 100, what is the perimeter of the parallelogram? Given: \(Area=base*height=100\). Q: \(P=2b+2l=?\) (b  base, l  leg ) (1) The base of the parallelogram is 10 > \(base=height=10\). Infinite variations are possible. Look at the diagram (let the distance between two horizontal and vertical points be 10): all 4 parallelograms have \(base=height=10\) but they have different perimeter. Not sufficient. Side notes: \(l\geq{10}\), when \(l=10=h\) we would have the square (case #3 on the diagram) and \(P=40\) (smallest possible perimeter), maximum value of perimeter is not limited. (2) One of the angles of the parallelogram is 45 degrees. Clearly insufficient. But from this statement height BX and AX will make isosceles right triangle: \(height=BX=AX\). (1)+(2) As from 2 we have that \(height=BX=AX\) and from (1) we have that \(base=height=10\) > \(AX=base=AD=10\) > X and D coincide (case #4 on the diagram) > leg (AB) becomes hypotenuse of the isosceles right triangle with sides equal to 10 > \(AB=10\sqrt{2}\) > \(P=20+20\sqrt{2}\). Sufficient. Answer: C. Attachment: m1031.png Hope it's clear. Bunuel, The soln mentioned in the below link makes sense to me.. B seems sufficient. http://www.beatthegmat.com/beatthisif ... tml#590466The correct answer is C, not B. The solution there is not correct. Please read the thread carefully.
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robinmrtha wrote: If the area of a parallelogram is 100, what is the perimeter of the parallelogram?
1. The base of the parallelogram is 10. 2. One of the angles of the parallelogram is 45 degrees.
Statement 1 base = 10 given area of a parallelogram = 100 base x height = 100 so, height = 10 height does not give the side of the parallelogram... height is only equal to side if the parallelogram is a rectangle or a square Insufficient Statement 2 one of the angle of the parallelogram is 45 degs. This does not say anything about sides. insufficient
combining we can use the Pythagoras theorem to find the side... so sufficient Answer C Well done buddy, here's your kudos! Enjoy Cheers! J



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Bunuel wrote: mirzohidjon wrote: I do not get this problem Ok, let's imagine that the height of the parallelogram is 10 and it's base is 10 as well. One of the angles of parallelogram is 45 degrees. That would mean, that one of the angles of the parallelogram height of the parallelogram and one of the sides of parallelogram will form right triangle. One leg of this triangle is 10, the other leg, which is part of the base of the parallelogram need to be 10 as well (Why?) Because the right triangle is an isosceles triangle with angles 45, 45 and 90 degrees respectively.
BUT, that triangle would not make sense, since the total length of the base of the parallelogram is 10, how part of the length of the parallelogram could be 10 also.
Can somebody explain the problem to me. Thank you Let parallelogram be ABCD. Base AD = 10, height BX = 10 and the angle BAD = 45 degrees. This would mean that when you draw the hight from B it will meat the base at point D (D and X will coincide). So the height will be the diagonal too. AB and CD will become hypotenuses and will be equal to \(10\sqrt{2}\). \(P=20+20\sqrt{2}\). Hope it's clear. I am unable to understand when the angle is 45 degree How X will coincide with D. Because angle is 45 degree not 90 degree. Can you please draw the Figure also. Thanks!
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honchos wrote: Bunuel wrote: mirzohidjon wrote: I do not get this problem Ok, let's imagine that the height of the parallelogram is 10 and it's base is 10 as well. One of the angles of parallelogram is 45 degrees. That would mean, that one of the angles of the parallelogram height of the parallelogram and one of the sides of parallelogram will form right triangle. One leg of this triangle is 10, the other leg, which is part of the base of the parallelogram need to be 10 as well (Why?) Because the right triangle is an isosceles triangle with angles 45, 45 and 90 degrees respectively.
BUT, that triangle would not make sense, since the total length of the base of the parallelogram is 10, how part of the length of the parallelogram could be 10 also.
