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Concept: The question deal with Minima/Maxima problem


Solution:-


Let there be w women


=>No of men =200-w


25% of women =0.25 w are home owners


Also, 20% of men = 0.2(200-w) are home owners


Thus 0.25w + 0.2(200-w) = 0.05w + 40 =w/20 + 40


We have to minimize this equation =>w has to be minimized


Minimum value of w for which w/20 is an integer(as number of women as homeowners cannot be a non-integer) = 20


So, at w=20, w/20 +40 =41 (option e)

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can anyone explain the Through Weighted Avg Method?


as per my knowledge Taking extremes of Homeowners of the ratio that they have given Homeowners 5:4 -TOTAL OF 9

Taking extremes 36-------x--------45

and avg comes around 40.5 so we can solve as above to get the answer to Option (E)- 41

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can anyone explain the Through Weighted Avg Method?


as per my knowledge Taking extremes of Homeowners of the ratio that they have given Homeowners 5:4 -TOTAL OF 9

Taking extremes 36-------x--------45

and avg comes around 40.5 so we can solve as above to get the answer to Option (E)- 41

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You're right that we can solve this using a weighted average, kskumar!
Your approach isn't quite right, though. They have not given us a ratio of 5:4.
They have given us a ratio of 1:5 (where 5 ratio units represents the total number of men in the association) and a ratio of 1:4 (where 4 ratio units represent the total number of women in the association). Adding the 5 ratio units and the 4 ratio units is where you went wrong. These ratios may have different scale factors, so you can't add them. What you could do, though, if you wanted to, is infer that the number of men is some positive multiple of 5 and the number of women is some positive multiple of 4.

Now, as for solving this problem using weighted average thinking: if all 200 people were men, there would be 40 homeowners, and if all 200 people were women, there would be 50 homeowners. Therefore, the actual number of homeowners must be one of the integers inside that range, exclusive (why exclusive? because the question is nonsensical if there are only members of one gender). Now that we know the number of owners is at least 41 and at most 49, we can answer the question with ease.
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In a 200 member association consisting of men and women, exactly 20% of men and exactly 25 % women are homeowners. What is the least number of members who are homeowners?

A) 49
B) 47
c) 45
D) 43
E) 41

Please explain

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Let the # of women be \(w\), then # of men will be \(200-w\). We want to minimize \(0.25w+0.2(200-w)\) --> \(0.25w+0.2(200-w)=0.05w+40=\frac{w}{20}+40\), so we should minimize \(w\), but also we should make sure that \(\frac{w}{20}+40\) remains an integer (as it represent # of people). Min value of \(w\) for which w/20 is an integer is for \(w=20\) --> \(\frac{w}{20}+40=1+40=41\).

Answer: E.

Or: as there are bigger percentage of homeowner women then we should minimize # of women, but we should ensure that \(\frac{1}{4}*w\) and \(\frac{1}{5}*(200-w)\) are integers. So \(w\) should be min multiple of 4 for which \(200-w\) is a multiple of 5 (basically w should be min positive multiple of 20), which turns out to be for \(w=20\).

Hope it's clear.
­Bunuel what if you took women to be 200 - m? I don't get the same answer
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In a 200 member association consisting of men and women, exactly 20% of men and exactly 25 % women are homeowners. What is the least number of members who are homeowners?

A) 49
B) 47
c) 45
D) 43
E) 41

Please explain

Thanks
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Let the # of women be \(w\), then # of men will be \(200-w\). We want to minimize \(0.25w+0.2(200-w)\) --> \(0.25w+0.2(200-w)=0.05w+40=\frac{w}{20}+40\), so we should minimize \(w\), but also we should make sure that \(\frac{w}{20}+40\) remains an integer (as it represent # of people). Min value of \(w\) for which w/20 is an integer is for \(w=20\) --> \(\frac{w}{20}+40=1+40=41\).

Answer: E.

Or: as there are bigger percentage of homeowner women then we should minimize # of women, but we should ensure that \(\frac{1}{4}*w\) and \(\frac{1}{5}*(200-w)\) are integers. So \(w\) should be min multiple of 4 for which \(200-w\) is a multiple of 5 (basically w should be min positive multiple of 20), which turns out to be for \(w=20\).

Hope it's clear.
­Bunuel what if you took women to be 200 - m? I don't get the same answer
\(0.25(200-m)+0.2m=50 - \frac{ m}{20}\).

To minimize the above, we should maximize m. The maximum value of m, for which m/20 is an integer is m =180. In this case:

\(50 - \frac{180}{20} = 41\).




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In a 200 member association consisting of men and women, exactly 20% of men and exactly 25 % women are homeowners. What is the least number of members who are homeowners?

A. 49
B. 47
C. 45
D. 43
E. 41

There are many ways to solve this question. One of the most efficient would be to use integer solutions method since number of men and women have to be integers.

Method 1:

To minimize the number of homeowners, we must make the number of men as large as possible since only 20% of those are homeowners. Of the rest, 25% will be homeowners.

