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In the country of Bedenia, officials have recently implemented a new healthcare initiative to reduce dangerous wait times at emergency rooms in the country’s hospitals.

This initiative increases the number of available emergency nurses and doctors in urban settings:
    *scholarships and no-interest loans are being offered to prospective students in these fields if they work in major city hospitals, *relocation packages to urban centers are being offered for current emergency practitioners, and
    *immigration rules are being changed to enable foreign emergency doctors and nurses to more easily move to Bedenia’s major cities.

Which of the following would be most important to determine in assessing whether the initiative will be successful?

A. What percentage of current nurses and doctors work in emergency medicine........% cannot determine the success of the initiative.

C. Whether a career in emergency medicine pays substantially less than other types of medicine.............pay is not important here. even if it is low still jobless people may prefer it.

E. Whether many foreign doctors and nurses are currently not allowed to enter Bedenia...........OFS

But im stuck why B is correct and D is incorrect.

D. Whether wait times could be reduced by means other than increasing the number of available nurses and doctors............If the real issue is something else and we can solve it by other way easily than initiative, then result of initiative may no be a success.

B. Which hospitals in Bedenia have dangerous wait times in their emergency rooms.............what does which refer to? wait time need not be cured with availablity of doctors. We have no hint of urban/rural hospitals here.
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New post 21 Sep 2017, 17:50
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Hi amanarora87,

You're taking the right general approach, but your application didn't quite work for either answer choice.

D: You said that a Yes would tear down the argument, but why? Our job is to assess the effectiveness of the plan, not to determine whether it's the only possibility. If I argue that I can drive to work, it doesn't weaken my argument to say that I could also take the train.

B: B says we want to find out which hospitals have dangerous wait times. This isn't a Yes/No consideration, so the words Yes and No don't mean anything here. This answer choice gets at one of the author's assumptions: putting more doctors in urban emergency rooms will reduce dangerous wait times. What if the dangerous wait times are in rural hospitals? So our analysis should look more like this:

Urban hospitals. This would strengthen the argument, because that's where the plan is routing more doctors.
Rural hospitals. This would weaken the argument, because we are encouraging doctors to go someplace where there are not dangerous wait times. If anything, this might increase the dangerous wait times in rural settings.


I agree with you DmitryFarber. But i've found a second missing point in the initiative that could be assessed by the letter A: "What percentage of current nurses and doctors work in emergency medicine"

Here is my reasoning: The initiative wants to increase nurses and doctors in emergency rooms. What if 100% of the doctors and nurses are already there? The initiative would fail, right?

Why letter B is stronger than A?
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In the country of Bedenia, officials have recently implemented a new healthcare initiative to reduce dangerous wait times at emergency rooms in the country’s hospitals. This initiative increases the number of available emergency nurses and doctors in urban settings: scholarships and no-interest loans are being offered to prospective students in these fields if they work in major city hospitals, relocation packages to urban centers are being offered for current emergency practitioners, and immigration rules are being changed to enable foreign emergency doctors and nurses to more easily move to Bedenia’s major cities.

Which of the following would be most important to determine in assessing whether the initiative will be successful?

A. What percentage of current nurses and doctors work in emergency medicine

knowing % will not help us : Incorrect

B. Which hospitals in Bedenia have dangerous wait times in their emergency rooms

Identifying hospitals with dangerous wait times will help to improve the conditions there and make initiative successful : Correct

C. Whether a career in emergency medicine pays substantially less than other types of medicine

This is shell & game : familiar looking idea yet different; "emergency medicine" is Out of scope

D. Whether wait times could be reduced by means other than increasing the number of available nurses and doctors
this is out of scope

E. Whether many foreign doctors and nurses are currently not allowed to enter Bedenia

domestic doctors and nurses are also available : Incorrect
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In the country of Bedenia, officials have recently implemented a new healthcare initiative to reduce dangerous wait times at emergency rooms in the country’s hospitals. This initiative increases the number of available emergency nurses and doctors in urban settings: scholarships and no-interest loans are being offered to prospective students in these fields if they work in major city hospitals, relocation packages to urban centers are being offered for current emergency practitioners, and immigration rules are being changed to enable foreign emergency doctors and nurses to more easily move to Bedenia’s major cities.

Which of the following would be most important to determine in assessing whether the initiative will be successful?

A) What percentage of current nurses and doctors work in emergency medicine

B) Which hospitals in Bedenia have dangerous wait times in their emergency rooms

C) Whether a career in emergency medicine pays substantially less than other types of medicine

D) Whether wait times could be reduced by means other than increasing the number of available nurses and doctors

E) Whether many foreign doctors and nurses are currently not allowed to enter Bedenia