Can somebody explain the problem to me. Thank you Let parallelogram be ABCD. Base AD = 10, height BX = 10 and the angle BAD = 45 degrees. This would mean that when you draw the hight from B it will meat the base at point D (D and X will coincide). So the height will be the diagonal too. AB and CD will become hypotenuses and will be equal to \(10\sqrt{2}\). \(P=20+20\sqrt{2}\). Hope it's clear. I am unable to understand when the angle is 45 degree How X will coincide with D. Because angle is 45 degree not 90 degree. Can you please draw the Figure also. Thanks! Please read the whole thread: iftheareaofaparallelogramis100whatistheperimeter80300.html#p731142
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I3igDmsu wrote: If the area of a parallelogram is 100, what is the perimeter of the parallelogram?
(1) The base of the parallelogram is 10. (2) One of the angles of the parallelogram is 45 degrees.
I thought A, because if the base is 10, the side has to be 10, because Area is 10. Therefore perimeter is 40. Regardless if this is a rhombus or not. B is insuffic, gives no details for lengths of sides.
(Maybe I am confusing what a base is? I am interpreting it as one of the sides.)
The OA is C. Not sure why, can someone please explain? In a parallelogram, the side can be different with the base. My answer is C and Perimeter = 20 + 20*sqrt(2)
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i will go with C as well.. parallelogram  2 opposite sides are equal. area = base x height
1) ok we know the base, we can find the height, 10. ok so one leg is 10, what about the other one? we need to find the hypotenuse... if the triangle is 454590, the hypotenuse has one length, but if the triangle formed is 306090, we totally different value.
A is not sufficient. Cross A and D.
2) one angle is 45 degrees. clearly this is not sufficient. B is out, and we are left with C and E.
1+2 => ok so we know the base, we know the height, which is the leg of the right triangle formed...and we know that the triangle is 454590. clearly this is sufficient to answer our question.
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Bunuel wrote: mirzohidjon wrote: Hi, Bunuel, I really appreciate your effort to help us. Finally after your explanation, I got the answer (since I imagined what kind of parallelogram the problem was talking about. But, based on what assumptions, you deduce that parallelogram needs to be the way you described (diagonal equal to height)? Attachment: The attachment PointLatticeParallelograms_1000.gif is no longer available If the area of a parallelogram is 100, what is the perimeter of the parallelogram? Given: \(Area=base*height=100\). Q: \(P=2b+2l=?\) (b  base, l  leg ) (1) The base of the parallelogram is 10 > \(base=height=10\). Infinite variations are possible. Look at the diagram (let the distance between two horizontal and vertical points be 10): all 4 parallelograms have \(base=height=10\) but they have different perimeter. Not sufficient. Side notes: \(l\geq{10}\), when \(l=10=h\) we would have the square (case #3 on the diagram) and \(P=40\) (smallest possible perimeter), maximum value of perimeter is not limited. (2) One of the angles of the parallelogram is 45 degrees. Clearly insufficient. But from this statement height BX and AX will make isosceles right triangle: \(height=BX=AX\). (1)+(2) As from 2 we have that \(height=BX=AX\) and from (1) we have that \(base=height=10\) > \(AX=base=AD=10\) > X and D coincide (case #4 on the diagram) > leg (AB) becomes hypotenuse of the isosceles right triangle with sides equal to 10 > \(AB=10\sqrt{2}\) > \(P=20+20\sqrt{2}\). Sufficient. Answer: C. Attachment: The attachment m1031.png is no longer available Hope it's clear. Bunuel/Anyone Why not A alone is sufficient being known 2 sides are 10 it means angles are also same .also as height BD is making 90 deg. means the other 2 angles are 45 deg each fig. attached) Thus making A as ans choice Thanks