Since 20% of men are homeowners, it means the total number of men is a multiple of 5 (because 1/5 of men are homeowners which must be an integer). So say number of men = 5a
Since 25% of women are homeowners, it means the total number of women is a multiple of 4 (because 1/4 of women are homeowners which must be an integer). So say number of women = 4b

5a + 4b = 200

To minimize the number of homeowners, we must make the 5a group (number of men) as large as possible.

The first and simplest solution would be b = 0, a = 40. But this means there are no women and we must have men and women.
So next possible solution is b = 5, a = 36.

This minimizes the number of homeowners as 36 + 5 = 41

Answer (E)

Integer solutions to equations in 2 variables are discussed here: https://anaprep.com/algebra-integer-sol ... variables/

Method 2:

You can do the same thing orally also. To minimize the number of homeowners, we must make the number of men as large as possible since only 20% of those are homeowners. Of the rest, 25% will be homeowners.
So we start with taking all 200 as men. But we must have some women too so we check whether 4 women are possible. No because that gives us 196 men which is not divisible by 5. Then check whether 8 women are possible. No.
Since number of men must be divisible by 5, we can have at most 180 men which gives us 20 women.

Number of homeowners = 180/4 + 20/5 = 41
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out of 200
20 percent men = 40
25 percent women = 50
90 Homeowners
So for least use weighed balance 40 Least 41 50
Hence 41 ( Also overlapping sets concept can be used)
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sir, I took the opposite values for men and women. Men as X and women as 200-x, and I got 49. Where did I go wrong?
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Let the # of women be \(w\), then # of men will be \(200-w\). We want to minimize \(0.25w+0.2(200-w)\) --> \(0.25w+0.2(200-w)=0.05w+40=\frac{w}{20}+40\), so we should minimize \(w\), but also we should make sure that \(\frac{w}{20}+40\) remains an integer (as it represent # of people). Min value of \(w\) for which w/20 is an integer is for \(w=20\) --> \(\frac{w}{20}+40=1+40=41\).

Answer: E.

Or: as there are bigger percentage of homeowner women then we should minimize # of women, but we should ensure that \(\frac{1}{4}*w\) and \(\frac{1}{5}*(200-w)\) are integers. So \(w\) should be min multiple of 4 for which \(200-w\) is a multiple of 5 (basically w should be min positive multiple of 20), which turns out to be for \(w=20\).

Hope it's clear.
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sir, I took the opposite values for men and women. Men as X and women as 200-x, and I got 49. Where did I go wrong?


Please read the whole thread. Your doubt has already been addressed there!
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Think of it this way.

There are x men (hehe not X-men xD), and 200-x women.

Now, we have 20% of men are homeonwers (hw) and 25% of women. To get a minimum sum of hw, we need to keep the party with higher percentage of ownership (25% of women) as low as possible.

How do we find out the least possible value for women? We are dealing with integers, since we can't really assume people to be 0.5.

If we have 25% women as homeowners, that means even if only 1 woman is a homeowner, we'd need 4 women in the total group (member association).

Which gives us 200-x = 4 and thus, x = 196.

Now we do simple algebra to get the sum of homeowners:

no. of women homeowners + no. of men homeowners = 25% of 4 + 20% of 196 = 1 + 39.2 (=40 since people can't be cut :silent:) = 1+40= 41.

The answer is E.

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In a 200 member association consisting of men and women, exactly 20% of men and exactly 25 % women are homeowners. What is the least number of members who are homeowners?

A. 49
B. 47
C. 45
D. 43
E. 41
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I solved the question the same way as quite a few people shared here, with one additional step:

i. We are able to separate 20% of the men; i.e. we can separate 1/5th of the men - so, the number of men must be a multiple of 5.
ii. We are able to separate 25% of the women; i.e. we can separate 1/4th of the women - so, the number of women must be a multiple of 4.
iii. We want to find the least number of members to are homeowners. Since within women a greater proportion are homeowners, I want to minimize the number of women in the group.

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iv. Next: work backward from 200, checking each pair to find one that fits while keeping the above constraints in mind. e.g.
a. w: 4, m: 196 —> doesn’t work because 196 is not a multiple of 5.
b. w: 8, m: 192 —> doesn’t work because 192 is not a multiple of 5.
c. w: 12, m: 188 —> doesn’t work because 188 is not a multiple of 5.
d. w: 16, m: 184 —> doesn’t work because 184 is not a multiple of 5.
e. w: 20, m: 180 —> work because 180 is a multiple of 5. Fits!
]

iv.
Instead of this, we could also realize that

[a multiple of 5] + [a multiple of 4] = 200.

200 is a multiple of both 4 and 5.

Since the number of men needs to be a multiple of 5, and the total number of members is a multiple of 5 (200), the number of women must also be a multiple of 5.

Since the number of women needs to be a multiple of 4, and the total number of members is a multiple of 4, the number of men must also be a multiple of 4.

Thus, the number of men and of women must both be multiple of 4 and 5 - i.e. of 20.

In order to minimize the number of women, I’ll take smallest non-zero multiple of women: 20. And then correspondingly we’d have 180 men.



And now, 25% of 20 + 20% of 180 would give us the answer.
25% of 20 = 5
20% of 180 = 2 x 10% of 180 = 2 x 18 = 36

5 + 36 =41. Answer (E)
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