Originally posted by alexmonnin on 26 Feb 2018, 08:38.
Last edited by Vyshak on 26 Feb 2018, 08:40, edited 1 time in total.
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This argument contains some clever wordplay that is easy to overlook. The goal of the initiative is to reduce dangerous wait times at emergency rooms in the country’s hospitals, but the initiative relates entirely to urban hospitals. What if almost all of the dangerous wait times occurred in rural or suburban hospitals? To determine whether this initiative will be successful, you need to know which hospitals have dangerous wait times (are they urban hospitals or not), so answer choice (B) is correct. The percentage of current nurses and doctors working in emergency medicine and pay rates for emergency medicine are not relevant to the success of this initiative so (A) and (C) are wrong. (D) is a trickier incorrect answer choice. This initiative as described is about getting more nurses and doctors available in emergency rooms. Whether or not there might be other ways to decrease wait times is not relevant to this initiative – you need information that helps assess whether this initiative will work, not whether other ones are possible. (E) also does not matter in assessing this initiative – while the goal is to encourage foreign doctors and nurses to come to urban hospitals, it is not important to know how many in general have been unable to enter the country. Answer is (B).
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In the country of Bedenia, officials have recently implemented a new healthcare initiative to reduce dangerous wait times at emergency rooms in the country’s hospitals. This initiative increases the number of available emergency nurses and doctors in urban settings: scholarships and no-interest loans are being offered to prospective students in these fields if they work in major city hospitals, relocation packages to urban centers are being offered for current emergency practitioners, and immigration rules are being changed to enable foreign emergency doctors and nurses to more easily move to Bedenia’s major cities.

Which of the following would be most important to determine in assessing whether the initiative will be successful?

A. What percentage of current nurses and doctors work in emergency medicine

B. Which hospitals in Bedenia have dangerous wait times in their emergency rooms

C. Whether a career in emergency medicine pays substantially less than other types of medicine

D. Whether wait times could be reduced by means other than increasing the number of available nurses and doctors

E. Whether many foreign doctors and nurses are currently not allowed to enter Bedenia


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I chose "C"!

Why is C wrong!

In my reckoning, Choice "C" shows that despite the fact that a lot of efforts are put into luring people to work in emergency medical field what if the field pays substantially less than any other medical field?

Wont it make the affect the conclusion" to reduce dangerous wait times"?

I agree B is also a clever choice but whats wrong with "C"?
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Why is option A wrong??
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I think C could be a possible answer. The initiative is succeed or not also depends on if the concerned people are interested enough to relocate so or not...And if their salary is too low in the emergency medicine, they may be not interested in moving. From the argument, we can not say whether the benefit offered by the initiative can beat the salary or not.
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I cannot understand why option A is wrong:

My understanding- Assumption is bringing more doctor and nurses would decrease the wait time.

Potential weaker - What if the number of nurses and doctor is not the cause of waiting? (i.e already high proportion of them are already working in emergency rooms)

Potential strengthener - low proportion of them are working => bringing more will help.
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I cannot understand why option A is wrong:

My understanding- Assumption is bringing more doctor and nurses would decrease the wait time.

Potential weaker - What if the number of nurses and doctor is not the cause of waiting? (i.e already high proportion of them are already working in emergency rooms)

Potential strengthener - low proportion of them are working => bringing more will help.


Let me try:

The main motive behind the initiative is to reduce dangerous wait times in hospitals across the country
There will few hospitals in the urban area and few in the villages.

Further the argument states that "This initiative increases the number of available emergency nurses and doctors in urban settings"

We can have a condition where there are very few hospitals in the urban area and lot more are concentrated in the villages.
Thus even if we implement a plan to increase the doctors, the increase may not affect the effectiveness in urban area where we do not know the existing situation of doctors.

In addition to that, the number of doctors and nurses in villages may remain the same or increase or decrease. We have absolutely no clue about it.
Hence, we have to make way too many assumptions to finally decide whether the situation in country will improve or not!
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thelosthippie wrote:
In the country of Bedenia, officials have recently implemented a new healthcare initiative to reduce dangerous wait times at emergency rooms in the country’s hospitals. This initiative increases the number of available emergency nurses and doctors in urban settings: scholarships and no-interest loans are being offered to prospective students in these fields if they work in major city hospitals, relocation packages to urban centers are being offered for current emergency practitioners, and immigration rules are being changed to enable foreign emergency doctors and nurses to more easily move to Bedenia’s major cities.

Which of the following would be most important to determine in assessing whether the initiative will be successful?

A. What percentage of current nurses and doctors work in emergency medicine

B. Which hospitals in Bedenia have dangerous wait times in their emergency rooms

C. Whether a career in emergency medicine pays substantially less than other types of medicine

D. Whether wait times could be reduced by means other than increasing the number of available nurses and doctors

E. Whether many foreign doctors and nurses are currently not allowed to enter Bedenia


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I chose "C"!

Why is C wrong!

In my reckoning, Choice "C" shows that despite the fact that a lot of efforts are put into luring people to work in emergency medical field what if the field pays substantially less than any other medical field?

Wont it make the affect the conclusion" to reduce dangerous wait times"?

I agree B is also a clever choice but whats wrong with "C"?


I have the same question in mind. Can someone answer pls?
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I am still not convinced with the explanation provided for Option B.
The increase in the number of emergency doctors and nurses to any hospital would make initiative successful. But if there is any other means which is impacting the wait times then the initiate would fail.

Can you please advise how to approach such type of questions.
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New post 24 Nov 2019, 08:21
I have two doubt here
1)When already given in question that all the initiative are intended to increase doctor and nurses in urban setting then why we need to find out Which hospitals in Bedenia have dangerous wait times in their emergency rooms
2)What percentage of current nurses and doctors work in emergency medicine
If percentage of current nurses and doctors in emergency medicine are on high side then it might be possible that there are other ways to reduce waiting time and increasing nurses and doctor number will not be helpfull
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