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rohit8865 wrote: Bunuel wrote: mirzohidjon wrote: Hi, Bunuel, I really appreciate your effort to help us. Finally after your explanation, I got the answer (since I imagined what kind of parallelogram the problem was talking about. But, based on what assumptions, you deduce that parallelogram needs to be the way you described (diagonal equal to height)? Attachment: The attachment PointLatticeParallelograms_1000.gif is no longer available If the area of a parallelogram is 100, what is the perimeter of the parallelogram? Given: \(Area=base*height=100\). Q: \(P=2b+2l=?\) (b  base, l  leg ) (1) The base of the parallelogram is 10 > \(base=height=10\). Infinite variations are possible. Look at the diagram (let the distance between two horizontal and vertical points be 10): all 4 parallelograms have \(base=height=10\) but they have different perimeter. Not sufficient. Side notes: \(l\geq{10}\), when \(l=10=h\) we would have the square (case #3 on the diagram) and \(P=40\) (smallest possible perimeter), maximum value of perimeter is not limited. (2) One of the angles of the parallelogram is 45 degrees. Clearly insufficient. But from this statement height BX and AX will make isosceles right triangle: \(height=BX=AX\). (1)+(2) As from 2 we have that \(height=BX=AX\) and from (1) we have that \(base=height=10\) > \(AX=base=AD=10\) > X and D coincide (case #4 on the diagram) > leg (AB) becomes hypotenuse of the isosceles right triangle with sides equal to 10 > \(AB=10\sqrt{2}\) > \(P=20+20\sqrt{2}\). Sufficient. Answer: C. Attachment: The attachment m1031.png is no longer available Hope it's clear. Bunuel/Anyone Why not A alone is sufficient being known 2 sides are 10 it means angles are also same .also as height BD is making 90 deg. means the other 2 angles are 45 deg each fig. attached) Thus making A as ans choice Thanks Hi Rohit, Refer your PM.. Area of llgm is dependent on base and height.. Base is one of the side but height will be other side only if angle is 90°... With height 10, various combinations can be made...
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rohit8865 wrote: Bunuel wrote: mirzohidjon wrote: Hi, Bunuel, I really appreciate your effort to help us. Finally after your explanation, I got the answer (since I imagined what kind of parallelogram the problem was talking about. But, based on what assumptions, you deduce that parallelogram needs to be the way you described (diagonal equal to height)? Attachment: The attachment PointLatticeParallelograms_1000.gif is no longer available If the area of a parallelogram is 100, what is the perimeter of the parallelogram? Given: \(Area=base*height=100\). Q: \(P=2b+2l=?\) (b  base, l  leg ) (1) The base of the parallelogram is 10 > \(base=height=10\). Infinite variations are possible. Look at the diagram (let the distance between two horizontal and vertical points be 10): all 4 parallelograms have \(base=height=10\) but they have different perimeter. Not sufficient. Side notes: \(l\geq{10}\), when \(l=10=h\) we would have the square (case #3 on the diagram) and \(P=40\) (smallest possible perimeter), maximum value of perimeter is not limited. (2) One of the angles of the parallelogram is 45 degrees. Clearly insufficient. But from this statement height BX and AX will make isosceles right triangle: \(height=BX=AX\). (1)+(2) As from 2 we have that \(height=BX=AX\) and from (1) we have that \(base=height=10\) > \(AX=base=AD=10\) > X and D coincide (case #4 on the diagram) > leg (AB) becomes hypotenuse of the isosceles right triangle with sides equal to 10 > \(AB=10\sqrt{2}\) > \(P=20+20\sqrt{2}\). Sufficient. Answer: C. Attachment: The attachment m1031.png is no longer available Hope it's clear. Bunuel/Anyone Why not A alone is sufficient being known 2 sides are 10 it means angles are also same .also as height BD is making 90 deg. means the other 2 angles are 45 deg each fig. attached) Thus making A as ans choice Thanks Responding to a pm: Height is the length of the altitude from a vertex to the opposite side. It will be 10 in this case. But why is it necessary that it will fall on D? Look at these two figures. The perimeter in each case will be different. Attachment:
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